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Should be a wild four years.

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All the hippie talk of automating everything goes out the window if you just pay your damn workers and treat them like a human being.
I get that you live in the middle of the desert so you probably have no idea what you're talking about, but this is not true. Farming is one of THE fields that drives technology in the US, believe it or not, but it depends on the crop. GPS-guided tractors, new combines every year, etc. are all front and center for the major crops like corn and soybeans. The main reason that we haven't developed sophisticated machines for harvesting high-maintenance crop machines for stuff like strawberries is because most of them are not staple crops (like corn and soybeans).

Case in point: cotton, the crop that the Civil War was fought over. An intensive crop that requires hand-picking due to how delicate it is. What did the cotton farmers do one slavery was illegal? They developed a combine to harvest it. Farming is one field that certainly is at risk of losing laborers to technology, but what's the downside? We lose slave labor that sends a chunk of their salary to a foreign (and potentially hostile) country?

Basically, the dilemma we face is either we pay double for luxury crops after deporting every wetback that worked for under minimum wage, or we innovate. Either way is a win.
 
Maybe there are other explanations for the points above, but to me it reads as Trump is serious about mass deportations and the elite class is losing their collective shit over it. If Trump wasn't serious then those people wouldn't do anything other than the typical performative outrage. Instead, they're throwing everything that can at Trump and anyone else that's aiding in his agenda.
Your arguments were strong and made me realise i may have sperged out a bit on trumps words.
 
I guess the real question is, how successful will Trump and Miller be?
I'm not sure. They've already tried to kill Trump 2 or 3 times, and tbh I don't expect them to stop any time soon. There's also still rats in the White House trying to sabotage everything. Can't forget the corrupt judges that keep stopping every effort to remove illegals.

I can't say for sure that Trump and Miller will be able to do it. But I will say, they seem to be literally the only people who are actually, honest to God, trying. If they can't do it, then no one can. The system is too big and beyond fucked to fix.

But I'm praying that isn't the case and we will succeed. I pray that there is a reason Trump survived multiple assassination attempts against all odds.
 
THE GRINGOS KNOW SHUT IT DOWN

It's the United Farm Workers flag. Socialist flag that is now used for MEChA (Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlán), a Chicano Power National Socialist movement who love going around chanting "Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada." (For the (Chicano) race, everything. Outside of the race, nothing.) They pass themselves off as some college campus Hispanic empowerment thing but they are pretty serious racial supremacists. They're entrenched in the southwest United States and California, waiting for what they see as the coming race war. They're big on the pre-Mexican-American war borders and see all of that land as theirs by birthright.
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In their own words:
"As Chicanas and Chicanos of Aztlán, we are a nationalist movement of Indigenous Gente that lay claim to the land that is ours by birthright. As a nationalist movement we seek to free our people from the exploitation of an oppressive society that occupies our land. Thus, the principle of nationalism serves to preserve the cultural traditions of La Familia de La Raza and promotes our identity as a Chicana/Chicano Gente."

Also fun fact there is a sub group/off shoot of MEChA who are all about Castizo/Castiza or whiter Mexican identiy and they use this flag (lol)
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EDIT: You also have MEChA to thank for all of those "Viva la raza" (Long live our race) chants going on right now. They're a lot more influential than a lot of people care to admit. I have a theory that they are the reason Hispanics voted for Trump last year, seeing him as a means to speed up their race war they want so much.
The taconiggers have been raring for a race war in hopes of retaking Aztlan for much, much longer than most modern Americans know. In 1915, being stuck in the middle of the catastrophically destructive civil wars collectively known as the Mexican Revolution in no way stopped them from plotting to create an anti-white racial alliance and embark on the genocide of all white Americans in the Southwest above the age of 16 (women & children were to be spared, presumably for the same purpose that the Haitians let some French women live when they carried out their genocide - for use as slaves by the victorious warlords). In the 1960s, Chicano nationalists were not only organizing into groups like the Brown Berets and Federal Land Grant Alliance, they were actively engaging in terrorist activity to try to retake the land they still believe to be theirs.

Of all the peoples most likely to kick off a genuinely hot race war in America sometime this century, the beaners are IMO actually at the top of that list, ahead of whites & Jews & Asians & blacks alike. They're the ones most collectively eager for it while entertaining the fewest delusions about multiracial kumbaya, capable of actually organizing & fighting worth a damn unlike the niggers, less averse to open hostilities & bloodshed when victory isn't 1000% guaranteed yet by their previous machinations than the kikes or zipperheads, and they've been most actively building up their numbers for decades with that exact purpose in mind.

The concept of La Raza will have to be completely shattered & erased for the good of America. It's fundamentally anti-American in a way similar to how being an Islamist is fundamentally anti-American, as it actively prioritizes loyalty to Mexico and necessitates working against America for Mexico's benefit (just replace 'Mexico' with 'The Ummah' for Islamists) by default, and anyone who identifies as a Chicano rather than a Mexican-American (emphasis on American, in the vein of the ICE/BP guys who prove that they're still actual Americans by directly attacking Chicano & Aztlan-revanchist interests every time they do their duties, and who are on the front lines against these traitors right now) ought to be given a Cromwellian choice of 'to Hell or to Mexico'. They sure as shit will never consider any American soil they step on to be 'American', ever.

From those photos of rioters destroying American property while waving Mexican (or Guatemalan, or other-Latin-American-shithole-that-they-really-don't-want-to-go-back-to) flags, many thousands if not millions of Americans are just getting their first look at how much of a hateful fifth column these taconiggers really are. If it comes to a race war, don't let them save face by paying them for the privilege of eating 'rightful Mexican clay' as Polk did and don't let them stay under any circumstance, cases like Tijerina and today's rioters prove that it doesn't matter how many generations pass or whether they were anchor babies born on 'Murican soil, these taconiggers will ALWAYS be enemies of America and must be driven out for Americans' own sake.
 
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Americans split on Trump's use of military in immigration protests, Reuters/Ipsos poll finds
Reuters (archive.ph)
By Jason Lange
2025-06-12 23:06:57GMT
  • Poll shows partisan divide on military use in protests
  • Few approve of Trump's handling of Los Angeles protests
  • Support for increased deportations remains mainstream in U.S
WASHINGTON, June 12 (Reuters) - Americans are divided over President Donald Trump's decision to activate the military to respond to protests against his crackdown on migrants, with about half supportive of the move, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll that closed on Thursday.

Some 48% of respondents in the two-day poll agreed with a statement that the president should "deploy the military to bring order to the streets" when protests turn violent, while 41% disagreed. Views on the matter split sharply along partisan lines, with members of Trump's Republican Party overwhelmingly backing the idea of calling in troops while Democrats were firmly opposed.

At the same time, just 35% of respondents said they approved of Trump's response to the protests in Los Angeles, which has included sending National Guard troops and U.S. Marines to the city and also threatening to arrest Democratic officials, including the governor of California. Some 50% of people in the poll said they disapproved of Trump's response.

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Trump has argued the military deployment in Los Angeles was needed due to protests there following a series of immigration raids in the city. Some of the demonstrations in Los Angeles have turned violent - leaving burned out cars on city streets - and 46% of respondents in the Reuters/Ipsos poll said protesters opposing Trump's immigration policies had gone too far, compared to 38% who disagreed with that view.

The protests have spread to other U.S. cities including New York, Chicago, Washington and San Antonio, Texas - all of which have large immigrant populations and tend to vote for Democrats rather than Republicans.

Trump campaigned and won last year's election on a promise to increase deportations of undocumented immigrants and Reuters/Ipsos polls have shown that his support on immigration policy has been consistently higher than on other matters, such as his stewardship of the U.S. economy.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll, which surveyed 1,136 Americans nationwide and has a margin of error of about 3 percentage points, showed wide support for increased deportations. Some 52% of respondents - including one in five Democrats and nine in 10 Republicans - backed ramping up deportations of people in the country illegally. Still, 49% of people in the poll said Trump had gone too far with his arrests of immigrants, compared to 40% who said he had not done so.

The most heated protests have taken place in Los Angeles County, where one in three residents are immigrants and about half of people born abroad are naturalized U.S. citizens, according to U.S. Census estimates.

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Nationwide, Americans took a generally dim view of Trump's threats to arrest Democratic officials like California Governor Gavin Newsom, a Democrat. Just 35% of respondents said Trump should order arrests of state and local officials who try to stop federal immigration enforcement.

Reporting by Jason Lange; Editing by Scott Malone and Diane Craft
 
This is like when you go to watch fireworks on the 4th of the July and then it's over after 15 minutes and you're just like, "Wait, that's it?"
It didn't even start yet, planes are still coming in. This is just to soften up AA

reports of explosions in these areas

Tehran
Kermanshah
Karaj
Parchin
Mashhad
Damavand
 
Your arguments were strong and made me realise i may have sperged out a bit on trumps words.
Trump has nothing to lose. He's not the one getting re-elected.

He wants to do as much damage to the deep state and the globalist regime before he leaves office. Deporting as many illegals as possible is a great way to fuck them over.
 
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