Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

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Related to the historical background of the Ukraine war, I just saw this uploaded a few days ago. It's the most high quality footage of the events of 1993 that I have seen, and it really reveals a lot of things. It has a number of stupid comments but also surprisingly some intelligent ones last time I checked. I always wonder why this pivotal event is so overlooked, and also when you consider the mechanizations of foreign powers too in regards to Yeltsin.


Footage of the gun fighting and the storming of the white house starts at 1:18:21 Never seen this raw combat footage before.
 
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Related to the historical background of the Ukraine war, I just saw this uploaded a few days ago. It's the most high quality footage of the events of 1993 that I have seen, and it really reveals a lot of things. It has a number of stupid comments but also surprisingly some intelligent ones last time I checked. I always wonder why this pivotal event is so overlooked, and also when you consider the mechanizations of foreign powers too in regards to Yeltsin.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DzdiJGSs3HU
Footage of the gun fighting and the storming of the white house starts at 1:18:21 Never seen this raw combat footage before.
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll add it to my queue. As to what it isn't more readily talked about, I think you answered your own question: too many fingerprints of too many people with interests in the Yeltsin government that'd rather not have the topic be discussed.
 
That's tempting for Russia, but I wonder whether US will have to use a big stick to make EU nations to do their part.
Lifting sanctions are meaningless, as they can re-impose them again for any other reason.

The Americans also have a hard-on to export LNG to Europe, after the Russians inexplicably blew up their own pipeline.
And want to keep any competition away from their sales pitch.
 
Kursk was last hail mary of germans and after that it went straight down. And no, it was not the turning point. Winter of 1942/1943 was.
Probably autistic to argue the exact turning point of the east but as you say hail mary and it was the biggest battle humanity ever had, dont see them coming back from that quite frankly. I believe Kursk was when the student became the master and the soviets adapted and improved on much they had learned from the axis. Before Kursk, Germany had the best combined arms military in the world, and after Kursk the soviets did. Didnt they even lose most of their tigerIIs to mines, hotdamn bruh.
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What makes you say it was the winter that was the turning point? based on front initiative and the like?

Related to the historical background of the Ukraine war, I just saw this uploaded a few days ago. It's the most high quality footage of the events of 1993 that I have seen
sorry for doubleposting edits actin fucky but thanks dude just wanted to point out how this event is sold to most of us westoids like basically nothing happened and a couple of dudes stood around on tanks looking bewildered. Maybe you get a few seconds of a shell hitting their parliament or whatsitcalled holy shit lookin forward to this fuck my ass we live in such a ridiculous mind bubble
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edit: 10m in and you can already smell the greedy little anglokikes devilishly rubbing their clawed paws, this is some footage
 
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sorry for doubleposting edits actin fucky but thanks dude just wanted to point out how this event is sold to most of us westoids like basically nothing happened and a couple of dudes stood around on tanks looking bewildered. Maybe you get a few seconds of a shell hitting their parliament or whatsitcalled holy shit lookin forward to this fuck my ass we live in such a ridiculous mind bubble

edit: 10m in and you can already smell the greedy little anglokikes devilishly rubbing their clawed paws, this is some footage
This was their "End of History" moment and they congratulated themselves, believing they had carte blanche to rape Russia of her wealth as they imagined themselves lording it over Russia, the way they lord over us.

It's why they hate Putin, and why they groomed Ukrainians to be their cat's paw against Russia.
 
Probably autistic to argue the exact turning point of the east but as you say hail mary and it was the biggest battle humanity ever had, dont see them coming back from that quite frankly. I believe Kursk was when the student became the master and the soviets adapted and improved on much they had learned from the axis. Before Kursk, Germany had the best combined arms military in the world, and after Kursk the soviets did. Didnt they even lose most of their tigerIIs to mines, hotdamn bruh.

What makes you say it was the winter that was the turning point? based on front initiative and the like?
It's 31 flavors of cope about the hard carry via American industrial output. The USSR was to WW2 what Ukraine is to the current conflict, only with no nukes to prevent the Americans from engaging in direct conflict. If half of FDR's inner circle hadn't been literal communist traitors Stalin & co would have gotten what they fucking deserved.
 
It's 31 flavors of cope about the hard carry via American industrial output. The USSR was to WW2 what Ukraine is to the current conflict, only with no nukes to prevent the Americans from engaging in direct conflict. If half of FDR's inner circle hadn't been literal communist traitors Stalin & co would have gotten what they fucking deserved.
sir this is a wendys
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I think you replied to wrong post
 
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I think it's very likely that Ukraine government is totally and wholly owned by some kind of death cult. Japan and Papa Hitler would be proud.
I think Zelensky is terrified the Nazis in his military will string him up if he makes peace, plus he is coked the fuck out and he changes his mind every 5 minutes. Right now it is like watching a boxing match where one boxer is just fucking up his opponent and he keeps looking to his opponent's corner to see if they are going to throw in the towel to save their guy and they are refusing to save him. There is nothing Ukraine can do to win this war and that should be painfully evident to even the most retarded NAFO member since their failed offensive 2 years ago. Trump is openly fed up with Zelensky and it seems he wants to normalize relations with Russia and make economic deals with them. It is going to be curious to see what Russia does in coming days/weeks, if they continue on as they have or if they go all out to try and force Zelensky to the table.
 
There is nothing Ukraine can do to win this war and that should be painfully evident to even the most retarded NAFO member
I wish.

Those cultists *still* believe that victory is juuuuuust around the corner, that Russia will implode in 2 weeks and that the only thing preventing Ukulele from destroying the 3 and a half shovel armed men in the Russian/North Korean/Chinese/Sith army is just one last sanction/gibs package.

Russian troops could march down Lvov and achieve every single wargoal plus 10 new ones and they will still spend the rest of their lives (5 years or so, they are boomers/trannies) alogging Russia and spewing out claims that its gonna collapse in a few more seconds, for real this time guys.
 
Probably autistic to argue the exact turning point of the east but as you say hail mary and it was the biggest battle humanity ever had, dont see them coming back from that quite frankly. I believe Kursk was when the student became the master and the soviets adapted and improved on much they had learned from the axis. Before Kursk, Germany had the best combined arms military in the world, and after Kursk the soviets did. Didnt they even lose most of their tigerIIs to mines, hotdamn bruh.

What makes you say it was the winter that was the turning point? based on front initiative and the like?
Correct. Zitadelle was only launched because the Germans needed to solve the problem of shortening the line so that they can better brace against the now-oncoming Soviet offensive. The only reason they needed to brace was because they lost an entire fucking field army in Stalingrad and the subsequent Operation Uranus which basically opened a gaping hole in their lines and swallowed up approximately a good half of their then-extant mechanised force in the southern front.

Citadel was a swansong, but the script to it has been written when they failed to break the 62nd Army in Stalingrad the previous summer and got themselves ground down in the subsequent knife fight.
 
So, no news from the London meeting, aside from that Rubio and the UK guy had declined the meeting.
No one else attended? Nothing else was discussed and reported?

I also did not see any clown-show from the Vatican. Trump's Secret Service team stopped Z from having yet another talk that leads nowhere?

Nothing at all happened? I feel cheated. Is this the lack of progress Rubio was talking about that would make him walk away?
 
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