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That's not something I'm willing to bet a major US city on.
Really, the whole "it's just Israel and Iran" argument is laughable. Does anyone with a room temperature IQ and above think that a nuclear confrontation between the two of them can be safely contained and won't lead to a myriad of highly unpleasant downstream consequences?
 
I am pleased to report that Second-Best Korea is full of freedom-loving American patriots. Many red hats, "Stop the Steal" signs, and Old Glories to be seen at their mostly peaceful protests.
I was just talking to a Korean dude about this, at first I was confused that there were American flags being waved and people wearing red hats that looked like MAGA hats (the hats say something like "against unconstitutional impeachment) for a South Korean President being released.

To be honest, seeing the English text "STOP THE STEAL" in a country that speaks mostly Korean reminded me of that one picture of some progressive protest in a foreign country where the banner has large English text but the native language text is smaller (i.e. probably funded by the West and meant for the West to look at). It might be legit though, this Korean article a friend sent me about Yun's release said over 600 of his supporters showed up to said release.

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Now frankly I don't know much about Korean politics, but from what my friend told me, he said that Yun's political party is a right-leaning party which has similar values to the American right, so if that's true, no wonder Korean Yun supporters like / align with Trump.
 
Israel immediately admitted guilt, apologized, and then paid out tens of millions in restitution. Retards like you never mention the USS Stark incident where 37 sailors were killed by an Iraqi fighter jet shooting 2 missiles at an American ship. Washington later blamed Iran for the incident and maintained it was an accident despite The Joint Chiefs of Staff investigation into the incident recommending that Iraq be held accountable.
Hold the fuck up, I know as fact when iraq hit the USS stark saddams response was immediate and profuse apologies and immediate compensation. A shittily trained pilot in a heavily jury rigged private jet misidentified a ship in a war zone, it was an honest accident. The USS liberty had according to the survivors an israeli reconnaissance plane had spent an extended amount of time above the liberty before the assault started. The prolonged combined arms assault with jets and torpedo boats. The IDF isnt some third world autocracy's mess of a conscript assembly that barely qualifies as a military. And when did israel officially confess and admit guilt for the liberty? Nevermind compensation which frankly is news to me

Americans don't pay for Israel to exist, 3 billion dollars a year in military aid isn't "paying for Israel's existance"
The objective fact of the matter is your existence of a nation is dependent on a combination of the guilt and disproportionate influence israel has over western governments. If foreign aid was cut off would the IDF be able to actually hold its own against the entire region who as an intergenerational grudge against your neocolonial ass?
 
And when did israel officially confess and admit guilt for the liberty? Nevermind compensation which frankly is news to me
Pretty much immediately. You don't know about this because you didn't research it, you just know about the liberty incident due to memes.


. If foreign aid was cut off would the IDF be able to actually hold its own against the entire region who as an intergenerational grudge against your neocolonial ass?
It did twice with very little Western assistance
 
very clearly calling the phrase into question and downplaying it.
Is this really the quote from Tucker that has had you all worked up? He’s completely right, I agree with Tucker 100%. Iran is extremely low on my list of concerns compared to other more pressing shit happening in our country.
 
I care about animals more than I do Russians, deal with it.
TBH I have negative amounts of care about the opinions of people who whine about Jews and Israel. The money we give them immediately gets spent on them buying bombs and shit from us anyways plus it makes a lot of groypers and groyper-adjacent idiots mad
There's pretty much no one who pops out the "brother war" line that isn't some kind of spastic white nationalist retard. WWII Nazis and Russians are no brothers of mine.
Tbh I'm fine with letting the Europeans all murder each other like they are naturally inclined to do without adult supervision. Germany's well on the way to self-Morgenthauing itself anyways.
Russians... below animals.

People who whine about Jews and Israel... negative amounts of care.

Nazis and Russians... not a "brother" in a "brother's war"

Europeans... fine with them murdering each other.

All of them you fucking retard. I may think a substantial number of people on the east and west coasts are idiots but that doesn't mean I want them to die.

East and west coast urbanites... woah there! wishing death is very non-kosher!
 
Pretty much immediately. You don't know about this because you didn't research it, you just know about the liberty incident due to memes.
source your claims
It did twice with very little Western assistance
I dont mean a single war, I mean an extended siege, a siege that rhodesia and south africa fought, a siege where the entire western world turned against them and shattered their economies. Israel has committed similar crimes yet gets a pass. Had they been a different pale skinned ethnic group israel would be a historical note just like the aforementioned
 
source your claims

I dont mean a single war, I mean an extended siege, a siege that rhodesia and south africa fought, a siege where the entire western world turned against them and shattered their economies. Israel has committed similar crimes yet gets a pass. Had they been a different pale skinned ethnic group israel would be a historical note just like the aforementioned
Rhodesia did nothing wrong retard.
 
Rhodesia did nothing wrong retard.
right and wrong are irrelevant. What I mean is the lense in which their actions were viewed by the west at large, in which they were beaten down for their "crimes". In which israel gets a pass, screeching of browns and leftists in the west nonwhithstanding
 
Is this really the quote from Tucker that has had you all worked up? He’s completely right, I agree with Tucker 100%. Iran is extremely low on my list of concerns compared to other more pressing shit happening in our country.
On the topic of other shit happening in the country: I'm actually a bit scared that the Trump administration's crackdown on Mexican cartels might lead to cartels-retaliating with terrorism. I mean, cartels are barbaric & will slaughter random uninvolved civilians solely to send a message (like that town they burned to ground to punish a DEA official).
 
source your claims

State Department spokesman Robert McCloskey announced today that the Government of Israel had paid the full amount claimed by the U.S. Government on behalf of the families of the 34 Americans killed in the June 8, 1967 attack on the U.S.S. Liberty. The intelligence ship was accidentally attacked last June 8. The compensation paid to the U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv on May 27 totalled $3,323,500.


The State Department announced today that United States Government has just received $3,566,457 from Israel in settlement of claims arising from the attack by Israeli jets and torpedo boats on the electronic intelligence ship USS Liberty on June 8,1967 at the height of the Six-Day War. The sum of $3,323,500 was paid by Israel to the U.S. on May 31, 1968 on behalf of the families of 34 men killed in the attack some 13.6 miles off the Sinai coast.


While the Ambassador of Israel has informed the Secretary of State that “the Government of Israel is prepared to make amends for the tragic loss of life and material damage,”


I mean an extended siege, a siege that rhodesia and south africa fought, a siege where the entire western world turned against them and shattered their economies.
Israel went through the same thing from 1948 to 63 when the entire world put it under arms embargoes.

Is this really the quote from Tucker that has had you all worked up? He’s completely right, I agree with Tucker 100%. Iran is extremely low on my list of concerns compared to other more pressing shit happening in our country.
Tucker creates a false dichotomy and apologizes for a government that has sponsored terror cells that kill Americans.. You can care about multiple things at once.
 
Israel went through the same thing from 1948 to 63 when the entire world put it under arms embargoes.
Except during the 50s the UK was a major arms supplier to israel, and in the 60s the US began arming the israelis. Versus Rhodesia a landlocked country who slowly had the entire world turn against it. To my knowledge their supply of fuel was shut off and so that was the final straw on the camels back. Yes israel had garnered the ire of the international community many times in its history but it kept major western powers aiding and supplying it. Rhodesia had near global economic warfare applied to them and south africa was on the chopping block by the time the referendum rolled around

As for your claims of the USS liberty this is new information to me, I will look through it. This does not excuse however what was an operation so well executed that the israelis accidently misidentified the ship, they are too intelligent for that

Edit: From a cursory analysis it seems that the united states foreign aid to israel jumped from the ~20 ish million range in 1967 to ~70 ish million. They returned a nickel and got a dollar in return. Im still parsing the numbers with how fucky foreign aid data can be and with how old it is im digging through old records but again, they came out on top
 
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