US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Libertarianism in America is dead, the LP withdrew their candidate against Trump taking away any credibility they had as an anti establishment party and for what to free one guy who sold drugs online.

Libertarianism in general is dying, as trust erodes in society it is being shown more and more you just need a heavy hand to keep order as seen by Bukele in El Salvador. Economically the modern economy is just more complicated and needs more planning and more things investors can take as given which needs to be guaranteed by the state.

China did everything every libertarian economist swore up and down would not work and guess what it worked great.
Fatpacks you're on your alt
 
it's not a binary though, cheap goods vs expensive.
It actually is. Acquisition cost matters, and very few cheap goods are "actually" more expensive than premium goods.

e.g. a decent, Chinese-made Black & Decker blender is about $40, and an American-made Vitamix is $700. Sure, the B&D will need to be replaced a few times, but not 20 times.

You can get a decent American-made sofa for around $2300. But a $450 cheap import can easily last a decade (source: my $450 sofa turns 10 next year). No, there's not some secret $2000 cost I'm incurring by not having bought an American sofa when I had no money (and when I finally get a good one, total cost will be cheaper than if I'd borrowed money to buy an American sofa).

Once you can go to a big box store and buy crap you don't have to pay someone to make a better version.

You're acting like everyone was buying handcrafted chairs and tailored suits before 1994. Cheap, mass-produced factory goods were driving out artisanal goods in the first half of the 20th century. The era of every chair being an heirloom ended before my Boomer parents were born. That Formica garbage from the 1950s doesn't represent some necessary civilizational skill that we need to recover.
 
Remember when he made video whining about the Electoral College the day before Trump won the popular vote?
Bitching about the EC is the least dumb thing he did. He tried to launch his own little lawfare campaign against Trump, and it never got off the ground. The only thing that is spairing him from being a full fledge lolcow is he doesn't have much of a social media presence.
 
I'd argue it goes back even further.
True.

Reality is, a tariff's a tax. We need some kind of tax to fund the federal government, and if it's one that can be used to make foreign countries deal fairly with us, so be it. But it's not some kind of cost-free economic healing salve. Taxes make things more expensive, full stop, because there's no free lunch.
 
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Only if you include a 6,000 word essay about Lego's economic impact on both the US and Denmark, complete with three sections on tariffs, as well as MLA citations.
Don't forget to have a section address the impact of shifting away from petroleum based plastics and how they plan to absorb the 70% cost increase, while facing a tumultuous US toy market and global economic headwinds.
 
What if instaed of tarrifing each item the company sold, a country kept track of how much was sold in the country by each company then at the end of the year charging the COUNTRY for the percentage of things sold instead of the company?
 
What if instaed of tarrifing each item the company sold, a country kept track of how much was sold in the country by each company then at the end of the year charging the COUNTRY for the percentage of things sold instead of the company?
Good idea, fraud is way too hard to execute right now, that opens up all kinds of new scams
 
Basically, leftists can take your job, groom and molest your children, shit up your neighborhoods, flood your cities with criminal gangs, corrupt your institutions, and destroy the fabric of society, sabotage it at every turn. They can victimize a child who survived brain cancer, but because you say things they don't like, stalker child, it is you who is the monster.
 
Libertarianism in America is dead, the LP withdrew their candidate against Trump taking away any credibility they had as an anti establishment party and for what to free one guy who sold drugs online.

Libertarianism in general is dying, as trust erodes in society it is being shown more and more you just need a heavy hand to keep order as seen by Bukele in El Salvador. Economically the modern economy is just more complicated and needs more planning and more things investors can take as given which needs to be guaranteed by the state.

China did everything every libertarian economist swore up and down would not work and guess what it worked great.
Anyone who praises the Chinese government, its methods, or believes their propaganda isn't worth listening to.
 
My dad is pretty conservative and the other night was raving about Trump withdrawing Ukraine aid, you know the typical "Good, it's not our country so we shouldn't be involved" sort of thing. I tried explaining to him that is a bad thing because it means we are kowtowing to Russia and letting them establish power over us and our allies while simultaneously betraying our other foreign allies, and he looked at me as if I was retarded.

What I don't get is that he's a Gen X'er that grew up during the cold war, he SHOULD understand why this is bad. And what's sad about it is there are many others like him. It's a bit concerning how many people are politically involved yet have no understanding of foreign policy/geopolitics.
Your father is right, retard.
 
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