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No, it isn't. Marriage is and always was simultaneously a religious and legally recognized institution that came with benefits.
The legal and religious aspects of marriage or totally different things. In the legal sense marriage confers the rights of a spouse onto the other party. Next-of-kin status, medical visitation and care decisions, etc. That's what the OG gays were fighting for. It got twisted by the opposition to rile up their Bible-thumper base for fundraising purposes by suggesting your church would be forced to perform fabulous gay wedding ceremonies. Not the same thing.

Any two people should be allowed to enter into a legal contract with one another.
 
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I don't think there's any slur some swarthoid could come up with that would ever genuinely offend me as a white person. Most of their attempts come across as desperate seething or are outright hilarious. Terms like "mayo monkey" just make me giggle like an idiot.

Back when I was in the Navy, I was in a bar in Japan, and there was a Japanese guy that had some sort of hateboner for American servicemembers, and he was yelling at me, and he kept repeatedly calling me some sort of slur word in Japanese.

I asked the bartender what he was calling me, and the bartender translated "butter stinker". Apparently, we burgers all stink like butter because of our dairy-rich diets.

I reckoned that was the most hilarious thing I'd ever heard, and I laughed like a mental patient.

I went back to my ship after that, and I told everyone about "butter stinker", and we went around the ship calling each other butter stinker for months. Hysterical, and it never got old.

Good times. Good times.
 
Two people should be allowed to enter into a legal contract with one another.
They were, it was called Domestic Partnerships. They were the same as marriage legally but the gays didn't want that because they're obsessed with Christianity and debasing it, same reason they took the rainbow as a symbol. They're antagonistic and when you give them what they want they say "no, not like that, you also have to ruin that thing that's important to you."

"Marriage is just a contract" is a sad worldview and the base cause of a lot of societal decline.
 
Again i do not think trump has thought this through.Yes feds are going through the streets.... to do what exactly? Even when you remove the homeless, where will they go? The crimers just have to not commit crime until the feds leave, and then they can go right back to criming afterwards.

So what exactly does this achieve.
The homeless in DC aren't people down on their luck. They're all psycho junkies so they all have a record to get locked up like the youthers.
 
"Marriage is just a contract" is a sad worldview and the base cause of a lot of societal decline.
Anyone with such a worldview knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. It takes a beautiful exchange in which two people promise to share the rest of their lives with each other, and reduces it to a calculated transactional relationship.

There's nothing romantic, sexy, or even appealing to treating a marriage like you would a mortgage.
 
Two people should be allowed to enter into a legal contract with one another.
Even assuming arguendo that Gay marriage should be a legally enforceable contract (which is a big assumption, because states have broad powers to make certain contracts illegal as against public policy) such a contract would not be constitutionally protected (ignoring the niche contact clause cases, which aren’t at issue here), and Obergefell is a still an awful decision that needs to be overturned.
The latter is particularly true, since as it is simply an unworkable decision who’s reasoning is faulty at best, and isn’t even all that clear if it’s based off substantive due process, the EPC, or both. Justice Kennedy was an awful jurist, and Obergefell is his pessimus opus. The sooner it’s overturned, the better.
 
such a contract would not be constitutionally protected
It could be if Lochner were still good law. And from a neutral perspective, either substantive due process is a thing and it covers liberty of contract, or it's a made up frankenstein legal doctrine and doesn't exist at all. You can't have it both ways.
 
It could be if Lochner were still good law. And from a neutral perspective, either substantive due process is a thing and it covers liberty of contract, or it's a made up frankenstein legal doctrine and doesn't exist at all. You can't have it both ways.
Agreed, but the Court has never had much interest in making Substantive Due Process make sense.
There’s also an interesting, if not correct, argument that the P&I clause might cover contracts if properly interpreted, but nobody wants to revisit the Slaughter House Cases either.
 
The homeless in DC aren't people down on their luck. They're all psycho junkies so they all have a record to get locked up like the youthers.
This is something I think a lot of people miss when it comes to discussing the Homeless problem. IMO, there's 4 demographics of homeless.

Yes, there are people who are genuinely down on their luck, but it's a minority compared to both people who are mentally unwell/addicts, and people who chose to be homeless for one reason or another. People who are down on their luck aren't the ones who are living under overpasses and sitting outside of McDonalds all day asking for $10 every other hour.

There are people who actually "make a living" off of panhandling and they make more in a day than some minimum wage workers do in a week. There's been studies/interviews/ whatever about how people will essentially "dress up" like a bum, make money, then call a friend to drive them back to their upper-middle class suburban home.

There are of course the druggies and mentally ill. If you're sympathetic you can argue that they are "poor victims" of circumstance, but they seem to be "poor victims" who doesn't want help, and no one wants to help.

Lastly, there are actually people who just enjoy the "nomadic" lifestyle. Yes, they're still a burden on taxpayers, but it for the most part those types generally stay to themselves.

Of the four groups, I only feel sympathy towards the "down on your luck" types, and I'm fairly indifferent to the "nomad" types. That said however, those two groups, I'd wager, only make up about 5% of the homeless population.
 
This is something I think a lot of people miss when it comes to discussing the Homeless problem. IMO, there's 4 demographics of homeless.

Yes, there are people who are genuinely down on their luck, but it's a minority compared to both people who are mentally unwell/addicts, and people who chose to be homeless for one reason or another. People who are down on their luck aren't the ones who are living under overpasses and sitting outside of McDonalds all day asking for $10 every other hour.

There are people who actually "make a living" off of panhandling and they make more in a day than some minimum wage workers do in a week. There's been studies/interviews/ whatever about how people will essentially "dress up" like a bum, make money, then call a friend to drive them back to their upper-middle class suburban home.

There are of course the druggies and mentally ill. If you're sympathetic you can argue that they are "poor victims" of circumstance, but they seem to be "poor victims" who doesn't want help, and no one wants to help.

Lastly, there are actually people who just enjoy the "nomadic" lifestyle. Yes, they're still a burden on taxpayers, but it for the most part those types generally stay to themselves.

Of the four groups, I only feel sympathy towards the "down on your luck" types, and I'm fairly indifferent to the "nomad" types. That said however, those two groups, I'd wager, only make up about 5% of the homeless population.
I think people have this perception that all homeless are the down on their luck or nomad types but due to decades of social programming you are not allowed to bring up the fact that most homeless are druggies.
 
Agreed, but the Court has never had much interest in making Substantive Due Process make sense.
There’s also an interesting, if not correct, argument that the P&I clause might cover contracts if properly interpreted, but nobody wants to revisit the Slaughter House Cases either.
I think the liberal judiciary just hates the Privileges and Immunities clause. What convinced me of this is Tennessee v. Lane, which was an ADA case written by Stevens about disabled people being able to get into the courthouse. He contorted himself into more knots than a pretzel to get to the conclusion that there's a fundamental right to access courts, even though one of the few privileges and immunities confirmed by the Slaughter House Cases was access to the courts. The opinion could have been two paragraphs total, but Stevens goes out of his way to purposefully not discuss that precedent and instead write pages of substantive due process gobbledygook. I can't make sense of it. The only explanation is that they want to avoid any discussion of privileges and immunities even when the slight P/I precedent remaining perfectly applies to the case at hand.
 
I think people have this perception that all homeless are the down on their luck or nomad types but due to decades of social programming you are not allowed to bring up the fact that most homeless are druggies.
It's honestly insane anyone has that perception because the nomads tend to have a van or something and don't bother people, and the unlucky ones usually don't stay homeless for long since they're trying to improve their lives.

Zero sympathy for druggies or professional bums.
 
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