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- I don't believe he's that stupid he can't see what's going on.
Louis Rossman had an entire rant where he basically explained he was pissed that people were taking advantage of Steven's stupidty, literally comparing him to a hot girl going "wow i can't believe so many guys are being so nice and welcoming"
As much as I appreciate Vance's way with words and attempt to explain/provide context to the deportation topic
i'm going to cry when he eventually gets killed, he's amazing when it comes to speaking on issues, the way he just deals with these journos, he's like if a Trump or Miller type was raised to be a Rhodes Scholar type glowie,
 
I’ve mentioned a couple times that the marine corps is changing its composition and doctrine in general. Specifically, the complete divestment of tank battalions, which would be impractical to move between pacific islands

Here’s where that’s from, Force Design 2030


The document came out in 2020, so it’s not news, but it’s relevant to claims I’ve been making

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China won't accept anything that won't allow them to save face. But there are many ways to save face. They are taking a pounding right now. This cannot continue.

As for your second point, it's gotten larger if I recall in terms of their formations. But the fact remains that their last real war was against Vietnam. And they lost. I think they could win in a extended war against Taiwan, but holy fuck they would take enormous losses. The Taiwan strait would be a graveyard of warships with how many anti ship missiles Taiwan has stockpiled.
My grandfather fought in the Korean War. And I’ve known several veterans. Most Americans aren’t aware or even think about the Korean War, it usually gets skipped in history class and the next topic is usually Vietnam. It’s a bigger deal for Korea and China because of the casualties inflicted. For Americans it’s a footnote.
China would hit Taiwan with everything. EVERYTHING. Why do you think they have been building so many amphibious assault ships and landing craft. They would launch a non stop air and sea campaign while deploying as many land troops as possible. Now Taiwan's defenses are beefy. China would lose a lot, and that's assuming nobody intervenes in the meantime. It would be Normandy on crack.
I think their main issue is that many Asian countries don’t plan around taking a L. So once things start to go awry they tank fast. That being said “life is cheap in the orient.” And I would never underestimate China’s indifference to their grunts and the suffering of their average people. They won’t care how many of their elderly will be left destitute without their sons. They don’t care. Which is a terrible and disastrous combination tbh.
 
My grandfather fought in the Korean War. And I’ve known several veterans. Most Americans aren’t aware or even think about the Korean War, it usually gets skipped in history class and the next topic is usually Vietnam. It’s a bigger deal for Korea and China because of the casualties inflicted. For Americans it’s a footnote.
Korea was a big "win" in Chinese culture, even though it ended in a stalemate and many chinks dead. They fought back against the Capitalists and shit.
I think their main issue is that many Asian countries don’t plan around taking a L. So once things start to go awry they tank fast. That being said “life is cheap in the orient.” And I would never underestimate China’s indifference to their grunts and the suffering of their average people. They won’t care how many of their elderly will be left destitute without their sons. They don’t care. Which is a terrible and disastrous combination tbh.
China would send millions into the grinder without question. That said, there would be consequences. The risk of revolution would be high if victory wasn't achieved.
 
The main issue with China and why they are called a paper tiger is twofold. The first is they don't have force projection. Sure they can destroy any US carrier using land based hypersonics but the US is going to position their carriers exactly outside that range and pick at their air defenses with unlimited sorties and glide bombs. China is powerless to sail out and stop them. It will basically be a repeat of the bombing campagins agiasnt Germany and Japan in WW2. Eventually enough infrastructure will be destroyed that America will make a beach head. China has no ability to do the same to the United States.

The second issue is that every country surrounding China HATES THEM with the FURY OF A THOUSAND SUNS. If they used their millitary for anything other than defense those countries would use the opportunity to attack. Furthermore those countries are allies with the United States and would be happy to provide staging areas for further attacks. The US could also clandestine arm them which has never backfired.
 
The first is they don't have force projection.
China's entire military is geared towards coastal defense. They're preparing for a mainland invasion, but it's all useless because a US military invasion of China would involve a fuckhuge volley of missiles from thousands of miles away. They learned nothing from Gulf War 1.
 
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