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Five “non-citizens” CAUGHT using hidden cameras and earpieces to cheat on Commercial Divers License exams. Officials say this is happening "all over the country."

These are the people who end up driving 18-wheelers and can’t read traffic signs

 
And they come to American colleges which test you online with no camera and apply an "honor system."
They think taking advantage of trusting people makes them "smart" and better than the dupes. No, it just puts you in the same category as used car salesmen: universally hated.
 
They think taking advantage of trusting people makes them "smart" and better than the dupes. No, it just puts you in the same category as used car salesmen: universally hated.
I scambait sometimes so I've seen it a lot. There's an ego protecting delusion they have that they are predators rather than parasites.
 
Is there any actual proof that only 271k jews were killed during the Holocaust instead of 6 million?
Red Cross report in the middle of the war when they were not allowed to visit certain camps and they were heavily monitored during the camps that they could visit said 271k. Idiots think this is a number from a neutral source.
 
Since we don't seem to have any left-wing people on the forum that can express themselves without seething I think I'll try a stab at it.

I am becoming increasingly worried about the amount of power being concentrated in the Executive and within one political party (Republicans). Without a second viable political party to vote for, it means that the one party ruling the country can start doing whatever it wants. We already see this with how many EOs Trump signs and the various things that are obviously illegal trying to be pushed through. Things such as trying to punish people for exercising their 1st amendment rights--such as supporting BDS or other anti-Israel platforms.

Dem Congress is obviously incompetent (who knew bringing retards, niggers and faggots would cause your party to become incompetent?). So what's left? Only the judicial, where activist judges have been trying to wrangle Trumps' various EOs, to varying levels of success. But honestly they're also incompetent and I think as these cases make their way through the courts, sometimes up to the Supreme Court, they will, mostly, go Trump's way.

So 2026 comes around. Is there anyone on the right that would vote Democrat? I know I wouldn't. With the voting registrations being cleaned up and the ability to cheat being mitigated, it doesn't seem like the Democrats will make much progress. Therefore, I believe the Republicans in 2026 will comfortably win the House and the Senate. Once this happens it'll be near impossible to prevent them from passing whatever legislation they want. Whether it be anti-free speech laws under the guise of anti-pornography, the lack of regulations against payment processors, or endless gibs for Israel, there won't be the possibility of opposition. I really wish the Democratic party would change their platform, but I honestly think it's too late.

Once Trump is out in 2028, that will be the true test. Did the swamp actually get drained? Will Democrats come back around to more common sense policies? Will Republicans cuck for Israel and start a war with Iran? Will de-regulation go too far and corporations rule supreme? Who're the 2028 candidates, are they actually decent? How did the next 3 years of deportations go, and is the American citizenry up to continue it? How're things looking with the fent/drug crisis? Is India a superpooer yet? Is Canada a failed state yet? Is Mexico still a narcostate? Some of these might be easier to predict than others...
 
Once Trump is out in 2028, that will be the true test. Did the swamp actually get drained? Will Democrats come back around to more common sense policies? Will Republicans cuck for Israel and start a war with Iran? Will de-regulation go too far and corporations rule supreme?
Will we have an election in 2028? Most likely yes of course, but with the amount of conflict we regularly see now between the federal government and states/cities that openly defy them and form networks with each other? I wouldn't be absolutely floored if we get Civil War II by then. Especially if it looks like Democrats can't win and can't cheat.
 
Since we don't seem to have any left-wing people on the forum that can express themselves without seething I think I'll try a stab at it.
Good luck

I am becoming increasingly worried about the amount of power being concentrated in the Executive and within one political party (Republicans). Without a second viable political party to vote for, it means that the one party ruling the country can start doing whatever it wants. We already see this with how many EOs Trump signs and the various things that are obviously illegal trying to be pushed through. Things such as trying to punish people for exercising their 1st amendment rights--such as supporting BDS or other anti-Israel platforms.
In a two party system if one party claims victory, barring any kind of tyrannical takeover what eventually happens is either a new party coalesces together (The society's leftists don't just vanish because the democrat party collapses) or the newly dominant party splits apart once they no longer have an external competitor keeping what is effectively an alliance of convenience together. People will always find things to disagree over.

What should really worry you is the democrats NOT collapsing with society's growing distrust for leftist politics in mind. People on this forum and elsewhere for instance genuinely believe if the democrats are ever allowed to take power again it would be an existential threat to them and it's not like they have no reason to think that. There is no debating that mindset. Once people have it in their heads that they need to destroy you for their own preservation that's a wrap. Civil war is all but assured.
 
Will we have an election in 2028? Most likely yes of course, but with the amount of conflict we regularly see now between the federal government and states/cities that openly defy them and form networks with each other? I wouldn't be absolutely floored if we get Civil War II by then. Especially if it looks like Democrats can't win and can't cheat.
I think the Dems will cheat in 2028. Not only that, but I think they will do so openly, like Liberal states having 800% voter turn out all for Newsom levels of cheating. Not so they can win, but to "protest" Trump and create a legal cluster fuck so huge it will stall and break our election system. If they did a stunt like that how will we fix it? Gavin and anyone in power responsible won't see jail time, we can't simply not count their votes because the courts will not allow the disenfranchisement of voters, and we can't shift though the good and bad votes to get an accurate number. Our only options are to accept the result or redo the election with Trump's federal government policing it which will play into their fascism stick. It will also help cover up their decades upon decades of cheating by blaming the sudden drop of liberal votes in the retry election on Trump suppressing them.
 
What should really worry you is the democrats NOT collapsing with society's growing distrust for leftist politics in mind. People on this forum and elsewhere for instance genuinely believe if the democrats are ever allowed to take power again it would be an existential threat to them and it's not like they have no reason to think that.

My post mortem is that the dems allowed the theater kids to run things, while clipping the wings of younger members in the party.

The became a calcified party that used tools, of what I like to call softpower, the NGO money was used by the party to buy loyalty and create obligations.

They wanted to manufacture concesisous using social media and influencers, along with brain rot trannys and anti fa as shock troops.

Trump is breaking the NGO money, The people that cordinate and craft the narative dont have job security.

Worse the Message,Narative, wokeness what ever you wanna call it. Doesnt address problems.

Why cant Gavin Newsom come out and say that mr Signh should not have had a CDL? Why cant he say "Were gonna do a review of our CDL holders and revolk any of them that cant meet a basic standard?

That should not be hard or even a politically loaded thing to do. He could even do that while acussing trump of making it political and grandstanding when the state of CA can address the issue with out him.

Why can mayors say "crime is bad" and that Some of their DA are clearly making in hindsight bad calls. When you release someone that goes on to offend again.

The Dems just need to move closer to trump on Fixing issues and they can peel off voters no problem.

The Dems can go to trannys and say you dont need to be in womens sports and we need gatekeeping or else the nazi trump supporters will kill you. What are the trannys gonna do?

The party cant do this, the best thing for the party is if every dem over the age of 60 fell over dead, same for the GOP as well.
 
Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) is expected to not seek re-election. So that's another RINO down.

Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) is expected to forgo running for a third term in the Senate, a GOP operative confirmed to The Hill — leaving an open seat that could become hotly contested next year.
Rep. Ashley Hinson (R-Iowa), a former reporter-turned-lawmaker who’s served in Congress since 2021, is likely best positioned to replace her, the GOP operative said.
CBS News was the first to report that Ernst would not be running for reelection, with an announcement expected on Thursday. The Hill has reached out to Ernst’s team for comment.
The nonpartisan election handicapper Cook Political Report had rated her seat as “likely Republican” before news of her expected retirement broke. Despite an expensive and challenging reelection bid in 2020, she beat her Democratic challenger Theresa Greenfield by over six points.
Several Democrats are vying for Ernst’s seat, including Des Moines School Board chair Jackie Norris, former Knoxville Chamber of Commerce executive director Nathan Sage, state Rep. Josh Turek and state Sen. Zach Wahls.
Ernst, a military veteran and sexual assault survivor, was a pivotal vote earlier this year in helping confirm Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who faced allegations of excessive drinking and sexual assault. Hegseth said that an incident in 2017, in which the future Defense secretary was accused of sexual assault, was consensual. He was not charged with any wrongdoing.
The Iowa Republican also faced some criticism during a town hall meeting in May in which she said “Well, we’re all going to die,” after an attendee said people would “die” amid a conversation around cuts to social safety programs.
Ernst unapologetically doubled down on her comments, saying in a video later, “I made an incorrect assumption that everyone in the auditorium understood that, yes, we are all going to perish from this earth. So I apologize, and I’m really, really glad that I did not have to bring up the subject of the tooth fairy as well.”
Ernst is no stranger to winning tough races. Besides her 2020 reelection bid, she won a contested primary for a first term in 2014, which included U.S. ambassador to NATO Matthew Whitaker. One of her best known-ads during that election cycle was one in which she said “Washington’s full of big spenders. Let’s make ‘em squeal.”
(Article)
 
I think the Dems will cheat in 2028. Not only that, but I think they will do so openly, like Liberal states having 800% voter turn out all for Newsom levels of cheating. Not so they can win, but to "protest" Trump and create a legal cluster fuck so huge it will stall and break our election system. If they did a stunt like that how will we fix it? Gavin and anyone in power responsible won't see jail time, we can't simply not count their votes because the courts will not allow the disenfranchisement of voters, and we can't shift though the good and bad votes to get an accurate number. Our only options are to accept the result or redo the election with Trump's federal government policing it which will play into their fascism stick. It will also help cover up their decades upon decades of cheating by blaming the sudden drop of liberal votes in the retry election on Trump suppressing them.
The fat black women currently in charge of the Dems are too incompetent to pull anything like this off imo, especially with USAID money being pulled. What I am worried about is an American version of the Days of Lead. It’s way more likely that Antifa continues trying to ambush feds (and failing miserably).
 
Since we don't seem to have any left-wing people on the forum that can express themselves without seething I think I'll try a stab at it.

I am becoming increasingly worried about the amount of power being concentrated in the Executive and within one political party (Republicans). Without a second viable political party to vote for, it means that the one party ruling the country can start doing whatever it wants. We already see this with how many EOs Trump signs and the various things that are obviously illegal trying to be pushed through. Things such as trying to punish people for exercising their 1st amendment rights--such as supporting BDS or other anti-Israel platforms.

Dem Congress is obviously incompetent (who knew bringing retards, niggers and faggots would cause your party to become incompetent?). So what's left? Only the judicial, where activist judges have been trying to wrangle Trumps' various EOs, to varying levels of success. But honestly they're also incompetent and I think as these cases make their way through the courts, sometimes up to the Supreme Court, they will, mostly, go Trump's way.

So 2026 comes around. Is there anyone on the right that would vote Democrat? I know I wouldn't. With the voting registrations being cleaned up and the ability to cheat being mitigated, it doesn't seem like the Democrats will make much progress. Therefore, I believe the Republicans in 2026 will comfortably win the House and the Senate. Once this happens it'll be near impossible to prevent them from passing whatever legislation they want. Whether it be anti-free speech laws under the guise of anti-pornography, the lack of regulations against payment processors, or endless gibs for Israel, there won't be the possibility of opposition. I really wish the Democratic party would change their platform, but I honestly think it's too late.

Once Trump is out in 2028, that will be the true test. Did the swamp actually get drained? Will Democrats come back around to more common sense policies? Will Republicans cuck for Israel and start a war with Iran? Will de-regulation go too far and corporations rule supreme? Who're the 2028 candidates, are they actually decent? How did the next 3 years of deportations go, and is the American citizenry up to continue it? How're things looking with the fent/drug crisis? Is India a superpooer yet? Is Canada a failed state yet? Is Mexico still a narcostate? Some of these might be easier to predict than others...
Thank you for raising some arguments and not going "ORANGE MAN BAD FASICST". The issue is that have is that I that Leftist politics revolve around intersectionality as well as the looting of our countries. It feels like a hostile empire here and considering how the Left has treated Americans and Europeans it feels that I have righteous reasons to do so. Throwing a girl in prison for using weapons to defend herself and her family from a foreign rapist being an example of one of those policies, same with the H1B pajeet importation and this view is filtering to normies. Also, there is a rift in the replubican party between the old uniparty and MAGA.
 
Will we have an election in 2028? Most likely yes of course, but with the amount of conflict we regularly see now between the federal government and states/cities that openly defy them and form networks with each other? I wouldn't be absolutely floored if we get Civil War II by then. Especially if it looks like Democrats can't win and can't cheat.
I think the worst we'd have is a few cities and their suburbs going into insurrection, a complete shitshow, but nothing disastrous. A proper civil war requires both sides to be somewhat evenly matched, which usually means a chunk of the military breaks off to join them. I'm not fully up to snuff on the military's current political leaning, but I'm pretty sure it's still leaning Republican, especially after Trump removed the troons and a lot of that bs.

I am becoming increasingly worried about the amount of power being concentrated in the Executive and within one political party (Republicans). Without a second viable political party to vote for, it means that the one party ruling the country can start doing whatever it wants. We already see this with how many EOs Trump signs and the various things that are obviously illegal trying to be pushed through. Things such as trying to punish people for exercising their 1st amendment rights--such as supporting BDS or other anti-Israel platforms.
I get the sentiment, but that's all just same as it ever was, this time it's red instead of bipartisan is all.
Dem Congress is obviously incompetent (who knew bringing retards, niggers and faggots would cause your party to become incompetent?). So what's left? Only the judicial, where activist judges have been trying to wrangle Trumps' various EOs, to varying levels of success. But honestly they're also incompetent and I think as these cases make their way through the courts, sometimes up to the Supreme Court, they will, mostly, go Trump's way.
The activist judges are blatantly retarded, yes. There are a few Trump EOs that have a good chance of being struck down, but instead the judges decided that they'll expend all their good will and political capital attacking every single one of them simultaneously, casting doubt on their impartiality. If there's a big enough spotlight on that, it's going to be a very nice talking point for the next few elections, further cementing Republican dominance.
So 2026 comes around. Is there anyone on the right that would vote Democrat? I know I wouldn't. With the voting registrations being cleaned up and the ability to cheat being mitigated, it doesn't seem like the Democrats will make much progress. Therefore, I believe the Republicans in 2026 will comfortably win the House and the Senate. Once this happens it'll be near impossible to prevent them from passing whatever legislation they want. Whether it be anti-free speech laws under the guise of anti-pornography, the lack of regulations against payment processors, or endless gibs for Israel, there won't be the possibility of opposition. I really wish the Democratic party would change their platform, but I honestly think it's too late.
Possibly, but there's also the chance that it just becomes like every other full sweep of the government, where very little happens and "principled objectors" of the GOP stand up and shoot everything consequential and partisan down while Congress shuffles around trying its best to drop the ball at every opportunity. In my opinion, that is the test to see if the swamp has been drained. Trump's so far only cut off a few major inlets to the swamp and started a bit of draining, but the swamp's big, and it will take a very long time to evaporate away on its own, time Trump doesn't have. If Dems win 2028, I fully expect a return to clown world and a reinstatement of USAID and its evil ilk, reverting a lot of progress, but as you said, their current ridiculousness will probably make winning hard.
 
Tell this jew to stfu. He says trump should call for a summit of mayors who's cities are so called crime ridden.
No! This is a great idea! You can't have a public flogging without getting everyone together!
Most likely yes of course, but with the amount of conflict we regularly see now between the federal government and states/cities that openly defy them and form networks with each other? I wouldn't be absolutely floored if we get Civil War II by then. Especially if it looks like Democrats can't win and can't cheat.
Don't get your hopes up. Assuming nothing major happens between now and then, there's not a conceivable cheat that could be done that won't get flagged immediately thanks to the 2% rule. (About 2% of the vote in any election is "tolerably" fraudulent, which is to say margin of error be a bitch like that sometimes.) There's no "getting away with it," too much would need to be done and they'd have to cop to literally stealing the election box just to get there. At that point the jig is up, they can all eat shit, and the spirit of the law will trump whatever letter anyone wants to appeal to, TDD achieved.
I am becoming increasingly worried about the amount of power being concentrated in the Executive and within one political party (Republicans). Without a second viable political party to vote for, it means that the one party ruling the country can start doing whatever it wants. We already see this with how many EOs Trump signs and the various things that are obviously illegal trying to be pushed through. Things such as trying to punish people for exercising their 1st amendment rights--such as supporting BDS or other anti-Israel platforms.
So, right off the bat, we've listed something that has actually voided protections. ON THE FACE OF THINGS, I would agree with you, however thanks to a lot of turds in the punch bowl, BDS and being anti-Israeli is actually coinciding with a lot of action beyond speech, which is not protected. This is a problem the left has in spades and it really needs nipping in the bud. They let their TDS run wild which leads to giving Trump legal excuses to bitch smack some hoes which leads to "evidence" of TDS being correct, which leads to TDS running wild, which leads to giving Trump legal excuses to bitch smack some hoes... cycle repeats. In this case, the left got caught protecting and facilitating unironic terrorism in a bunch of colleges country-wide, yeah Trump has cause to put the kibosh on organizing if there's a legitimate threat of criminal action. There is crow, and the longer it goes uneaten by the left on this, the worse it will taste. And before any muh-both-sides talk commences, we just had two cases of troons getting pinched for wanting to go bloviate their politics with bullets while the right wing of politics is notoriously less wed to collective identification and thus justifiable generalization of members into that collective. It's not that there's no rabid righties out there, just go look a the Nick Fuentes thread, it's that said fagaloon glows so hard it can be seen from space and people aren't afraid to call him out for it while not being the only one who gets decried for trying to push political violence. Almost like no cow-tipping is a great rule for discussion forums, no?
So what's left? Only the judicial, where activist judges have been trying to wrangle Trumps' various EOs, to varying levels of success. But honestly they're also incompetent and I think as these cases make their way through the courts, sometimes up to the Supreme Court, they will, mostly, go Trump's way.
Stop letting TDS run the party's brain and let the Orange Man fail unaided. Christ, ya'll had a golden opportunity with the Epstein files and here comes Ro Khanna looking to profit off it and prove that the Dems don't give a rat's ass about any kids and fuck the optics up so badly we're back to the only person who can even claim to care about any kids in this situation is Trump!
So 2026 comes around. Is there anyone on the right that would vote Democrat?
No. The left is so toxic they'll prefer doing the Family Guy ipecac challenge over drinking cyanide.
With the voting registrations being cleaned up and the ability to cheat being mitigated, it doesn't seem like the Democrats will make much progress. Therefore, I believe the Republicans in 2026 will comfortably win the House and the Senate. Once this happens it'll be near impossible to prevent them from passing whatever legislation they want.
And the Dems, if they wanted to learn, would realize, "Oh holy crap we're pariahs and should change that,

2024 was the cold water to the face after passing out drunk outside. There will not be another for them.
Whether it be anti-free speech laws under the guise of anti-pornography, the lack of regulations against payment processors, or endless gibs for Israel, there won't be the possibility of opposition. I really wish the Democratic party would change their platform, but I honestly think it's too late.
It's very inconvenient then that Trump has actually been taking more pro-internet freedom stances as of late. There's that E/O directly targeting payment processor fuckery and he's currently raw-dogging Europe for their censorious bullshit.

I know about that Mississippi law over anti-porn that Bluesky threw a bitch-fit over, but this is a state law and states are allowed to be retarded to a degree in their laws. Call me when the Republicans are going after VPNs and not shitting themselves in the process.
Once Trump is out in 2028, that will be the true test. Did the swamp actually get drained?
It's a long process but definite somethings are happening. Cautious optimism.
Will Democrats come back around to more common sense policies?
No. If Kamala getting creamed didn't do it, nothing will.
Will Republicans cuck for Israel and start a war with Iran?
No. The US is war weary and the Republicans will fracture to cater before committing to a draft.
Will de-regulation go too far and corporations rule supreme?
A leftie complaining about this is hilarious given big business loves you more than the free market.
Who're the 2028 candidates, are they actually decent?
JD Vance is looking heir apparent, so assuming nothing happens the Republicans have one.
How did the next 3 years of deportations go, and is the American citizenry up to continue it?
Good and yes.
How're things looking with the fent/drug crisis?
Cartel just got busted for millions and the US pissed off Mexico by saying they don't get a piece.
Is India a superpooer yet?
No but yes.
Is Canada a failed state yet?
Already failed.
Is Mexico still a narcostate?
Probably.

I don't think you have that good of a mapping of the other side of politics to be frank. Credit where it's due, you didn't resort to insults or "MUH FOOSCHISM!!!" grade arguments, but it is fair to highlight bad mental mapping of the opposition where it lies.
My post mortem is that the dems allowed the theater kids to run things, while clipping the wings of younger members in the party.
One issue with this theory. The theater kids are the younger members of the party.

My postmortem is that the far left managed to succeed hard enough to destroy themselves while the establishment got vapor locked at the upstarts instead of slamming the door on them hard and making it clear they are a serf voting bloc. The far left got enough autonomy to break out of partisan voting but never had enough organic support beyond establishment astroturfing to sustain it. So when people started catching on that the Bernie Bros, AOSimps, and Breadtube cock-riders all had no meaningful power, you had to completely back-over-knee break the party no matter what happened. There is no resolving the far left and neoliberals anymore.

The far left, back in 2008 we'll say, they were like the parsley garnish on a steak dinner. You wouldn't eat it per se, but you wouldn't complain about it either. But over time, there was more garnish and less steak until Biden's term, not his candidacy but his term, at which point it was a parsley salad with a side of parsley being sold as a prime rib steak to <<GENERIC DEMOCRAT VOTER HERE>>. TDS might have glued the party together even after that, but in comes Biden having the senior moment of all senior moments live on camera in front of everyone, and it's just undeniable at that point. The party is fucked, Kamala getting put in was slapdash, she got caught twice trying to copy Trump's homework where she did try putting forth a plan, and the demoralization was just complete. Kamala was too far left for the moderates and too moderate for the far left, cue historical failure in the polls. There might be less poo in India than the drawers of the DNC on election night 2024.
 
I'm not fully up to snuff on the military's current political leaning, but I'm pretty sure it's still leaning Republican, especially after Trump removed the troons and a lot of that bs.
I'm not sure either. I know the "door kickers" are famously like >98% right-wing, and combat arms in general are majority white which implies certain things. But it seems like all the generals are Deep State creatures who spent all of Trump's first term lying to him, backstabbing him, and dragging their feet. And as for irregular militias there are many Democrat supporters radicalized these days who openly hope for violence now that they're not getting their way for a couple years. And many foreign powers would be willing to support the anti-American faction in an American civil conflict.
 
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