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Who is the best Catholic apologist alive today?

  • Bishop Robert Barron

    Votos: 73 38.6%
  • Fr. Mike Schmitz

    Votos: 82 43.4%
  • Trent Horn

    Votos: 46 24.3%
  • Jimmy Akin

    Votos: 20 10.6%
  • Joe Heschmeyer

    Votos: 12 6.3%
  • Matt Fradd

    Votos: 11 5.8%
  • Scott Hahn

    Votos: 22 11.6%
  • Brayden Cook - TheCatechumen

    Votos: 4 2.1%
  • Taylor Marshall

    Votos: 7 3.7%
  • Christian Fagner

    Votos: 11 5.8%
  • James White

    Votos: 17 9.0%

  • Total de votantes
    189
If His Holiness supports open borders I guess I do too now.
One big headache if you ask me. To willingly bend your politics over one mans words, no matter who, it's difficult to digest. I can say I support all His Holiness' beliefs but deep down inside that's not true. How do you stop yourself from holding old beliefs in order to follow a new set that you wish to uphold. Does that even make any sense.
Been off my meds so might not but I'm hoping someone understands what I'm trying to say
 
One big headache if you ask me. To willingly bend your politics over one mans words, no matter who, it's difficult to digest. I can say I support all His Holiness' beliefs but deep down inside that's not true.
I get it, tying yourself to one man's word is a headache. But hey, if God tells me His Holiness will get the important things, like theology, right then surely his politics can't be too bad.
How do you stop yourself from holding old beliefs in order to follow a new set that you wish to uphold. Does that even make any sense.
Been off my meds so might not but I'm hoping someone understands what I'm trying to say
Don't really understand what this part means. Also hope you are doing well fren.
 
It's also not true that you can have personal heresies as the Pope. That's the pop-Catholic view of it. Vatican I follows Bellarmine on this question.
Do you read your own sources?

“The [First Vatican] Council Fathers ultimately dismissed the case of Honorius as irrelevant, however, since contemporary theologians, such as Fr. Paul Bottalla, SJ (1823–96), had used Bellarmine’s arguments to successfully demonstrate that Honorius never actually subscribed to the heresy of monothelitism in his fateful letter to Sergius.”

Bellarmine was explicitly speaking of FORMAL heresy, not material.

Dumbass.
 
Chicago Pope memes, lets go

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First homily he delivered just now was very interesting. Seemed to particularly call out those treating Jesus as an almost hippie-like figure, emphasizing the sacrifices required to truly be Christian.
 
Honorius was declared a Heretic by an Ecumenical Council; because under Roman Catholic Canon Law heresy automatically excommunicates you atae sententiae (meaning instantly and without the need of any formal or juridical recognition), this means that Honorius wasn't just anathematized after death—he removed himself automatically from the Church at the time.
I'm not a Catholic (actually, I  am an excommunicant heretic in the eyes of the Vatican), but this part of your argument doesn't exactly foster confidence in your ability to understand finer points of Catholic doctrine. I see what you're trying to argue here, but it relies on the text of the current Code of Canon Law, which was promulgated and took effect in 1983. Pope Honorius I died in the early 7th century, over a millennium before it was written. Canon law censures, like Honorius'  anathema, can be posthumous, but they aren't usually retroactive. There are strict definitions for when an automatic penalty is applied, and nothing that would suggest it would be incurred by someone acting under duress more than 1300 years ago.
 
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