Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

He changed his mind and is not coming, lol.

Ukraine jettisoned Trump's peace proposal yesterday and made a counteroffer, which is the same unconditional Russian surrender we've seen before. Trump yelled at Zelensky in caps in his Truth Social shitpost. Zelensky announced he won't be coming to the Pope's funeral after all, presumably to avoid being yelled at in person over the Pope's dead body.

Trump is optimistic though.

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I swear what the fuck is even the point of rare earth mineral deal. There is no rare earth mineral in Ukraine. USA has more rare earth mineral. Russia has more rare earth mineral.

Rare earth mineral deal is the biggest nothingburger in the world.
 
So would it just be them clowning on limp wristed European countries?
Congrats, you have just discovered the greatest fear of neoliberal countries. There is nothing actually stopping the US, Russia, China and whoever we let tag along from just bullying Europe and the anglosphere nations. It won't be WW3. It would be the British empire gunning down tribal natives in Africa.

Quick, while Europe is distracted with Ukraine, let's go conquer Canada and Greenland. China can go resorb Taiwan. Brits most affected.
 
That pic is hilarious. I assume this is supposed to say Trump, Putin and Kim will start WW3. But who will they fight? It's clear the image is suggesting they're buddies. China would 100% be involved too. So would it just be them clowning on limp wristed European countries?
It wouldn't even be much of a world war unless they somehow got China on their side. Europe vs US and Russia would basically be like starting as Germany in late 1944 in HOI, a loss is guaranteed, it's just a matter of time. Sure, I guess France and the UK got some nukes, but that's all they have and if they ever use them, Europe will be turned in to a radioactive wasteland in 15 minutes while the rest of the world suffer some minor damage.

Even if Europe somehow got China on their side, how will they ship material from China to Europe? The US controls the Oceans and Russia control the land routes. Europe is not the manufacturing center it once was, there's no way it could shift gears and mass-produce 100s of millions of guns and shells before the war would be over. That's if the people even want to fight which is doubtful after 50+ years of immigration, endless betrayal and anti-nationalist brainwashing.
 
It wouldn't even be much of a world war unless they somehow got China on their side. Europe vs US and Russia would basically be like starting as Germany in late 1944 in HOI, a loss is guaranteed, it's just a matter of time. Sure, I guess France and the UK got some nukes, but that's all they have and if they ever use them, Europe will be turned in to a radioactive wasteland in 15 minutes while the rest of the world suffer some minor damage.

Even if Europe somehow got China on their side, how will they ship material from China to Europe? The US controls the Oceans and Russia control the land routes. Europe is not the manufacturing center it once was, there's no way it could shift gears and mass-produce 100s of millions of guns and shells before the war would be over. That's if the people even want to fight which is doubtful after 50+ years of immigration, endless betrayal and anti-nationalist brainwashing.
China would never side with Europe, since they want Taiwan so bad. Going aggressive against Taiwan would immediately put them at odds with the EU cause "muh democracy", or some stupid shit. Simply put, should the EU declare war, it's going to be brutal, one-sided affair. Best of all, immigrants will immediately chimp out, causing mass chaos and destruction at home. They do it in their own countries, so why wouldn't they do it in another?
 
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China would never side with Europe, since they want Taiwan so bad. Going aggressive against Taiwan would immediately put them at odds with the EU cause "muh democracy", or some stupid shit. Simply put, should the EU declare war, it's going to be brutal, one-sided affair. Best of all, immigrants will immediately chimp out, causing mass chaos and destruction at home. They do it in their own countries, so why wouldn't they do it in another?
I know the current situation, but just to entertain the notion of a world war 3 you have to allow for some creative ways that china could switch sides, otherwise there's just no strategic balance and no world war. The current European administration is infamous for it's insanity but even they should see the disaster that's potentially coming and perhaps arrange for secret talks with China to give them Taiwan in exchange for help in a war against Russia and America, it's literally the only even remotely viable move for Europe in this scenario. The big question is if China is willing to risk it as their ally would be about as useful as Italy in ww2.
 
i agree 100% on this take. people will receive conscription papers and will go queue to get their rifle and uniform. else, they will lose their job, be debanked, their kids will be conscripted instead (they will be conscripted anyway), and so on
There are no rifles and uniforms to give out. You guys are vastly underestimating how hilariously fucked Europe is. We'd have to be arming conscripts with dildos.
 
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Kiev operative charged in Russian general’s assassination: RT

Ignat Kuzin acted on orders from Ukrainian handlers and planted a bomb that killed Yaroslav Moskalik in a Moscow suburb, investigators have said.

Russian investigators have charged a man with carrying out a car bomb attack that killed a senior general in a Moscow suburb last week. The suspect confessed to acting under orders from Ukrainian security services, the Investigative Committee has said.

In a statement released on Sunday, investigators announced that 42-year-old Ignat Kuzin faces charges of committing a terrorist act and illegal handling and manufacturing of explosives. The committee spokesperson Svetlana Petrenko said Kuzin fully admitted his guilt and agreed to confirm his testimony during on-site investigation procedures.

Kuzin was detained shortly after the explosion that killed the deputy chief of operations of Russia’s General Staff, Lt. Gen. Yaroslav Moskalik, on April 25 outside his home in Balashikha. Petrenko stated that Kuzin had been recruited by the Ukrainian Security Service (SBU) in 2023. For his involvement, Kuzin was allegedly promised a payment of $18,000.

Investigators added that Kuzin moved to Russia in September 2023 “awaiting specific instructions from a Ukrainian handler.” Article/Archive

Ignat Kuzin has been placed in pre-trial detention for two months following a decision by Moscow’s Basmanny Court. Link

Kuzin, an ethnic Russian and resident of Sumy, admitted that in September 2023 he arrived in the Moscow region. On instructions from the SBU he rented a flat in September 2024 and tracked the routine of his neighbor, General Moskalik (an ethnic Ukrainian), for a month.

He had fled to Turkey but was caught and handed over to Russia.
 
of course it will be a shit army of unfit, overweight, overage, demotivated couch surfers with no idea whatsoever on how to pull a trigger and commanded by incompetent bureaucrats who got their training in CoD. the large number of NCO and CO necessary to run any sizeable military operation simply do not exist.
You're making the same mistake that NATO did at the start of the war: underestimating the enemy.
France ended conscription in 2001. Germany ended conscription in 2011. Pooland still has mandatory military service. There are enough male European citizens of military age in Europe to provide for a lot of infantry. Now your point about NCOs (and all the "mid rank" officers in general) as well as facilities that have the capacity to house, clothe, feed, etc the "Euroarmy" not existing in sufficient capacities are well made. Unfortunately, as we can see in Ukranda, this is only an obstacle if you want to win and care about the lives of your soldiers...

your argument it nothing ever happens, so all the coups, riots, violent overthrows and civil wars that ever happened only did because the TPTB allowed them to, to their own demise? this obviously doesn't make any sense.
Of course this argument doesn't make sense: I didn't make it! Nice strawman, nigga.
My argument was that if TPTB decide to put your ass in a trench they'll do that regardless of all the very intellectual reasons you listed. Gender equality, illegals, and browns? Doesn't matter. You're a male citizen of fighting age? Here's your rifle, now go play with the Russniggs.
fucking france has constant chimpouts, trucks of peace and knife attacks all over europe, racial tensions higher than ever, and THIS is who you want to conscript and give weapons to? are you really sure that this is your argument
It's almost like you didn't read my post, but I guess turnabout is fair play since I was open about skipping reading most of yours :story:

30 seconds in Google.
>posts screenshots doctored by vatniggers
This has been deboooonked. I'm onto you, zigger!!

Real talk: I was hoping to find archived Mirovorets pages, but apparently these images are all that's left and they aren't really convincing by themselves if you were to present them outside of this thread.

That pic is hilarious. I assume this is supposed to say Trump, Putin and Kim will start WW3. But who will they fight?
Obviously they would fight our blessed "Democratic Rules Based Order" while oppressing our hekking trannyrinos and homorinos.

I swear what the fuck is even the point of rare earth mineral deal. There is no rare earth mineral in Ukraine. USA has more rare earth mineral. Russia has more rare earth mineral. Rare earth mineral deal is the biggest nothingburger in the world.
Mate, do a good and you'll find plenty of information about all kinds of minerals in Ukranny, including rare earth metals. I have never heard this point debated unless you have some "on the ground" geological assessment claiming that it's all BS.
That said, you are correct that the "mineral deal" is a nothingburger because it's so lopsided in America's favor that Ukranda will never accept it. Trump is just using it as a stick to bully an innocent Jew who's fighting to save his kosher ass nation from destruction.
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There is nothing actually stopping the US, Russia, China and whoever we let tag along from just bullying Europe and the anglosphere nations. It won't be WW3. It would be the British empire gunning down tribal natives in Africa.
Bullying how? With trade policies and sanctions? I am curious how you see this playing out. Is US "bullying" Europe right now with Trump's retarded comments about "annexing Greenland" and flirting with a withdrawal from NATO? Because most of Europe has shown they don't give a shit. I can't recall if any country in NATO has reached spending 5% of GDP on their military. Not even Pooland who's talked about as the "militarily strongest European nation". Best I can find for them is 4.7% of GDP in 2025.

Some cute AI Ghibli sloppa:
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neocons said the same thing about Afghanistan. Trillions of unrealized resources in the mountain.
Ukraine is too fucking corrupt for any kind of long term developement.
I see the biggest in A-stan not corruption (although of course it exists) but challenges with terrain, infrastructure, and security. In contrast to A-stan Ukraine is mostly flat, has plenty of developed infrastructure (lots left over from Soviet times because Donbass was a huge mining sector in the USSR), and will have piss after Putler eventually teabags Keef.

THAT SAID... your post grabbed my curiosity so I started digging a bit more and found this article which makes several claims:
  • All geological assessments of rare earth deposits that we have come from the Soviet period. Since 1991 there is little or no publicly available data on verifying existence or composition of these deposits with any new techniques.
  • The one deposit that has been studied the most (Novopoltavske field in the Zaporizhzhia region) may be too cost-prohibitive to extract.
In other words it's more complicated than "Ukranny has no minerals", but you grugg instincts may not be far from the actual troof.

Bonus link: Russia is offering USA a big carrot by inviting them into a partnership on exploiting rare earth deposits on Russia's territory. And we all know Drumpf loves a good deal!

Bonus pics from Worst Korea Twitter user @coop_soggy. They draw a lot of cool/weird stuff, some influenced by Soviet or Russian themes.
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My waifu. Why is she using an M16? Because she's drunk.
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@Dave The Diver neocons said the same thing about Afghanistan. Trillions of unrealized resources in the mountain.

Ukraine is too fucking corrupt for any kind of long term developement.

America already has all the rare earth mineral it needs at home. It just cost too much to mine, extract and refine them.
Besides, if we really needed more minerals. We can just pillage Canada and latin america. There's no actual need to fight a war against Russia for it.
 
In his latest report Simp writes the following:
Of course, Russia lost a huge amount of equipment here as well, and the entire saga was marred by various failures of military leadership in this sector. Hundreds of civilians have now been confirmed slaughtered, with many women and young girls raped by AFU and mercenaries. This unfortunately does fall on the early incompetence and failures of Russian leadership to amply defend the borders.

Does anyone have confirmation from direct Russian sources of this? I want to find out if this is actually the truth and feed my fires of hatred for piggers if it is.

TOTAL HOHOL DEATH

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this is only an obstacle if you want to win
Arming untrained civilians that already hate your guts and then sending them on a suicide mission is a great recipe to produce more armed rebel groups than cannonfodder.
Ukraine gets/got away with this because they have/had a fairly "patriotic" culture that rather successfully indoctrinated their bootleg Volkssturm units and thus prevented this questionable strategy from blowing up on them.
No western euro-shithole has either the lack of demographic issues/niggers or the strong nationalism the ukies did.

Not to mention what will happen when you "speed-draft" Achmet and Mohammet as well.
Those guys already de-facto rebel against government authority in every major european city where they create these cute No-Go zones even the police does not go into.
Hand them rifles and APCs and you get warlords and miniature califates, not an army.
That would be what the leftists then living by shariah law deserve, but its not something that will help in a war.

I dont even think they would do that do begin with. These governments are incompetent, corrupt and openly treacherous, but they do know very well how fragile their shitty system is.
They did a several ideological cleansings and fired a bunch of military personell over the last 15 years because they are already paranoid about their professional armed forces being illoyal.
There is no way in hell they will arm large quantities of random people and just hope that they will do what they are told and politely march to their death.

I dont think going by historical precedent for situations like this when there is an unprecedented degree of hatred between politicians and the people they allegedly represent will work.
@Dave The Diver neocons said the same thing about Afghanistan. Trillions of unrealized resources in the mountain.

Ukraine is too fucking corrupt for any kind of long term developement.

America already has all the rare earth mineral it needs at home. It just cost too much to mine, extract and refine them.
Im pretty sure the whole mineral talk is just a red-herring to avoid admitting that:
A) the plan was to destroy the Russian army and eliminate them as a global power
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B) that this creative idea failed so spectacularly that it somehow achieved the opposite of what they wanted in just about every way.
That would imply that the deep-state tardigrades are not only insane and dangerous, but also comically bad at their job.

So now they pretend that this was about minerals all along in the same way the middle eastern wars were totally about oil. And minerals i guess.
These natural resources are always just the icing on the cake of the actual goals. Probably worth taking when you can but absolutely not worth waging war over.
They do are a satisfactory thing for "enlightened" people to think so they don't ask any actually uncomfortable questions though.
The "lie-by-omission" is the most used propaganda tool of western governments and MSM for a reason. Its technically true and cant be disproven.
 
After consulting with Real Ziggers, the consensus is that this is the only real photo of Kursk Norks that we have so far:
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What Russniggers have said about North Korean soldiers so far:
The Korean soldiers distinguished themselves with their coherence, discipline, fatal disregard for death and remarkable endurance. It is understandable - they are mostly young guys, strong, pumped up and well trained in their homeland. Especially their units of the Special Operations Forces. The allies made a great contribution to the liberation of the Korenevsky district, and in the battles near Staraya and Novaya Sorochiny, and in the breakthrough to Kurilovka... They had a strict rule - not to be captured alive. And not to surrender voluntarily.

What Ukroniggers have said about North Korean soldiers so far:
Ukrainian soldiers describe the North Korean soldiers as being very far from inexperienced cannon fodder.

“They are young, motivated, physically fit, brave, and good at using small arms. They are also disciplined. They have everything you need for a good infantryman,” Chepurnyi said.

Yuriy Bondar, a Ukrainian soldier with the 80th separate airborne assault brigade, said North Korean soldiers have extremely good physical training and have stable morale.

I am so fucking Juche-pilled right now bros, it's unreal.


Turns out that's just an Uzbek shitposting. Also: gay...
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Arming untrained civilians that already hate your guts and then sending them on a suicide mission is a great recipe to produce more armed rebel groups than cannonfodder.
that is very true, but as in the case of ukrops, having execution teams behind ready to shoot you in the back if you refuse to obey order, retreat or try to defect works wonders.

at any rate, i predict that Dracula's money, all debt based, will end up in the pockets of MIC shareholders with rich kickbacks for the european elites, while little will be done to create real armies beyond some token special forces group.

before sending the first draft letter, thy will need to outlaw all "right wing" parties and install de facto dictators, or else get slaughtered at the next election. personally, i would advocate for a slaughter without elections.
 
So for all talk of leftist infighting, it has only ever been a shitty solzhenitsyn lie.

Christianity, for Russia, is a literal treasonous cuckshit enemy ideology, worse than worthless. We're fighting a "Christian" nation while pretending to be a "Christian" nation of nominally the same huwhite race. All huwhite Christian nations are arrayed against us, even the Orthodoxes like Serbs are simply coming up with shitty excuses to continue voting against us and providing military aid to hohols. Russian christards can only cry for piss deals at the cost of more of our lives and exploit camaraderie to increase the nominal headcount of the sheeple.

But yellow Norks, whom the capitalist Russia has continually betrayed, came through. We'd parted ways politically, they'd drifted to Juche (radical self-reliance, in the face of betrayal) and we'd trooned out, and they still came through. We're not Communist politically or economically, but we believe in Communism; for us it's the superior religion that Christianity only pretends to be.
 
Putin thanked DPRK for help in liberating Kursk region
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Footage of combat training of North Korean soldiers who participated in the military operations in the Kursk region.


I can't believe the North Korean shit was real. Holy fuck, it sounded so made up
This is not surprising, given that the BBC did such articles from the words of Ukrainians.
The question then arises: what is the reason for lifting the veil of doubt by Russia?
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