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Should be a wild four years.

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I'm not exaggerating to say I struggle to comprehend this. It's like a society having developed nuclear power without having discovered the wheel. Or a modern citizen in a developed nation just stop in the street to do a rain dance because they forgot to water their lawn that morning. The juxtaposition of American not having mastered these things against its wealth and institutions is just hard to get my head around. Like, are you a Third World country or a First World? When will you make up your minds?
We have already made up our minds, a certain political party keeps rigging the votes.
 
RFK is unfathomably based. Niggers on SNAP don't deserve junk food or soda.
Honestly it goes beyond a specific policy idea for me at this point.

The fact that it makes Niggers and White Trash seethe cause they can't get they sodie pop on my dime makes me want it.
 
Honestly it goes beyond a specific policy idea for me at this point.

The fact that it makes Niggers and White Trash seethe cause they can't get they sodie pop on my dime makes me want it.
Its mostly the politicians who are seething and sneeding. They get kickbacks from junk food and soda companies for allowing SNAP to buy their shit. These companies also fund scientific studies saying "no stalker child, chips and pop don't make people fat. its a lack of exercise."

That might be partially true. But eating bad chemicals also harms your body. A lie by omission is still a lie.


There's probably a crossover with big pharma as well. They get to make drugs to solve obesity and hook people on diabetes drugs as well.
 
So using myself as an example, with this logic, I should become a screaming Marxist because my paternal family comes from late Romanov Russia, and they're a bunch of lefty types with a handful of people who behave like NPC stereotypes. How ridiculous. If I weren't related to them, I wouldn't doubt they would not spit on me if I were on fire because of my own rightist politics. With this kind of logic, I should dumb myself down and start sitting in front of MSNBC all day.

"Muh heritage", that's practically synonymous with Americans at this point. I'm sick of it. Have talked about relatives who are have tried to push pro-Ukraine stupidity on me because of a grandparent of mine having a sole Ukrainian grandparent themselves they never met when that living grandparent is half Russian.
To be fair, you said "I should become a screaming Marxist but haven't" and then you said "my family tried to push pro-ukraine shit because one ancestor was ukrainian" - this illustrates the primary issue that your personal beliefs can be affected by your family's long-term sense of identity.

Just because you resisted this doesn't mean others will.
 
Don't tell me they're complaining about 2.8% annual.. If that's the case after what we had for 3 years or more at 3-5x that then nothing will make them happy. And nothing will of course. Under 3% is always considered good, in 'normal' times.
I believe the 3% you're thinking of is 3% CPI. This is a different metric (PCE), which in "normal" times, should be at 2%.
 
Every time I suggest letting pre-teens and teenagers legally work more, or that doing to will help them develop a sense of responsibility and ethics, people look at me like I have two heads. A common response is accusing me of wanting to send little kids to die in mines and pre-OSHA factories to prevent them from going to school and escaping poverty.

I was illegally forced to work from 7-18. It was extremely demoralizing and it ruined any resemblance of a childhood I could have had. Yes, I did get a minuscule income, but often times that was how I ate dinner. The job I was forced to have wasn’t unlike a job they might give minors today, and I am adamantly against the idea of underaged labor.
Yes, it taught me work ethic, but the warping it did to my personality and social life is probably partially responsible for why I post on this site now, and definitely partially why I ended up making my account in Christmas of all days
 
You’re arguing something that happened 20 years ago, and confuse Neocons, who are leftists, with average conservatives. The average conservative at this point doesn’t give a shit if some corrupt democrat black politician goes to jail at this point especially post-fentanyl Floyd riots.

There is no such thing as a neocon voter. They don't exist, not in any meaningful numbers, and never have. The average Republican voter for the last 30 or 40 years, we're talking the heartland church-every-Sunday conservatives, adores MLK and the negro race as a whole. Cracks have only just begun appearing because the Mostly Peaceful Riots, but if you think the average American conservative doesn't think of MLK as a saintly man with a pure vision, you spend too much time in online right-wing spaces. You still have to be really careful with how you treat negroes in America.
 
You're missing the point, if you make raw materials (unprocessed crude oil) cost more (tariffs), the final product (gasoline) is going to cost more wherever it's sold (America). Tariffs on Canadian oil will increase the price at the pump. The signs are correct.

But they miss the point, I imagine. Burgerclaps would pay double for gas if it meant Canada got a kick in the ass.
You're retarded. The market is anticipatory and on a knife's edge. Everyone's making predictable models and going off of them to minimize losses. Everybody is risk averse. The market today is so insanely risk averse they'll manage prices in anticipation just to get ahead of the curve regardless of how damaging it is or not. So, no you literally will not feel it at the pump. There will be no period of time where you feel a "pinch" before things better. One day things will happen behind the scenes and you'll never even notice it. Prices will continue to follow this plummeting trend. You don't understand today's economic market.

I think most of the backwards thinking in America would fix itself if we actually paid people what they deserve instead of what we do today which is the opposite. Dirty jobs that are essential for society to function deserve the money that the childish jobs like acting and playing sports get. You want to play sports for a living? You shouldn't have ever left high school then.
Congratulations, you've discovered Communism. I'm not being facetious when I say this either. That is the exact logical thinking that Karl Marx used to convince and sell people on Communism. He would argue things like this to start the process of grooming people. I went through this exact same process and discussions in grade school. We had this exact discussion to groom us into thinking Communism was a good thing. It's a lead in. It was always a midwit argument.

The reality is, nigger ball players HAVE to get paid that much money. Why? Well, if they didn't and I could get a career and make 60k per year as opposed to playing Niggerball, for a 2 year contract of Niggerball my salary would have to exceed that 60k. Plus the costs of travelling around constantly and security detail as now you're celebrity. However, the most important cost of all: Time and Health. If I'm playing Niggerball for ten years, that's ten years I could be doing a career. Ten years of Niggerball at let's say 60k, is 600,000. So I better be getting paid at least that 600k. Now let's talk about injury. Niggerball players put their bodies at risk and get potentially life altering injuries. Depending on the sport, they straight up have shortened lifespans. Many niggerball players are dropping dead by 60-70 or have serious issues due to the strain on your body. If you don't have wealth, you're absolutely fucked. And what happens then? No one plays Niggerball. Anyone smart, wouldn't play Niggerball. You're reducing your lifespan and subjecting yourself to potentially serious life altering injuries. That burden is all on you. You're taking those millions in exchange for suing the Niggerball League. Which normally would pay out the ass otherwise, but it's cheaper to pay you millions now than leave themselves open to injury lawsuits later. If you've ever tried to do a sport as a 30+ year old man, you'd understand the intense strain on your body compared to when you were 18-20. Now apply that feeling to an actual career of Niggerball. It's not easy on you.

Everything is the way it is for a reason. Nothing is without a reason. Also, some janitors are paid exceedingly well.
 
Yeah, it's kind of dismaying seeing how little effort the MAGA movement is putting into the ground game for the state legislature here. Yes, Hawaii is a deep blue state, but there are several long-standing red and purple districts that are in danger of being lost because the RINOs who predominated the local GOP apparatus have all gone AWOL and the few people that are stepping up are of very questionable quality or competence, or have zero experience in canvasing or politicking. There's still time, but they have got to get in on this and start sorting things out and developing some real grass-roots messaging.

Anyone got any other reports of their state and county ground game with regards to the MAGA movement?
The state level GOP in a lot of places is controlled by or beholden to RINOs. That’s the problem in California, for instance. These people would rather lose than be a MAGA party.

But let’s not be doomers. The DNC at the state level in Florida has entirely collapsed, for example. Florida was considered a battle ground state just two elections ago, so that’s insane.

But if you want the GOP to win after Trump or to win non-presidential elections, the state level infrastructure has to be taken over, too. There are a lot of good old boys running these political machines, and a lot of them have always hated Trump.
 
That Sec. RFK Jr. speech makes me want to go work-out.

It makes you WANT to work out? My brother in Christ, we need to get off our asses and actually work out. MAHA isn’t gonna work until we make ourselves go from fat and unsexable to jacked and unsexable. That goes for me as well.
 
The state level GOP in a lot of places is controlled by or beholden to RINOs. That’s the problem in California, for instance. These people would rather lose than be a MAGA party.

But let’s not be doomers. The DNC at the state level in Florida has entirely collapsed, for example. Florida was considered a battle ground state just two elections ago, so that’s insane.

But if you want the GOP to win after Trump or to win non-presidential elections, the state level infrastructure has to be taken over, too. There are a lot of good old boys running these political machines, and a lot of them have always hated Trump.
This has massively hampered Conservative efforts in Texas. The Texas House is controlled by Rinos who work with the Dems to ensure nothing worthwhile gets done.
 
But do they have an actual case? All I see is some disphit who looks exactly how you'd expect a bugman would. Boasberg was against deporting gangbangers. How the fuck can the average American be against the deportation of those fucks?
They don't have a case. It's because Baosberg is an evil fuck and deserves a lynching. Much like Judge Ali, he probably also has a wife receiving a lot money from USAID and NGOs. Unfortunately for us, Roberts is a giant swamp creature and has gone full mask drop. So while they don't have a case, Trump might still lose purely because he's against the deepest state machines of the Deep State machines. That being said, Trump needs to either dismantle them or ignore them. I don't see this ending without Trump packing the Supreme Court.
 
The state level GOP in a lot of places is controlled by or beholden to RINOs. That’s the problem in California, for instance. These people would rather lose than be a MAGA party.

But let’s not be doomers. The DNC at the state level in Florida has entirely collapsed, for example. Florida was considered a battle ground state just two elections ago, so that’s insane.

But if you want the GOP to win after Trump or to win non-presidential elections, the state level infrastructure has to be taken over, too. There are a lot of good old boys running these political machines, and a lot of them have always hated Trump.
The problem with California is that the government is literally using taxpayer money to fund NGOs to ballot harvest so the Democrats stay in power.
 
Oy vey goyim.
You don't like Massie's retarded 90's Republican takes on "dUh FrEe MaRkEt" therefore you agree with my people's crusade against him for not toeing the line to suck our dick. Oy vey he has reasonable takes about dual citizenship? Quick, here's this random ass Rabbi concerned about his constituents not being allowed to go to jewish church while incarcerated, surely you'll care now because of freedom of religion now please ignore that nobody else gets released from prison just to go to church and never has.
This is the type of low IQ wignat response I'm talking about btw. The guy doesn't understand what he's talking about, doesn't understand the role of a prison chaplain, but knows that massa Massie can't be wrong.

this particular dude already went on about serving the IDF
i served yes

fake Oct 7 nonsense
You mean how Hamas filmed themselves massacring Israelis and who specifically targeted civilian targets?

The source of the Jew mistrust in Central Europe that manifested in the 20th century largely originated in the German Unification wars of the 19th century.
more wignat bs considering that Jews were overrepresented in the Austro-Hungarian army in WW1 and were particularly overrepresented in the amount of medals earned for valor.

If, for some reason, the USA and Israel went to war, which side would you be on?
It really depends on the reason for the war. If it's some dumb stuff like Iraq then I wouldn't support it.

Dual loyalties cannot be tolerated or trusted. Simple as.
Look at US history. Up until the civil war, people were more loyal to their states than to the Union and were considered members of their state first, members of the Union second. Look at Robert E Lee who only joined the Confederates because his state of Virginia chose to join the Confederacy. The majority of founding fathers held dual loyalty by your standards.
 
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