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Should be a wild four years.

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Hurry, someone give me their hottake on tariffs, I don't think the last 100 pages quite covered it. Surprised the trolls can even spell tarrifs ; )

Spoilers for the next hundred pages or so: Tariffs bad! Nuh-uh <insert kindergarten level of economic thought here> rinse and repeat.
 
This makes sense of why she showed up at the hearing carrying her newborn, when one would imagine such an individual would have nannies and other help perfectly capable of taking care of the child for the duration.

Elizabeth Holmes did the same thing and now she sees her kids once a week on visiting day.
She has three children, husband is a stay-at-home dad. Rep. Anna Paulina Luna told Wu today she was referring Wu, Johnston of Denver and Johnson of Chicago to Pam Bondi for crminal investigation.

 
I would say it's the other way around. Believe President Trump, with nothing to lose, would take the hits/fall, protecting Vice-President Vance as he learns the job and prepares for 28. Suggest Vice-President Vance knows this, which gives him room to learn and make his mistakes now instead of when he is the occupant of the Oval Office. Believe the two of them worked it out early on during the campaign.
Thats why its so funny when people act like Trump will want a 3rd term, he just spent the last 4 years watching Biden slowly rot away and then got shot. Every day he's president is another day he could be out golfing or doing a rally, the shit he enjoys. Trump is 100% going to take whatever falls he needs to to keep Vance pure.

Even the optics are going to make it seem like nothing really changed, Vance is already in the oval office and doing prayer breakfasts and other shit, why would anyone panic if Trump vanishes in 2 or 4 years?
 
I really thought that Trump coming back the insane stuff people said he does or will do would not be around, but people are actually crazier this time. The thing that really gets me is the we must have world war 3 now thinking. Also any action by Trump like tariffs are bad, tariffs by others are good. The number of boycots of us goods is funny by people when its on sites like reddit that are American, with people using american phones and pcs. It has been like 6 weeks, I think alot of people that hate Trump must be the happiest they have ever been in their lives as the hate of Trump is cos a cult, like the women that dress in handmaid cosplay for sexual reasons in public. I do like have this time Trump is just going for it and doing what he said he would, it is great.
In fairness, Trump is also crazier this time.
 
For those who do not know how. When you find a disruptive poster who provides no use in return for the oxygen they breath. Simply click on their user avatar, this will pop out a little square with it and a few options. Hit Ignore.
 
You're smoking that el primo Canadian fent
@John Badman, being presently unavailable, has sent us his understudy for todays performance.

For those who do not know how. When you find a disruptive poster who provides no use in return for the oxygen they breath. Simply click on their user avatar, this will pop out a little square with it and a few options. Hit Ignore.
Ignore buttons are for pussies and shitlibs.
but it is pretty tempting, some days...
 
@John Badman, being presently unavailable, has sent us his understudy for todays performance.


Ignore buttons are for pussies and shitlibs.
but it is pretty tempting, some days...
I find it makes for a quicker viewing of actually good posts. If it's a reply to an ignored account I just rapidly skip over it and the ignored ones don't show at all.

I do use the feature sparingly though. Reserving it for posters who are clearly here just to be disruptive and who lack an interesting bit. Hence why Fatpacks remains.
 
Trump on Monday implemented the largest tariff increase since 1930, abruptly reversing an era of liberalized trade that has prevailed since the end of the Second World War.
You mean the liberalized trade that destroyed the manufacturing base that helped win WW2?

three days after dealing an equally severe blow to the postwar security order that has maintained prosperity and freedom for 80 years.
You mean the security order that gave us Korea, Vietnam, the Cold War, 2 Gulf Wars, the War on Terror, and now completely failed to stop "Russian aggression"?

And our erstwhile friends?
Are just that, erstwhile. The Canadians turned shitting on America into a national pasttime, and we still called them our allies. They had tarriffs and VAT on American goods for years. Either they weren't very good friends, or a reciprocal tarriff doesn't make them "former" friends.

"Trump is blowing up all these status quos that really sucked" is not the winning clapback Democrats think it is.
 
Seems like the Democrats are experiencing a short moment of self-awareness. This is not an op-ed and it has some wise words from John Fetterman.

"Democrats suffer Trump joint address hangover: ‘Self owns and unhinged petulance’" (archive)
Democrats woke up furious the morning after some sought to bring the fight to President Trump during his address Tuesday to a joint session Congress, arguing their protests had backfired and underscored why their party lost November’s election in the first place.

“We never learn,” one Democratic strategist said flatly, feeling deflated by the Democrats’ response.

“We can’t just be the party that barks at Trump, and I’m sorry, but that’s what we are. And until we learn that lesson, we’re going to lose.”

Another strategist was also miffed by the scene that unfolded.

“He owned us,” the strategist said. “He made us look like what we are: f‑‑‑ing buffoons.”

Democrats have been trying to figure out how best to respond to Trump since their November loss, particularly as he aims to reconfigure the federal government. Initially, many in the party said they did not want to repeat their “resistance” strategy during Trump’s first term.

But resistance was on full display during Trump’s marathon speech Tuesday night in the House chamber, where a host of liberal Democrats conducted a variety of protests to highlight their opposition to a president they deem a threat to the country. Some held up signs in support of Medicaid and opposing Elon Musk. Others stood to display “resist” messages on their shirts, then walked silently out of the chamber.

Most remarkably, Rep. Al Green, a 77-year-old Texas Democrat, stood up just minutes into Trump’s speech and heckled the president, his cane waving toward the lectern. When Green ignored entreaties from the House Speaker to “take your seat,” he was ejected from the chamber.

The demonstrations have energized many liberals in the Democrats’ base — a group that’s accused party leaders of being too tepid in the face of Trump’s early blitz of executive actions. But they’ve also infuriated more moderate Democrats on and off Capitol Hill, who fear the headline-churning protests diverted attention away from the controversial policy agenda Trump was trumpeting from the dais.

Sen. John Fetterman (D-Pa.) characterized the protests as “a sad cavalcade of self owns and unhinged petulance.”

“It only makes Trump look more presidential and restrained,” he wrote Wednesday on X.

A third strategist suggested the protest strategy simply didn’t fit the challenge of taking on an unorthodox president, framing it as “a normal playbook for an abnormal time.”

“Democrats must think out of the box in the age of Trump,” the strategist said. “While their legislation options to stop Trump are limited, Democrats can do so much more to shape the public narrative and combat Trump’s avalanche of lies and misinformation.”

The protests, particularly the defiant stand by Green, were precisely the type of thing Democratic leaders had sought to discourage in the days before Trump’s address.

Heading into Tuesday, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) had advised Democratic lawmakers to approach the speech in the way that best fit the sentiments of their districts. For some, that meant boycotting the event. For most others, it meant attending, out of a respect for the tradition, but sitting silently to protest Trump’s message.

Yet Democratic leaders had also cautioned lawmakers not to make waves during the speech, out of concern that the protests would overshadow the content of Trump’s words. In a letter to his troops Monday, Jeffries advocated the importance of having “a strong, determined and dignified Democratic presence in the chamber.”

Other lawmakers interpreted his message plainly: Don’t make it about you.

Green’s protest defied that advice and created a dilemma for Democratic leaders, who have a long history of criticizing Republicans for outbursts during State of the Union speeches delivered by Democratic presidents.

On Wednesday, Jeffries defended the conduct of the “majority” of his caucus during Trump’s speech but declined to weigh in on the smaller group that had protested.

“[An] overwhelming majority of House Democrats approached the speech with the seriousness that it deserved on behalf of the American people,” Jeffries said.

Still, Democratic leaders were clearly frustrated that the protests had stolen some of the headlines from Trump’s speech. And they fought Wednesday to bring the focus back to the central designs of the president’s policy agenda, not least the cost-slashing efforts of Musk and the Department of Government Efficiency.

Rep. Katherine Clark (Mass.), the Democratic whip, acknowledged decorum “is important.” But she was incredulous that Republicans could be outraged over demonstrations opposing cuts to Medicaid, education and medical research, but not over the cuts themselves.

“[Trump] has come in with an unelected — richest man on Earth — and taken a chainsaw to everything we care about. … It is a betrayal,” Clark said.

“So let’s not talk about decorum when the plot is exposed and reiterated every single day,” she continued. “You take people’s health care, you take our veterans’ benefits, you take funding from our public schools. And you do it all — all of it — to give a tax cut to the very wealthiest people who won’t even notice it, but whose greed knows no bounds.”

While Democrats are fighting to move beyond the controversy surrounding Tuesday’s protests, Republicans are hoping to stretch it out as long as possible.

By the time Trump’s speech had ended late Tuesday night, a host of Republicans — including members of the conservative Freedom Caucus — were vowing to push resolutions to censure Green for disrupting the event. And Wednesday, Rep. Dan Newhouse (R-Wash.) introduced such a bill, which accuses Green of “a breach of proper conduct.”

The House is expected to vote on the measure Thursday. Green, though, says the discipline is a small price to pay for the message he sent.

“It’s worth it to let people know that there are some people who are going to stand up [to Trump],” Green said.
PS: Katherine Clark is a carpetbagging cunt from Connecticut and I hope she steps on a dirty needle in Melrose.
 
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