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Should be a wild four years.

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That’s not what the Judge is referring to with overseas correspondents being deported.

Pg. 17 of the memorandum states that many members of one of the plaintiff organizations hold nonimmigrant visas. Makes sense, as they are here for a job as overseas correspondents. Since Trump has been told to eliminate one of our propaganda tools, these correspondents would be out of a job, no longer have a valid visa, and would have to be deported.
 
No, actually it is America that makes good stuff, in addition they make stuff no one else does or stuff that no one else can make for a reasonable cost. No I won't list any of that stuff.
Despite the shitpost response you're actually right.
The chinks pretty much have to steal everything from us to stay technologically relevant and they're bragging about monorails with LGBT lighting of all things.
Transit infrastructure to the Chinese is like giving Internet to Africans. Naturally they're going to be working with modern standards from the get go since we already did the hard work of inventing it in the first place and innovating it to where it is now.
 
That you would sacrifice the prosperity of future generations of Americans over your vidya. It's like being a boomer but shallower.
There is no guarantee — or even a solid chance — of getting this "future prosperity." We are raising prices now while we have no domestic capability to replace the supply. If he had his heart set on the tariffs, why couldn’t he at least formulate a solid plan for re-shoring and wait until we had viable alternatives before going through with it? No one has ever told me why he couldn’t build the industrial base first — or at least start on it — then implement tariffs.

I know you wont actually respond but this is useful for the others here to argue with fags like you IRL. Trump has said his focus is on real things instead of an imaginary number. That means jobs, cars, and housing.
well here I am(rock me like a hurricane)


Trump is attacking this problem in a few ways. He is deporting illegals and ending their social security and welfare which makes the existing housing supply available. He is also making it less attractive for the Chinese to invest in American real estate. In addition his focus on bring jobs and manufacturing back to America increases the income of American workers and decreases the cost of building supplies. He also ordered a 25% increase in logging of national Forrest as fire prevention and to decrease cost of building supplies used for housing. This is having a measurable effect on housing prices already.
I am not going to do the leftist shtick of saying immigration has no effect on housing costs. It does, and that is one reason why I oppose large-scale immigration.
The Chinese investing in American housing was never a major issue in the U.S. — they mostly preferred Canada for that. Most Chinese land investment in the U.S. was commercial or agricultural.

In addition his focus on bring jobs and manufacturing back to America increases the income of American workers and decreases the cost of building supplies
First, he has no solid plan for bringing back manufacturing to America. If he wants to bring it back, he needs a comprehensive plan so investors have confidence and don’t just wait it out. The reason investors put up with China is because they know the CCP will always be in power, and they announce their plans decades in advance — up to 2050. Investors will just wait it out if there is no comprehensive plan that can survive Trump and be acted on by another GOP president — or even a Democrat. Trump has no incentive to push a plan like this because he won’t get the credit for it; he’ll be out of office before its effects are noticeable. The tariffs do increase the cost of building supplies, and having Americans harvest them inherently raises prices. Things like wiring and HVAC components especially will be hit hard, since some of the needed minerals just aren’t in large supply in America.

All that is before you even factor in this extra tariff money which is basically a blank check trump can spend as he wants. He is planning to remove income tax first which is a few thousand back to the likely housing purchasers in the coming years. I don't think he should use the rest directly on housing. It can be used as needed to offset the negative effects of tariffs and to accelerate construction of manufacturing in Estados Unidos.
Thisis the motte-and-bailey of the Trump tariff argument. He justifies it as bringing in extra money for the government, but then says he will remove or at least cut income and capital gains taxes — which are the government's biggest revenue streams. So the best-case scenario is that he breaks even on tariffs. Even that is unlikely, because with the tariffs in place, fewer countries and firms will export to America, and with the higher prices, Americans will buy fewer imported goods — meaning less tariff revenue. Essentially, if the "Made in America" dream ever comes to pass, government revenue will dry up. If Trump keeps spending like a nigger on the 1st, then that will mean more debt and more money printing — just like what happened last time.
 
China makes good stuff, in addition they make stuff no one else does or stuff that no one else can make for a reasonable cost.
I make more durable shit with a 3d printer using corn powder
No, actually it is America that makes good stuff, in addition they make stuff no one else does or stuff that no one else can make for a reasonable cost. No I won't list any of that stuff.
to be fair though, quality goods is a definite yes however America doesn’t have a diverse repitore of things we make, most of it being tires, flags, cookingware and martha stewart decor. There’s exceptions but let’s face it nobody’s gonna find (I don’t know something you like) in wal-mart made in the USA that will probably last. Hence we are so reliant on china for our goods and since they always break You’ll have to buy more to replace it.
 
No, actually it is America that makes good stuff, in addition they make stuff no one else does or stuff that no one else can make for a reasonable cost. No I won't list any of that stuff.
China makes good stuff I will say what good stuff they make

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America makes good stuff as well but to say everything made in China is junk is a boomerism.
 
I'm telling you. This guy is a bona fide chicom.
The only thing a non-chinkoid would know from that list are the cars not for quality but from all the Liveleak kino.
 
First, he has no solid plan for bringing back manufacturing to America. If he wants to bring it back, he needs a comprehensive plan so investors have confidence and don’t just wait it out.
I think that even a simple plan like "believe in America and try to make it great again" is infinitely better than just giving up and letting China take over and rise to power. Even if Trump is winging it that's better than nothing. We don't need everyone to come around just enough.

Also if there isn't a plan he's doing a bang up job winging it with the trillions of dollars of onshoring already announced by real actual companies. For example Nvdia https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles...ns-u-s-as-global-superpower-in-manufacturing/
 
So the reeeeeeesistance plan is just to repeatedly shut down deportations by shopping around for corrupt judges for four years straight?

what else can they do?

The election took away all the Democrats powers, they're wrapped up in a bitter civil war and the upper echelons are full of old drunken hags who only care about keeping themselves in power and to fuck with everyone else.

Yah..so yes. They will try to keep the Trump Train delayed by filing lolsuit after lolsuit until the mid-terms when they hopefully get some seats back.
 
what else can they do?

The election took away all the Democrats powers, they're wrapped up in a bitter civil war and the upper echelons are full of old drunken hags who only care about keeping themselves in power and to fuck with everyone else.

Yah..so yes. They will try to keep the Trump Train delayed by filing lolsuit after lolsuit until the mid-terms when they hopefully get some seats back.
The hags desperate attempts to hold on to their "power" makes me wonder what kind of pathetic legacy they want to leave for themselves?
 
Money just grows on trees right?Ver archivo adjunto 7262698
Please God, make this happen.
George Washington talked all the fucking time about how much he hated foreign affairs and that he envisioned the US as a country that doesn't need their influence and shouldn't worry about what other countries are doing. Completely self reliant. There are literally hundreds of quotes of Washington talking about this but possibly his most famous and to the point quote is "History and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of Republican Government." It drives me so crazy that George Washington, the man himself, laid out almost every kind of threat that America will face in the future and how easily these things can destroy America and no one listened to him, it went in one ear and out the other to most people and hundreds of years later all the things Washington warned about were 100% correct.
Woodrow Wilson and his consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
 
May I remind you all that recession is still a very real possibility according to the Trump administration themselves.

You voted for this.
I'm a younger millennial, there have been a grand total of maybe three years out of my entire fucking life that the U.S hasn't been in a recession of some kind.

You can't threaten me with that shit I'm used to it by now.
 
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