2025 US and Venezuela Conflict - Operation Just Cause 2: 2 Just 2 Cause

Insights from someone who actually lives there

1) It's most likely a bluff, Mr Cheeto flexing to get something out of Maduro. We're already jaded and tired of others bluffing just to end up in a nothingburger so I'll assume this is no different.

2) Maduro is still shitting his pants, you can see it if you watch any recent speech, the fat bastard looks hungover and it's obvious he hasn't slept for days.

3) The "4 gorillion militiamen" are a fucking joke. We call them "miliancianos" (literally "militiOLDmen") because they're old farts, and they only "joined" the militias because they'd have lost any welfare benefits they depend on otherwise. They're not well trained, I'd say most aren't even armed, if anything their function is snitching on "dissidents" or whatever.

4) Even the "regular" army isn't that well trained. I've met people who served and they're NOT well fed, not well paid either. Their only "job" is getting bribes and shooting unarmed protesters. As for the generals, they're nepo... Not babies, rotting carcasses, old, fatass guys who got there by being friends of Chavez.

5) Maduro isn't popular, everyone hates him except for the asskissers (usually old Karens who got a bit of power and snitch on people, and also distribute welfare packages). Chavismo is just a big cartel and they're ready to stab eachothers back the moment they can see any kind of gain. The 50 mil reward won't be enough, they make more than that with drugs, I'm guessing they expect some lower ranking official who constantly gets screwed up by the higher ups to snitch or whatever, but it's unlikely because there's a lot of fear and paranoia among the lower ranked guys (and like half of them are just regular thugs with a military uniform)

6) Is an military intervention likely? Not really, I'm sure Maduro will chicken out and Trump will chicken out too. But if it were to happen we already voted for a new president back in 2024, but the election was obviously rigged and if you dared to complain, you'd get shot. But I don't see it happening simply because Maduro isn't really a threat, remember when he was sperging about invading Guyana? And it ended up being a nothingburger, just like everything else in this rotten piece of land.

7) Wagner is allegedly present in Venezuela. They and the FAES (death squads) are the only ones who might fight back but even then it's unlikely they'll win.
 
Brazil is increasing security on their border with Venezuela:
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Venezuelan opposition media reports that Venezuelan Counter-Intelligence launched an Operation against the entire cabinet of Venezuelan Dictator Nicolás Maduro and reportedly detained one of his ministers for investigations into "alleged treason and conspiracy", with more detentions are expected in the coming hours.

This happens after Maduro started hinting that there were traitors among the Venezuelan leadership, including his inner circle after USA raised the rewards for his head.
 
If America does get into a real proxy war with Venezuela. I am waiting for MAGA Israel dick-rider e-celebs like Razorfist to justify Trump getting America involved in a new war instead of releasing the Epstein files. He blames ESG and DEI policies on China framing Jews in Hollywood and defends Trump backing off his own tariffs against China as 4D chess. Knowing Trump he will fuck up and straighten Venezuela like he already did with China economically.
 
Calling this a conflict is generous, fuckers have less military force than most cartels and are going against a military that is basically unbeatable in conventional conflicts. Falkland war 2.0 but with the good English speakers
Conflict in the thread title gets more post reactions which means more Kiwi Koins for me.
 
With all that oil do they even have a military?
They bought a large amount of semi-modern gear from Russia between 2009 and 2015, including T-72B3s, S-300s, and Su-30s among other things. Though they recently had to start buying spare parts for their older AMX-30s due to a combination of limited funds and Russia prioritizing parts for its own T-72s. They also have a number of F-16s, but only three remain airworthy because the United States has blocked the sale of parts since 2005.
 
How many of our own ships will niggers and girl bosses destroy this time?

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How many of our own planes will girl bosses shot down this time?

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These militias are armed with Mosin-Nagant M91/30s that Russia gave them a decade ago. Here's what it looks like:
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The Soviets stopped producing them in 1945. The more well trained units will be armed with FALs from the 1960s and FN-49s from the 1950s. All three of these guns use different ammo (7.62x54r, 7.62x51mm, 7x57mm respectively). The actual army is armed with AK-103s manufactured in country. The AK-103 uses 7.62x39mm. So between the militias and actual army you've got four different rifle cartridges, two different magazines for the AK and FAL, and two different stripper clips for the M91/30 and FN-49. For a modern, well trained military this would be a headache but doable. For a narco state that hasn't fought a real war in decades? They're so fucked. If we do invade we'll be dealing with guerilla warfare bullshit for years but the government will collapse in a matter of weeks.
Yeah see it's that "gureilla warfare bullshit" that will become another forever war/forever occupation. IEDs in Caracas, all provided courtesy of however many thousands of mortar-to-152mm arty shells that Venezuela can't/doesn't keep track of not to mention Nicaragua and Cuba (and, shit, probably China and maybe even India) trying to smuggle in. Plus who knows how many disaffected Ukr drone operators pissed that Trump didn't nuke Moscow on Inauguration day lending a hand (wouldn't be the first time for that sort of thing, either; after the Good Friday accords there were more than a few Paddys who showed up in Central America helping out their Revolutionary Brothers, by which I mean narcoterrorists).

I have no doubt that tonight if the US wanted to they could cornhole each and every member of Venezuela's high command and government from Maduro down to the town dogcatcher, but that ain't it, is it?

It's the 600,000 people living in the favelas and hills who suck commie dick while not helping get fent into the US who'll be the problem.

But, I will say, unlike Operation Desert Nam that lasted what, 20 or so years with no real conclusion other than Biden getting Buttfucked on national TV with a withdraw from Afghanistan that looked like the most fevered of dreams about the collapse of South Vietnam, what's boiling up from So. America IS an honest to God threat to the US unlike dying for some vague foreign policy of "they hate our freedumb" that was cowritten by the AIPAC to keep young American men and women dying in desert shitholes full of people who hate us.

So I dunno. Maybe history will look back on this and go "That one time the US was so pissed that they actually DID stop the smuggling in of drugs from South America" or maybe it's just some Tom Clancy bullshit that'll blow up in our faces in 4-7 years.
 
If America does get into a real proxy war with Venezuela. I am waiting for MAGA Israel dick-rider e-celebs like Razorfist to justify Trump getting America involved in a new war instead of releasing the Epstein files. He blames ESG and DEI policies on China framing Jews in Hollywood and defends Trump backing off his own tariffs against China as 4D chess. Knowing Trump he will fuck up and straighten Venezuela like he already did with China economically.
Venezuela is our backyard quite literally and has been exporting a shit ton of problems to America. Not necessarily at the point justifying a war, but it is an issue, and has been an issue for two decades now.
 
Yeah see it's that "gureilla warfare bullshit" that will become another forever war/forever occupation.
Bold of you to assume Colectivos are ideological fanatics like the Taliban or Iraqis.
They're more likely to become gang bangers instead of insurgents.
 
Ya know I kinda get it. We've done so many overseas wars, its time to do something a little different, after all, variety is the spice of life.

In all seriousness though whats with all the retards in this thread carrying on with the anti American sentiment? Guess the word "conflict" brings all the mouth breathers out of the woodwork.
 
To the guy who mentioned the 600k favela guys:

One of the largest anti-Maduro protests after last year's fraud was from the favelas. Even they hate Maduro at this point (although their reasons are, actually, a lack of gibs. Maduro abandoned many of the more hardline socialist policies years ago, and that's why we have food again and now the issue is many can't afford it because our economy is still shit), but the protest was squashed by a combo of death squads, snitches and state-sponsored gangbangers.

So I doubt they'd rally behind Maduro if things go down, right now it's convenient for them but if they were in danger by supporting Maduro they'd likely backstab him because, again, Chavismo is just a bunch of traitorous snakes kept together by drug money and violence.
 
Perhaps the US just does not have a stellar track record with "conflict" post-WW2.
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The littoral combat ship USS Minneapolis-Saint Paul (LCS 21), Freedom variant, arrived at the Guantánamo naval base in Cuba to take part in the United States Government’s operational offensive against drug trafficking in the Caribbean and Venezuela.



In a video statement, under a very desperate mood, following the start of the US military pressure against the Venezuelan Regime, Chavista dictator of Venezuela, Nicolás Maduro calls on all "People's Movements and Rebel Peoples" in USA, European Union and Latin America to mobilize in defense of "Venezuelan Right for Sovereignty and Self-Determination", as well calling on the "National Unity" between Venezuelans.

MAGA bros, it's Joever. Maduro is rallying the leftists in America to rise up and overthrow the illegitimate Trump regime. BRICS will send their massive armies to occupy the US. Voice your support for BRICS in this thread or you WILL be reported for wrongthink.
 
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