Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

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Daniel.com and Gasanova.ua is the designer behind it. Who’ll also sell Ukrainians 1000$ dresses in a supposedly war torn and occupied country.
That's not even a Polo shirt because it has no polo collar.
 
All I'm saying is that if the screencaps are fake and gay, which is plausible but quite an attempt by libshits.

Why ain't the 47th administration just saying it's all fake and there is no super secret group chat.

Instead I'm hearing that there were no leaks in the supposed chat.
Well, there don't appear to be any leaks in the screencaps Goldberg provided, it's just a a chat, and if anything it makes people like Vance and Hegseth look sympathetic since they talk in private the same way they speak to the public. That lends some credence to the theory that it was an intentional leak.

Goldberg originally claimed that there like totally were leaks, trust me bro, but that he can't share them. Apparently he's backpedaling on that now, plus Goldbergsteinowitz is a well known pathological liar, the man is an absolutely disgusting rat.
 
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Trump recently praised his son for being able to turn a laptop on and off.

And now is stating that he stands by Mike Walz, despite allowing Goldberg into some kind of secret group chat.
The group chat did not exist.

When you actually go to look at the evidence, it's just accounts named after the officials along with random photos of their faces.

This is, literally, the same as me changing my Discord name to JD Vance, changing my profile picture, and some dipshit joining a chat and claiming it was actually JD Vance levels of proof.

Hegseth went to Princeton University from 1999-2003, graduated from Harvard Kennedy in 2013.

Mike Waltz is also only 51. He has 4 Bronze Stars and was a counter-terrorism advisor. As much as I actually dislike the idiot for being for the war in Afghanistan as well as serving under Bush and Cheney - this ain't it, chief.

In as much as you want to drag Trump in, he wasn't even in the conversation mentioned and this isn't related to him - your first statement isn't even remotely related to the situation at hand. Mike Waltz and Pete Hegseth aren't technologically illiterate buffoons. Pete went to school recently enough that using a computer was absolutely necessary just for him to go to school and Mike Waltz was working in counter-terrorism and in the Special Forces.

If this was real, even if I were to humor it, then it would have had to been intentional. These two people are, compared to most politicians, relatively young and have worked in positions requiring you to know the basics of security.

This shit is so fake even Tim Pool is calling it out.

Also, late edit: Ask yourself this question.

Which, if any of these people, if any, would have the editor of a left-wing political rag on their contact list to accidentally invite in the first place... which has lawsuits as recently as September 9, 2024 for defamation and having to settle about a story they made up in Japan?
 
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The group chat did not exist.

When you actually go to look at the evidence, it's just accounts named after the officials along with random photos of their faces.
The White House has confirmed that, while no actual war plans were leaked, the texts were genuine
 
The White House has confirmed that, while no actual war plans were leaked, the texts were genuine
Funnily enough, I looked that up.

And sourced it. Notice the misleading title and wording.


White House National Security Council spokesman Brian Hughes shared with ABC News the statement he provided to The Atlantic confirming the veracity of a Signal group chat, which Goldberg said appeared to include Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, Vice President JD Vance, White House national security adviser Mike Waltz and Secretary of State Marco Rubio, among others.

"At this time, the message thread that was reported appears to be authentic, and we are reviewing how an inadvertent number was added to the chain. The thread is a demonstration of the deep and thoughtful policy coordination between senior officials. The ongoing success of the Houthi operation demonstrates that there were no threats to our servicemembers or our national security," Hughes said in the statement.

Note, appears. He never confirmed it. And we have Pete Hegseth himself claiming it wasn't real. So, there's a conflict there. In as much as none of the people there are related TO the NSC who's making a comment on this. This is one of those - who are you going to believe? The Secretary of Defense, himself, or a spokesperson for a different department.

This leads back to my question as to: "Why is was this number here and who had it to accidentally invite? Even in the event it is true?"

I'll admit I -could- be wrong on something. But who, among Trump's team, and WHY would they have The Atlantic? The ATLANTIC - of all news folks - on this list to accidentally invite? And not the owner, but the editor? If this is the case and anything breaks from the Atlantic, then we know who in an administration is leaking shit. Mind you, the Atlantic refused to edit shit to the point they're being brought through court for defamation per se (four counts) with enough evidence a judge didn't dismiss it and had to settle with an entire country over shit they've posted.

Sorry for all the edits, since you can see those. But the point is - if the leak is genuine, they've found who's leaking things to journalists. If it isn't, Goldberg has a lot of explaining to do.
 
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Russia, Ukraine agree to Black Sea ceasefire following US talks​

Subtitle

Kremlin suggests it may not implement Black Sea ceasefire until Russia is admitted back into SWIFT​

Schitzo much? The answer is yes, but what's the point of even doing this?

Nothing was agreed upon or signed during those "technical consultation" talks.
 
Schitzo much? The answer is yes, but what's the point of even doing this?
... Why would Russia want to be allowed to bank and do business with the rest of the world again in order to sell their products, oil, and so on on a much larger scale?

But if you're talking about the journalists and what they're posting, I'd be making a wager that things are in motion, but haven't been put on paper.

Also, Ukraine already broke the last ceasefire by targeting Russian energy infrastructure. Again.

 
But if you're talking about the journalists and what they're posting
That's what I meant, yes. Pretty much contradicting themselves within the title and subtitle.
Resulting in a blatant lie.

Separate US/Ukraine and US/Russia talks happened. And the only publicly available info so far is that khokhols were talking about mineral deal for the umptieth time and russians were talking about the grain deal for the second time. That's it.
 
That's what I meant, yes. Pretty much contradicting themselves within the title and subtitle.
Journalists make shit up for headlines - news at 11.

This is why I'm skeptical about everything going on with the previous stuff I posted. I did minor in journalism for a brief, brief time. When something is scummy enough that I wouldn't consider it for a living, there's a problem. It's a dirty, dirty profession nowadays.

At this point, I'm going between Russia Today, the White House, Fox, and CNN to make sure something's accurate - when all the basic 'facts' line up. It's really bad if you just take one source - or even multiple since it's like some kind of centipede hybrid where if ABC says one thing, another sources ABC, changes the title to something more dastardly, then another takes that title and goes further like a snake eating its own tail.
 
This shit is so fake even Tim Pool is calling it out


If it was a fake leak I'm sure Vance and such would be made to sound like some sort of cartoony villian and there would be a defamation lawsuit in the works. Liberals don't have a good theory of mind so they wouldn't know how to make Vance sound realistic.
 
The group chat did not exist.
I dunno man…. I kinda like the idea of super sekrit WH discord where they call other world leaders “tremendous faggots” and talk about Kaia Kallas’s tits.

WALTZMAN: “We should nuke those Houthi fags. Gawd I hate shitskins”
VANCE666: “CALM DOWN NIGGA! Is there anyone u don’t want to bomb lol”
 
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