US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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I genuinely wonder if trumps second term ends with the same status quo as after his first term, whether or not the right wing will finally realize that when it comes down to it, the leftists may believe crazy shit but their actual tactics are way more effective than ours. People on our side say “J6 was just a guided tour”, and my response is yeah and we got 4 years of joe Biden and all that shit afterwards meanwhile the left is making Elon hurt with what they’re doing.
I doubt it. Normal people won't vote for the party that encouraged the mentally ill to set their grandma's car on fire. The liberals has a veneer of legitimacy before when the news could downplay the bad shit and point out the somewhat decent politicians, but the Democrats have gone full mask off and have purity spiraled to the point that they are actively hostile to any one who can't keep up with their fads.

Like imagine if there was a puppy kicking party and they threatened to kick your puppy if you didn't vote for them (and when they were previously voted in they continued to kick puppies). Why the hell would you vote for them instead of the "arrest the puppy kickers" party?
 
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I doubt it. Normal people won't vote for the party that encouraged the mentally ill to set their grandma's car on fire. The liberals has a veneer of legitimacy before when the news could downplay the bad shit and point out the somewhat decent politicians, but the Democrats have gone full mask off and have purity spiraled to the point that they are actively hostile to any one who can't keep up with their fads.

Like imagine if there was a puppy kicking party and they threatened to kick your puppy if you didn't vote for them (with the implication that they will continue to kick puppies if they are voted in). Why the hell would you vote for them instead of the "arrest the puppy kickers" party?
Voting only does so much. The republicans literally had the biggest win in a decade maybe even two and the left is still able to make musk hurt, not to mention there is no guarantee that republican politicians will be loyal to trump, I mean for fucks sake judges on the Supreme Court that are supposed to be on our side are flipping for the libs
 
Just to add to my point, part of the reason the UK is in the shit it’s in is because the people are too pussy to actually do shit that leftists do and instead just vote conservative as if that changed anything
 
Just to add to my point, part of the reason the UK is in the shit it’s in is because the people are too pussy to actually do shit that leftists do and instead just vote conservative as if that changed anything
Same as anywhere with an apparent two party system (whether actual or (((media))) enforced).
 
I doubt it. Normal people won't vote for the party that encouraged the mentally ill to set their grandma's car on fire. The liberals has a veneer of legitimacy before when the news could downplay the bad shit and point out the somewhat decent politicians, but the Democrats have gone full mask off and have purity spiraled to the point that they are actively hostile to any one who can't keep up with their fads.

Like imagine if there was a puppy kicking party and they threatened to kick your puppy if you didn't vote for them (and when they were previously voted in they continued to kick puppies). Why the hell would you vote for them instead of the "arrest the puppy kickers" party?
You of all people should know that you can just look at the current state of Canada to see how easy it is to whip up retards to forget everything done to them and vote for the Liberal Cause
 
Just to add to my point, part of the reason the UK is in the shit it’s in is because the people are too pussy to actually do shit that leftists do and instead just vote conservative as if that changed anything
Leftists do the shit they do because they have the backing of the government. They communicate through back channels to the government to make sure they have the okay to go burn and destroy whatever it is they have their sights set on, the government agrees not to arrest or prosecute them, and when they engage in mayhem, the government goes, "Oh golly gosh, we have to do this thing we wanted to do, but never had political cover to do, because look how angry those rioters are!"

When you protest and riot against the government, rather than in favor of it, you get what J6ers in the USA got, or what all those people marching against migrant violence in the UK got. You don't get policy changes. You get no-mercy mass arrests, torture, and show trials.
 
Traditionally? You kill their family and friends too. Sin of association.
The traditional answer is that you make it slow and make it hurt.

Even in extreme examples governments annihilating families for crimes is relatively rare. (Annihilating enemy populations during war on the other hand was normally tempered by the value of defeated enemy populations as slaves.)
 
I'm mainly seeing hundreds of articles like "TESLA drops 76%! In sales, last tuesday, in some country you've never heard of called Slovburgmenistan or some shit"
They really desperately wish their terrorism was achieving something
I mean, Tesla is getting hammered in the market. They're going to miss their (downward revised) sales target. They're getting forced out of China by domestic manufacturers and Europe is just straight up not buying their shit now. Both of those issues are very big problems for Tesla, which is, among other things, why Tesla has shed something like 40% of its value YTD. Now a lot of that value is probably going to come back, because a significant amount of that drop panic sales, but we're seeing a real issue where Tesla is starting to see the boundaries of its expansion.

This doesn't even factor in the truck panels falling off and shit.
 
You of all people should know that you can just look at the current state of Canada to see how easy it is to whip up retards to forget everything done to them and vote for the Liberal Cause
Yes but Canadians are extra stupid. And the elections were timed so that the last one was when everyone was making Biden sound like he walked on water, and COVID convinced people that they would die if they stood within 10 feet of their loved ones.
 
It's not the target that matters. It's the purpose and intent of the people committing the acts of violence, destruction or vandalism. If people decide to start firebombing Walmarts nationwide because they want Trump to do X thing and for some reason they think that's the best way to achieve it, they're engaging in domestic terrorism.

It's a very simple definition -- committing violent or destructive crimes with the purpose of forcing political change. Just because not enough of it gets prosecuted doesn't mean it isn't pretty widespread now.
The only thing that actually matters is what a prosecutor thinks can be proven in court. Whether something is terrorism or not is entirely based on the evidence that can be put in front of a jury. That is the only meaningful distinction.
 
Just to add to my point, part of the reason the UK is in the shit it’s in is because the people are too pussy to actually do shit that leftists do and instead just vote conservative as if that changed anything
We have a government that boasted about learning from the Democrats. Followed by a series of high profile 2 tier standards of justice to stir up race riots. afterwards only one side went to jail, the non violent side. just like the lead up to blm and J6.

Any suggestions?
 
It's still terrorism. You're trying to use violence, and the threat of more of it, to get people to do what you want.
And terrorism against democracy doesn't align with the values of the right and the left? People are too good for that? What happened to hating minorities and wanting the hood purged from the nation? Man I love bureaucracy and plutocracy. To get what you want politically you usually don't have many choices beyond engaging with political sitdowns and boring nonsense that won't get you anywhere. Historically, targeted violence and terrorism have been a pretty solid answer to the untenable. Terrorism implies chaos. It has to be more like sabotage which is unlikely to be pulled off.
Our nation was founded by terrorists and honestly people who'd be considered a threat to Democracy.
 
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It's almost like terrorism laws are completely subjective bullshit used to punish whoever the current administration doesn't like. Wow.
You raise an interesting point. Objects and concepts are artificial constructs that only exist because human beings give them value and definition. For example a chair is only a chair because we call it that. To a Russian a chair has almost no value because of the slav squat. Another good example is you (You) have an artificially high value simply for being human instead of being treated as the organic compost you really are.
 
You three faggots seem to be incapable of seeing that I was simply asking a question and want to imply I had expectations by asking that, or asking what my opinion of January 6th was, or that I'm ignorant - yes I probably am ignorant, that's why I'm asking a fucking question.
your questions were asked in such bad faith that either you are working to get a specific response or you’re so autistic you cannot understand general human emotions and motivations. whether or not targeting businesses is terrorism and if arson are violent crimes are simple yes/no questions you could spend five seconds googling and have an answer

i'd be more annoyed by it except i know the reason you can't understand that setting fire to property of an employee of the government to try and get them to change political actions is obviously terrorism is that you're not an american and non-americans have trouble breaking through their programming that terrorism and violence is okay as long as it's against white people
 
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