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Should be a wild four years.

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They're really trying to push the "Trump is a dying old man" narrative, while fellating Newsom.
It's years too early and completely retarded, but they seem to think it's a winning strategy, even after spending 4 years propping up a literally senile retard.
They did this all the time the first time around. Remember when Trump used two hands to drink out of a water bottle? Once walked a bit slowly down a ramp, like he was checking his footing? It's wishcasting. Sure, Biden could barely function and fell over a bunch, but he was a perfect picture of health, until he wasn't.
 
Since we don't seem to have any left-wing people on the forum that can express themselves without seething I think I'll try a stab at it.

I am becoming increasingly worried about the amount of power being concentrated in the Executive and within one political party (Republicans). Without a second viable political party to vote for, it means that the one party ruling the country can start doing whatever it wants. We already see this with how many EOs Trump signs and the various things that are obviously illegal trying to be pushed through. Things such as trying to punish people for exercising their 1st amendment rights--such as supporting BDS or other anti-Israel platforms.

Dem Congress is obviously incompetent (who knew bringing retards, niggers and faggots would cause your party to become incompetent?). So what's left? Only the judicial, where activist judges have been trying to wrangle Trumps' various EOs, to varying levels of success. But honestly they're also incompetent and I think as these cases make their way through the courts, sometimes up to the Supreme Court, they will, mostly, go Trump's way.

So 2026 comes around. Is there anyone on the right that would vote Democrat? I know I wouldn't. With the voting registrations being cleaned up and the ability to cheat being mitigated, it doesn't seem like the Democrats will make much progress. Therefore, I believe the Republicans in 2026 will comfortably win the House and the Senate. Once this happens it'll be near impossible to prevent them from passing whatever legislation they want. Whether it be anti-free speech laws under the guise of anti-pornography, the lack of regulations against payment processors, or endless gibs for Israel, there won't be the possibility of opposition. I really wish the Democratic party would change their platform, but I honestly think it's too late.

Once Trump is out in 2028, that will be the true test. Did the swamp actually get drained? Will Democrats come back around to more common sense policies? Will Republicans cuck for Israel and start a war with Iran? Will de-regulation go too far and corporations rule supreme? Who're the 2028 candidates, are they actually decent? How did the next 3 years of deportations go, and is the American citizenry up to continue it? How're things looking with the fent/drug crisis? Is India a superpooer yet? Is Canada a failed state yet? Is Mexico still a narcostate? Some of these might be easier to predict than others...
These are the kind of left-leaning posts that I do actually agree with in full, and are far more worthwhile reading and engaging with than the manchild, anti-social screeds vomited by Hulk Homo and all the other trannies/pajeets in the TES thread.

As it stands, it's already been a one-party switcheroo since the early 2000s. Congress has already delegated most if not all power to the executive, hence why Dubya, Obama, Trump and Biden's handlers have issued out so many EOs and seldom any of them have been recanted.

Judicial is basically on it's death throes, and the death blow won't even be due to whatever the second Trump administration has planned. This entire so-called “justice” system in the USA is fraudulent and illegitimate, if the persecution against Shiloh Hendrix didn't make that obvious enough. People are going to begin seeking vigilante justice considering how broken and ridiculous the system has gotten. You should have no faith in this system as a normal person.

I've talked about it several times before, and Democrats still have no plan to get the regular left-wingers back under the neoliberal plantation. The bleeding was well underway before the Palestine genocide began, but it went on overdrive afterwards. Orange Man and the right-wing becoming 'mainstream' are the least of the DNC's problems. The catastrophe that has been the entire Biden presidency and the whole 'democrat socialist' astroturfing is still fresh in the minds of all normalfags and isn't likely to go away for several more years, if ever. They can't do the 2018"centrism" snake oil script again, because everybody knows that's how Democrats inflicted upon the population the likes of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (who was being relentlessly touted as the "Future of the Democrat party"), Jasmine Crockett, David Hogg, Ilhan Omar (who denounces the core population of the USA on a regualar basis), just to name a few.

I do likewise think the Republicans will increase their House and Senate margins. Given how extraordinarily unpopular the Democrat/Neoliberal brand is, its likely the GOP can attain numbers not dissimilar to the Franklin Roosevelt-era New Deal coalition. Whether we like it or not, MAGA chuds are the ones controlling the party; the GOP still could've had a 'moderate' wing that wasn't overly invested in social issues, but they opted to go all in with "muh principles" faggotry and Hillary/Biden/Kamala dicksucking for the past decade and thereby surrendered all legitemacy to the Trump camp.

Will the Swamp get drained? If it gets drained of Neoliberal Satanists, that's good enough for me and all other normal people. If you mean "will the Swamp cease to exist altogether," that's simply not going to happen. It's not a discussion that I feel like getting into now, but all and any illusion of "Democracy" anywhere will always come with an elite group at the top, and that's never going to change, short of reverting back to monarchism and "autocracies."

Whatever the case, I couldn't care less if the John Brennan and George Soros types get replaced with Kash Patel and Elon Musk types. Mind you, this isn't a matter of "oh the elites are too right-wing/letf-wing." Recall that the Brennan and Soros types, and by extension the post-JFK Democrat party, are dyed-in-the-wool believers of neoliberalism. And as the platitute of recepits on this thread and beyond have demonstrated, neoliberals are monomaniacally obsessed with moralization campaigns.

If one wants to get super in-depth in how truly fucked the Democrats are, consider how they are painfully self-unaware to the point that they don't realize or care that said campaigns are rapidly waning in effectiveness for a number of different reasons.

For one, shit has been getting real for a long while now. People have real problems, and when you have real problems, goofy moralization stuff becomes much less appealing, regardless of whether you are right or left leaning. Neolibs are UTTERLY OBSESSED with going around and signaling to everyone how they're such "good people" because they arbitrarily produced and support the latest moralization campaign is a luxury for people who have literally no real problems at all.

Along with that, the fact that we’re all watching Palestinians be slaughtered on an industrial scale by the Jews, and seeing Ukrainians being fed to the meat-grinder ALSO on an industrial scale, and both of those things are broadly and aggressively supported by the same Neolibs who push these various moralization campaigns, shows how dumb and decadent this post-modernist landscape is.

“We have to have an endless war in the Ukraine because of democracy values or whatever but also we need to slaughter tens of thousands of children and elderly in Palestine, also because of democracy or something."

That's not even getting into the whole evil of trannydom and especially child trannies, which the modern Democrat party still fiercely promotes and tries to enforce at all costs.

Sure enough, 2028 is shaping up to be the real test, and not just politically for either party. At the end of the day, whoever is in change of the executive is little more than an overglorified empire manager. That much was obvious with Biden and his handlers, with predictably disastrous results. It remains to be seem if Trump will accept the demise of the empire and focus strictly on domestic affairs.
 
It remains to be seem if Trump will accept the demise of the empire and focus strictly on domestic affairs.
What makes you think Trump wants to abandon the US Empire? If anything he is trying to bring it back to its former glory by reminding all our allies why we are the sole superpower by aggressively renegotiating our trade agreements to be in our favor, force closed markets to accept American products, strengthen our army, and use the US influence to end conflicts before the escalate. Trump is trying to trade Globohomo for Pax Americana 2 and I am all for that.
 
It remains to be seem if Trump will accept the demise of the empire and focus strictly on domestic affairs.
You had me until this. The usual crowd has been predicting the end of the empire since the 60's or 70's, and they've been wrong every time. The empire isn't going away any time soon. And that's a good thing, it really is - the likely alternatives wouldn't be much fun at all.
 
What makes you think Trump wants to abandon the US Empire? If anything he is trying to bring it back to its former glory by reminding all our allies why we are the sole superpower by aggressively renegotiating our trade agreements to be in our favor, force closed markets to accept American products, strengthen our army, and use the US influence to end conflicts before the escalate. Trump is trying to trade Globohomo for Pax Americana 2 and I am all for that.
I think Trump's focus for the GAE is to change it to a more traditional structure, where we actually benefit directly from our vassals, instead of just endlessly funding them. This is actually pretty tough, since part of using the Petrodollar to maintain dominance has led to us gutting our own industry.
 
The US is a declining power, that much is obvious. What makes it hard are finding the potential replacements:

China is doing hot for now, but a birth rate hovering around 1 with an average age above 40 doesn't bode well for anyone's future.

India and Latin America are both sub-replacement and have jack shit to show for it, you don't build great civilizations when the asperational goal is to leave.

The middle east either has bad demographics (Turkey and Iran), or is utterly unable to resist Israeli power and will never consolidate.

Africa may win the demographic battle by default, but, being generous, they'll need centuries to whip themselves into a functioning civilization.

Who "Wins" the 21st century won't be decided by who grows, but by who can manage their decline the best. Better yet, who can reverse it.
 
What makes you think Trump wants to abandon the US Empire? If anything he is trying to bring it back to its former glory by reminding all our allies why we are the sole superpower by aggressively renegotiating our trade agreements to be in our favor, force closed markets to accept American products, strengthen our army, and use the US influence to end conflicts before the escalate. Trump is trying to trade Globohomo for Pax Americana 2 and I am all for that.
I think his geographical vision is of a USA (American-ideological regime) that mirrors Russia, a massive quasi-empire that runs from latitude X (top of Mexico?) to the north pole, from Alaska to Greenland (or Iceland, and ideally the UK too).

In about 1990 we probably could have made it happen, just by saying "Fuck all y'all it's all ours eat shit." But now, globohomo (American in origin, but not in intention) is too strong. So Trump's feints toward expanding US land seem like goofy old-man confusion.
 
You had me until this. The usual crowd has been predicting the end of the empire since the 60's or 70's, and they've been wrong every time. The empire isn't going away any time soon. And that's a good thing, it really is - the likely alternatives wouldn't be much fun at all.
Republic to Empire instead of skipping to Byzantine. Biden might've been the "collapse" stage.
US is the worst Empire
(laughs in Aztec)
 
Been going on for hours. Lots of leftists are really on edge now being ghouls about it.
Thanks for the clarification. I just check twitter every few hours, and clicking the tags didn't reveal much useful/trustworthy info.

edit: ngl it scared the bejesus out of me, seeing all those tags trending at the same time. Usually the left can only get one, max two, retarded tags trending high enough to show up on my page.
 
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uhh
This is just twitter being highly retarded, right?
Greater than 0% chance given the Trump's sudden absence and Vance's comments about his readiness.

I think it's more likely that it's a more-or-less routine medical emergency for someone of Trump's age. With the level of treatment available to him, it's very unlikely that something is going to outright kill him.
 
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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...uneral-honors-to-capitol-rioter-ashli-babbitt

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. government is offering military funeral honors for Ashli Babbitt, the rioter who was killed at 35 by an officer in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol.

Babbitt was a U.S. Air Force veteran from California who was shot dead wearing a Trump campaign flag wrapped around her shoulders while attempting to climb through the broken window of a barricaded door leading to the Speaker’s Lobby inside the Capitol.

READ MORE: Ashli Babbitt, Jan. 6 insurrectionist portrayed as martyr by some, had violent past

Offering military honors to one of the Capitol rioters is part of President Donald Trump’s attempts to rewrite that chapter after the 2020 election as a patriotic stand, given he still denies he lost that election. Babbitt has gained martyr status among Republicans, and the Trump administration agreed to pay just under $5 million to settle a wrongful-death lawsuit that her family filed over her shooting.

Matthew Lohmeier, an under secretary of the Air Force, said on X that the decision was “long overdue,” and shared a post from a conservative legal group that was advocating for Babbitt’s family. The group, Judicial Watch, said the family had requested military honors from former President Joe Biden’s administration and had been denied.

READ MORE: More FBI leaders forced out, including ex-director who resisted turning over Jan. 6 agents’ names

In a statement, a U.S. Air Force spokesperson said that “after reviewing the circumstances” of Babbitt’s death, military funeral honors were offered to the family. Babbitt was a senior airman.

The post shared by Lohmeier included a link to a letter the Air Force under secretary wrote to Babbitt’s family, inviting them to meet him at the Pentagon.

“After reviewing the circumstances of Ashli’s death, and considering the information that has come forward since then, I am persuaded that the previous determination was incorrect,” the Aug. 15 letter read.
 
the only thing really uniting Dems right now is "trump bad" and without him they'll start attacking each other instantly
Moment Trump is gone it'll be "Vance Even Badder", nostalgically remembering the eccentric Trump compared with the dangerous mecha-Hilter Vance who fucked a couch but in all seriousness we can't let him get the nuclear codes.
 
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