🦊 Furry Melanie Herring / Purplekecleon / PK / PapayaKitty / GlitchedPuppet / Ash Hazel Woods / Floraverse - Abusive, manipulative SJW artist whose ex-husband fucked a dog and teenagers and whose current husband thinks he's trans because of a TF fetish, admitted to fucking two dogs and letting her cat eat her out

[Lion]

is she even wearing shorts in that pic?

 

[Erica]

I don't know what to tell you other than that's not how art skill works. Source: am artist.

The subjectivity of art has nothing to do with skill retention.

Glip wants to tell stories quickly more than render exquisite wall-worthy pieces. Their style fits their goal, but I am with you insofar as missing the more detailed projects.

I am also an artist. Artists are a dime a dozen here and we don't really care.

Yes, simplified styles work for quick storytelling, especially comics. This has nothing to do with the fact that she can't draw a background quickly or put those figures properly in perspective. This has nothing to do with the fact that majority of her comics are talking heads screaming at each other. This has nothing to do with the fact that her pornographic and non pornographic stories overlap, thus forcing you to read both levels of content if you want full understanding of the plot. This also has nothing to do with the fact that she really can't do lighting at all (making a pleasing color palette and lighting a scene are not the same thing).

And all of that would be fine if she wasn't such a cunt to everyone about how she's so perfect at what she does, among other things like pedophiliac content and questionably showing that off to minors. Being a good person gets you a lot farther than being a semi-popular furry artist in the art world I assure you.

So I guess tldr; I'm not really sure what you came here to accomplish, especially if you've read the entire thread.

 

[beansntoast]

I have to agree with the pk stan on one point, it's her business what her rates are. I'm sure the other professional artists in this thread don't work for minimum wage either. crappy dA artists who'll draw everything for 5$ seem to have skewed the perception here on how much a luxury product usually costs. though it's obviously hypocritical of her when she takes this much for a colored sketch but will pay others much less for an entire polished comic page, just shows how she thinks that her art is superior to others.

otherwise I find this amusing bc the stan repeats word for word absolutely everything pk uses to justify her crap whenever she's faced with critique. from "it's muh style!" to "I COULD draw better if I wanted, but I just don't want to!" to "quantity and speed > quality" to "critique = people want me to pander to their personal tastes" and back.
and as far as I know she only attended like one semester of art school. you learn jack shit in such a short amount of time. a degree doesn't mean you're a good artist anyway, I've seen people basically buy their degrees often enough, who're mediocre artists at best and then wonder why they can't land a job in the industry.

 

[DatBepisTho]

LeL posting hella old art and implying PK's one semester of art school makes her a total expert and excuses her from making noobie mistakes in her art like forgetting Neons horns in one panel, then being too lazy to draw the actual act of shrugging when she's capable and more than fond of over-exaggerated gestures and action.

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otherwise I find this amusing bc the stan repeats word for word absolutely everything pk uses to justify her crap whenever she's faced with critique.

This and the "shrug" at the end of a sentence. That made me suspicious as that's a typing quirk not many people use/have unless they're intentionally trying to be an autist after that sort of thing was pointed out a page or so ago.

 

[Questionable Ceviche]

And all of that would be fine if she wasn't such a cunt to everyone about how she's so perfect at what she does, among other things like pedophiliac content and questionably showing that off to minors. Being a good person gets you a lot farther than being a semi-popular furry artist in the art world I assure you.

This is really the meat of it. PK is a terrible human and that has nothing to do with her art or writing skills. Intentionally incomprehensible plotlines, poor characterization and development, constantly starting new projects and abandoning half-done ones, bullying people with dissenting opinions, fetishizing transgender people, not doing contest rewards from years ago, all of that shit is secondary to her awful personality. They're a symptom of a larger problem.

Nobody would care about artistic integrity or weird, permanently incomplete storylines if she wasn't going online and making fake uwu positivity passive aggressive posts every time someone accidentally misgenders an ambiguous looking character or jumping onto every SJW cause to make it about her. It would be a cute comic with cute animals. A lot of us in here, including me, are former Floraverse fans. We didn't really care about a lot of that shit until it started to get bad enough that it was getting in the way of Floraverse as a coherent sandbox environment.

 

[Loxiozzz]

ya ur rite bro

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totally baseless bait

I like how you posted this without noticing the problem. We know she's a good artist(when she puts effort into it). Her current work isn't showing that. This was said more than once. Nobody would be harsh about if her attitude wasn't complete shit. Why do you get to criticize an edit but criticizing the original artist is a sin?

Calm down and read the full thread before you blindly white knight for someone who would throw you under the bus and humiliate you just as quickly as anyone who points out her flaws.

 

[Yamyam]

Source: am artist.

No one cares.

 

[Swedish Fish]

I mean, it's up to her what she wants to draw, I guess. Like if someone legitimately wanted to pay me to draw my own characters, I'd jump right on that shit in a heartbeat lol.

But can I just point out the part where she asks for someone's twitter handle as a way to confirm a person still wants a commission? Like what the fuck is that? Get their email! Anything could happen with someone's twitter. I kind of hate everything about this commission form, it in general reeks of unprofessionalism, but that in particular stands out to me as bad.

Oh hey what a coincidence she fixed it [x]

Nitpick - I love how she couldn't be bothered to use proper capitalization on a form soliciting work. Professionalism~

Also, hadn't seen this brought up yet: [x]

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How long before she steals this design and ruins it?

EDIT: o boi, a lot happened that i did not see since notifcations sometimes just Don't. so. sorry for lateness

 

[Kled]

When you put artwork online for all to see on the internet, don't be shocked, surprised, and butthurt that people put it under a lense especially when you have a sketchy past, present, and future.

 

[Dingfield]

I couldn't care less about someone having mediocre art but having a decent personality. The thing about PK is that she loses her shit hearing even the smallest suggestion that her art is not perfect and will LITERALLY ranting about it for 6 days straight, which is what makes her a lolcow to begin with.

 

[Mocha]

Wow why is it whenever I'm gone, everything happens. I would have loved to chat with the PK stan. Oh well.

Also I'm getting very sick of the "I don't have to pander my art towards you" argument. Because it's completely false. Yes, you do. You have to do exactly that.

I feel like creative types fail to realise that it's the fans that make or break you, they're the ones lining your pockets; so you need to try your damnedest to make them happy, or no money for you. All it would take is a few people not giving PK money on patreon and she'd start to feel the sting.

That's why big companies try so hard to pander to their target audience. Because if they do, they get the money. And if PK wants flora to be a huge multimedia franchise, then that's what she has to do, And she's already doing it. SJWs are her target audience, they're the ones giving her money, so she's bending over to serve them.

Sure you don't have to completely submit to what random fan #539 specificly desires, but when you create a product, you are the servant to your fans, not the other way around.

PK and her bootlickers fail to realise who really holds the power in this scenario.

 

[toothpick]

If I'm not gonna get what I asked for, why the fuck would I commission you? Commissions don't work that way, fuckhead.

seriously, there's a difference between "I reserve the right to refuse a commission for any reason" and "I'm gonna pick which commissions interest me most! :3c"

 

[Boson]

Also what about her god awful logic (re: trans characters ina universe with no binary) and even worse story telling? Her chapters and characters are always whatever flavor of the month she's feeling and the stories never finish or seem cohesive.

 

[BananaBoner]

This is like walking into a break room and seeing someone brought a cake... but everyone else already ate it. Ah, but you can still lick the stale bits off the tray...!

I don't like all the points you made, but you did make some valid ones, I'll work to fix these issues in future edits/artworks

This is such a A+ mature answer from this kid and makes PK/Eevee/random troll look even more of a douchebag. Not that they weren't one already, screaming like an angry autist to a minor.

"i don't know how to debate these points and this person also goes against the echo chamber...yeah they're probably pk lol better post low-effort memes to put them in their place"

You should stay, buddy boy. You might actually notice people get put on their asses for reaching all the time and lots of us have differing opinions on details and shit. But you're right; this is an echo chamber... of people who think PK is in many ways a piece of shit. Those who disagree usually don't come here or, like you lol, try to defend them with shitty points and reeeeeing. Which we laugh at. Honestly, anyone looking to change our minds on the fact that PK deserves this thread would have to bring a ridiculous amount of evidence on the table, with at least a 400 pages of text accompanying it, and we all know there's no one quite that... special. :autism:

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I'm joking. We all know who.

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New here? Well, it's Eevee.

I can't even muster the energy to jack off sometimes

But you wrote several posts here. Should we be honored that you saw ranting here as a better use of your time than masturbating? Or should we apologize for killing your boner?

Also, I have a question for you since you brought this up yourself but there's a minor present so:

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Were you jacking off to PK's weird monsterporn?? Please, I need to know. This is definitely for science.

I don't know what to tell you other than that's not how art skill works. Source: am artist.

OH MY GOD Well THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING! Wait...

I am also an artist. Artists are a dime a dozen here and we don't really care.

Now now, don't undersell your expertise here. We all know being An Artist gives you absolute knowledge and makes your opinions objectively true. Now we each need to throw a hissyfit and powerlevel about our level of education, the age when we first managed to hit a paper instead of the floor with a colored crayon and how many hours we practice daily. Also, our follower count on DeviantArt or FurAffinity.

 

[D.Va]

New here? Well, it's Eevee.

Doubt that tbh, either PK or another close buddy. I don't think I've ever seen Eevee write like an illiterate or fly off the handle like PK does. And he did spend that time last night tweeting about autism.

 

[pissyshitty]

You keep claiming...PK's art is god's gift to humanity.
[...]

PK has also failed at telling "quick stories" then. Because she keeps dropping stories half-way through to re-do other projects, or make a game, or just do another comic because she's obsessed with new characters. She doesn't know how to write and when her drawing has become shittier to go with the lacking writing it is all around painful.

1) I literally didn't. I said they're capable of more detailed and elaborate pieces, that's all.

2) I'm not saying they're the best story teller ever. I'm also confused and annoyed by the project hopping and I lost most interest in trying to stay in the loop on that a while ago. I'm saying that for what they intend, the quick, unpolished work makes sense.

Now she's churning out sloppy sketches as commissions! People give her money and she still doesn't put the work in. That's unacceptable.

Depends on the commissioner. I wouldn't pay for it, and neither would you, because we don't value glip enough as an individual, or their style, to pay for their service. But to a lot of their fans, it is worth it, or else they wouldn't jump at every chance to buy commissions. It's sort of like concert tickets. I think it's outrageous to pay hundreds of dollars to see someone perform live and lose hearing when you can listen to something similar enough from home, but not everybody shares my opinion.

This is really the meat of it. PK is a terrible human and that has nothing to do with her art or writing skills.

I'm not really debating what glip is like as a person, or their social interactions. As I've said a few times here, I try to reserve judgement for when I have first-hand experience with someone, or for when evidence is presented that can't be easily fabricated. That's not me calling alleged victims liars, or me saying glip is a perfect angel, but me being skeptical of strangers on the internet.

I like how you posted this without noticing the problem. We know she's a good artist(when she puts effort into it). Her current work isn't showing that. This was said more than once. Nobody would be harsh about if her attitude wasn't complete shit. Why do you get to criticize an edit but criticizing the original artist is a sin?

I almost feel like you skimmed over what I've said, considering I acknowledged that glip doesn't put the same amount of effort into their artwork now as they used to.

I never called it a sin to criticize glip's art. I said it was ridiculous for people to tell a kid that their edits improved the work when objectively speaking the changes were poorly executed and added little if anything to the effectiveness/readability of the page.

Editing to add that I didn't intend to imply that only professionals can give valid critique of someone else's work. Nevertheless that's what I apparently communicated, and I apologize.

 

[Erica]

1) I literally didn't. I said they're capable of more detailed and elaborate pieces, that's all.

2) I'm not saying they're the best story teller ever. I'm also confused and annoyed by the project hopping and I lost most interest in trying to stay in the loop on that a while ago. I'm saying that for what they intend, the quick, unpolished work makes sense.



Depends on the commissioner. I wouldn't pay for it, and neither would you, because we don't value glip enough as an individual, or their style, to pay for their service. But to a lot of their fans, it is worth it, or else they wouldn't jump at every chance to buy commissions. It's sort of like concert tickets. I think it's outrageous to pay hundreds of dollars to see someone perform live and lose hearing when you can listen to something similar enough from home, but not everybody shares my opinion.



I'm not really debating what glip is like as a person, or their social interactions. As I've said a few times here, I try to reserve judgement for when I have first-hand experience with someone, or for when evidence is presented that can't be easily fabricated. That's not me calling alleged victims liars, or me saying glip is a perfect angel, but me being skeptical of strangers on the internet.



I almost feel like you skimmed over what I've said, considering I acknowledged that glip doesn't put the same amount of effort into their artwork now as they used to.

I never called it a sin to criticize glip's art. I said it was ridiculous for people to tell a kid that their edits improved the work when objectively speaking the changes were poorly executed and added little if anything to the effectiveness/readability of the page.

Editing to add that I didn't intend to imply that only professionals can give valid critique of someone else's work. Nevertheless that's what I apparently communicated, and I apologize.

As a wise man once said, those in glass houses should not continue to backpedal to pretend they made their point and everyone else is just an idiot.

http://floraverse.com
Anyway, opa-opa's story has now started, apparently just text? Probably more of a script than floraverse proper has, anyway.

 

[Lion]

i have to give opaopa props for trying to make sense of chathur's quirky speech

 

[pissyshitty]

As a wise man once said, those in glass houses should not continue to backpedal to pretend they made their point and everyone else is just an idiot.

?

 

[nonnewtonian]

Doubt that tbh, either PK or another close buddy. I don't think I've ever seen Eevee write like an illiterate or fly off the handle like PK does. And he did spend that time last night tweeting about autism.

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Eevee also writes big rambly walls of text. The guy can't make a succinct post to save his life.