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The idea isn't that the whole world will be more peaceful if America stayed out of everyone's business as much as America itself will be more peaceful and more importantly, America would be more healthy and rich if we stayed out of foreign wars and affairs. It's a very simple concept.
Can you name a time when America actually stayed out of foreign affairs? This is an ahistorical view that's pretending that American involvement in the wider world is a new thing. The Barbary wars, the war of 1812, the Spanish American war, the Mexican American war, etc

Now ask yourself why someone who is heavily involved with America's enemies wants you to think that America was always isolationist until recently and that the best thing for America is to let their enemies do whatever they want.
 
Why does supporting a journalist that is funded by a half Iranian half Pakistani who makes content that whitewashes third world regimes make someone MAGA? Tucker expressed support for Mamdani in the NYC mayoral election, something directly at odds with Trump's policy.
Uh, wasn't Tucker outed as a CIA-affiliated Glowie awhile back? (Or at least the late & great Trump Reddit sub seemed to think he was...)

Anyway, don't take Tucker too seriously - he's just doing what all CIA funded influencer folks do and stirring the pot to make normies feel strong emotions about shithole countries.

Has Tucker spoken to anyone in Venezuela yet? Or the Ukraine? I actually wouldn't mind watching him grill Zelensky.
 
I'm scared that things will just objectively get worse for the average American. Medicaid cuts, SNAP and other things are objectively happening and even if you pull the "durr it's meant to weed out illegals" I'm still just very unsure that it will 100% full stop negate actual citizens in the prosecution. This culture war is just a front to make QoL worse and make people in charge richer
I'm scared that I might not be able to afford doing things I wanted to just because of what this admin has done. It's making me really reconsider staying in the country if I'm being honest, something I genuinely never thought of a year ago.

It's hard to remember this since most of my IRL friends are liberal yet constantly mention how powerless they are in the face of all this
You should've been scared more than two decades ago, when all this was set in motion. This right now is just the logical conclusion. You should have been scared of the oily rag on the stove, not of the fire that is now breaking out - that needs decisive action.

However, the fire is the illegal immigration straining the system. The cuts, the funding of ICE and even Thiel's Palantír, the Seeing Stone, is not the fire, but the water being dumped onto the fire to attempt to extinguish it. You're more concerned about the fire splashing your family photos - I am more concerned with saving what can still be saved of the entire house.

The rich are crafty, they always find a way to get richer no matter what you do. They are opportunists, so it is kinda naive to look at "will this make the rich richer?" the answer is always yes, no matter what you do.
 
Can you name a time when America actually stayed out of foreign affairs? This is an ahistorical view that's pretending that American involvement in the wider world is a new thing. The Barbary wars, the war of 1812, the Spanish American war, the Mexican American war, etc

Now ask yourself why someone who is heavily involved with America's enemies wants you to think that America was always isolationist until recently and that the best thing for America is to let their enemies do whatever they want.
you make these arguments like you aren’t literally an IDF soldier. You don’t have our interests in your heart anymore then the ziggers or Iranians who have Tucker in their pocket .
 
He didn’t express support for his election he just said on the Israel question during the debate he was most correct. A 5 second search disproves this you
I misremembered what he said, that's on me. The rest of my post is true and it's telling that you completely ignored it.

you make these arguments like you aren’t literally an IDF soldier. You don’t have our interests in your heart anymore then the ziggers or Iranians who have Tucker in their pocket .
I served in the IDF as a conscript as was legally required of me. I've regularly argued against US aid to Israel. When Oct 7th happened I said the US shouldn't get involved and when the Israeli-Iran war happened I said the US shouldn't get involved beyond bombing Fordow.

Why are you trying to paint me as an interventionist because I have a good understanding of US history?
 
Why are you trying to paint me as an interventionist because I have a good understanding of US history?
Way to pretend to not understand, are you just pathologically incapable of being honest? Seriously it’s so smarmy. your an interventionist because you’re a dual citizen of a country that has an interest in us being as interventionist as possible. Your not fooling anyone
 
People need to keep their eyes peeled when LA's crimes stats come out for this time of year.
The mission for the marines and national guard is rather limited, so I doubt it will have an effect. But maybe it may be expanded, especially if left wing agitators continue to provoke violence. Same with national crime rates once ICE gets their new budget and hires enough bodies to round up the illegals.

The stats may be nice to have. But especially if you're not a very wealthy person, and live in the real world with working people. This country may very quickly become a more nicer pleasant place to live then its been in decades.
 
Way to pretend to not understand, are you just pathologically incapable of being honest? Seriously it’s so smarmy. your an interventionist because you’re a dual citizen of a country that has an interest in us being as interventionist as possible. Your not fooling anyone
Dual citizenship was a mistake and Trump should EO it from being a thing.
 
Way to pretend to not understand. your an interventionist because your a dual citizen of a country that has an interest in us being as interventionist as possible. Your not fooling anyone
I literally just outlined how I don't want the US to intervene

I've regularly argued against US aid to Israel. When Oct 7th happened I said the US shouldn't get involved and when the Israeli-Iran war happened I said the US shouldn't get involved beyond bombing Fordow.

How stupid are you? Even if it was true that Israel wants the US to intervene (it's not), how does my being a citizen of a country mean that I agree with the government of that country?
 
You clearly have a terrible understanding of US history if you think that the War of 1812 and the Mexican-American War were interventionalist.
Read what I actually said. I said that there's a narrative being pushed that America was never involved in wider world affairs and try to paint the US as an island until recently. That is clearly untrue.
 
“AI! I have a pool full of fish. Most of the fish are safe for humans, but 13% of the fish are poisonous and account for 50% of all deaths near my pool. What should I do with these problematic fish.”
Saw a a video on x where a white guy asked a black guy this: "Let’s say there was 100 rats in a cage and 13 of those rats were causing 60% of the issues in the cage, what should we do with those rats?"

Black guys response: "kill those mother fucking rats"

Pretty sure that AI has the same answer.
 
Intervening in stopping our sailors from being shanghai'd by the Brits; intervening in keeping our slaves rightly picking cotton in Texas?
Apparently actually doing anything to protect your citizens and your interests is interventionism. The only way to do things is for America to completely withdraw into itself as an island and allow third world regimes to run free
 
Apparently actually doing anything to protect your citizens and your interests is interventionism. The only way to do things is for America to completely withdraw into itself as an island and allow third world regimes to run free
Don't fuck with us. It's that simple. If Iran and all the other muslim niggers bomb you, it's literally not our problem.
 
Someone chuck this IDF plant out of here.
Lmao imagine getting upset because someone said America should defend its interests and not completely withdraw from the world.

Don't fuck with us. It's that simple. If Iran and all the other muslim niggers bomb you, it's literally not our problem.
How hard is it to read? At no point did I ever advocate for American intervention. I simply pointed out that what Tucker is pushing is completely ahistorical. There's no golden age where America was an island.
 
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