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That shtick is only going to work for the guys with moobs and obvious bolt-ons. The rest will cry for to being validated. lol, I just though of something. What if this was also some 4D long game to get jailed in women's facilities too (if this is not already expressed or implied, don't care to be irritated so early) but they get Uno-reversed and put in big boy lockup?
Reminds of this troon. He's probably hoping gets to go to a woman's prison soon.
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They've started acknowledging it in some academic papers and texts, actually. The argument is now becoming that it's a matter of bodily autonomy not of treating a condition, therefore we should provide gender affirming care to people even if it makes them worse. The comparison point they've been drawing is we give women abortions because they don't want to be pregnant, not because it'll help them with any distress they're experiencing, and even if they may regret aborting that baby. Despite that not even actually being the way abortions are handled in many countries.

At least one paper is suggesting this precisely because the multidisciplinary team are noticing that the stats are starting to show the original justification doesn't hold up, so they're saying the narrative of "gender affirming care helps relieve the suffering of gender dysphoric people" is wrong because that group weren't necessarily suffering, don't meet a clinical threshold and may end up worse afterwards... so we need to view it through a different lens.
I just saw an article about that paper and posted it in the scientific studies thread! I doubt it'll change much in the way gender dysphoria or body dysmorphia is treated, though. These people will ree until they get exactly what they want, even if they come to find out it was a horrible mistake.
 
Anyone want their blood boiling...? Anyone?
I don't know, man. How do people cope with this type of corruption? In other countries, people have it way worse I know. But what's the key to living a fulfilling life when dealing with this level of absurdity? Is the solution to block it all out and remain hopeful? Because absurdity like this is seemingly inescapable no matter the time period, there's always some level of insanity going on with each generation.
It gets to me though, its depressing. Its uncanny not having any spaces where these people havent invested it too. Its like trying to ignore one giant elephant in the room except that elephant is a violent sexual predator no one wants to point out in fear of being trampled.

The comparison point they've been drawing is we give women abortions because they don't want to be pregnant, not because it'll help them with any distress they're experiencing, and even if they may regret aborting that baby. Despite that not even actually being the way abortions are handled in many countries.
How does that make sense as a comparison? No woman gets an abortion because she isn't distressed. How does "doesn't want to be pregnant" mean nothing to these people? No way anyone who knows basic female biology can sit here and act like abortions are causal and easy, that pregnancy is this nothingburger to the female body, same with abortion.
I don't know a single country that acts like abortion / pregnancy isn't inherently life altering and stressful. I know pro choice people make it seem like it's nothing but the people saying that are literal cluster B zero empathy schizos who are the vocal minority.
Also think of the potential child when it comes to pregnancy. Rape babies, poverty, no parents. Foster care sucks. Even pro life people can admit that in severe cases abortion could be needed. It's not mere bodily autonomy.

If these people wanna argue about "bodily autonomy" when it comes to mutilation just because the person wants to be mutilated (even though thats not the case, they think the mutilation isnt mutilation) then make everything legal then. Meth, steroids, heroin. Lets bring back putting cocaine in Coca Cola. Lobotomies too. Let's make all this legal and give doctors permission to prescribe these things to people because if a person wants it, thats their "bodily autonomy.". Why do these people think all of this was made illegal in the first place?

My God these people are the same people who think drugs were made illegal for no reason. Look at the areas that legalized drugs, notice how no one magically got better lol
 
All it did was make me temporarily homophobic. Going from a peaceful lunch to being surrounded by men humping one another (and yes, it was suppposed to be only about kissing but there was definitely a fuckload of dry-humping) while someone yelled through a megaphone about "LOVE ALWAYS WINS, WE'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE" did not endear me to the cause on any level.

I remember them screaming how no one would be mad if it was straight couples doing it instead of men and one single lesbian couple, except I would, in fact, have been exactly as mad no matter the configuration. Obnoxious shit is obnoxious no matter who is doing it.
Sexuality and sexual attraction is inherently a private thing that happens between individuals. I don't understand why anyone needs to be loud or in your face about it. I would be disgusted if straight people did this to me. They don't in fact ever do that, and if they do, they should also be shamed.

Now if someone is out with their same-sex partner doing mild acceptable PDA like hugging and holding hands or a kiss that is just a peck, that seems okay to me. Essentially keep it PG and family-friendly in public. No one cares about your sexual interests where there could be children around. That goes for anyone of any sexuality, and definitely includes any fetish interests, even those assholes that wear dog collars. Fucking Timmy doesn't need to be asking his dad why you are wearing a collar or a BDSM harness in public.
 
How does that make sense as a comparison? No woman gets an abortion because she isn't distressed. How does "doesn't want to be pregnant" mean nothing to these people?
That particular argument was first published in 2022 in the Kennedy Institute of Ethics Journal - "Adolescent Medical Transition is Ethical: An Analogy with Reproductive Health". It's been getting cited in a few places since.
In this article, I argue that adolescent medical transition is ethical by analogizing it to abortion and birth control. The interventions are similar
insofar as they intervene on healthy physiological states by reason of the person’s fundamental self-conception and desired life, and their effectiveness is defined by their ability to achieve patients’ embodiment goals.
Author is a Canadian troon and lawyer. Basically they're saying a woman (actually in this case, girl) saying "I don't want to be pregnant" is not assessed to see if she's distressed enough to have an abortion or how measurably her wellbeing improves post procedure, or if she will regret the abortion. Instead it's acknowledged that she wants to change her physiological state to "not pregnant" and that's enough - her body, her choice.
Again, that's not how abortion actually goes in many places (the UK requires two doctors to sign off that she is distressed) and more fundamentally is very obviously NOT THE SAME THING, but the idea of "right to self autonomy even if it doesn't help you and you regret it" over "a treatment for an illness" as the model for trans healthcare has been getting pushed more since.
 
actually in this case, girl
"I argue that adolescent medical transition is ethical by analogizing it to abortion and birth control"

So this guy a literal pedophile who's most likely in the process of preying on kids as I type this. This is just advocating for pedophilia. I thought when you first post that, you were talking about adult woman. But a literal fucking child? Yoo, someone dox this person right now, what the fuck?
is not assessed to see if she's distressed enough to have an abortion
Nevermind the doctor stuff, she's a fucking CHILD.
This is literally the exact same argument pedophiles use when talking about how stressful it is for kids to be groomed, by arguing some kids aren't negatively affected by it and that kids should have the right to decide if they want to get with an adult.
This is the "bodily autonomy" he's referring to, in regards to literal children.
 
some people are calling her transphobic for saying sir by accident when her adrenaline is pumping from this man yelling at her. Good lord. This is really what we are worried about? Someone being misgendered when the woman is afraid for her life?

Good let her be called transphobic, she needs to learn this is the cult she’s voting for and these are the people who will eat you alive for a single instance of not adhering to the Great Delusion. She needs to learn that they want a world where SHE would’ve been charged for assaulting HIM, both physically and by misgendering “her”, and she’s indirectly supporting that world coming to fruition. Assuming she’s in US Trump isn’t perfect but he’s the only candidate who’s willing to speak out, and push back, against their tyranny and the Cult of Troonism

In a sane world it should be 100% legal to kill men like him, in fact there should be a government incentive for culling freaks like him out of our society perhaps 41% of their wealth goes to whoever can claim the bounty
 
Why do these "gender affirmed women" not shave their fucking face. I mean, the answer is obviously attention or being non committal and just wanting to play dress up.

Still, if you're going to pretend to be a woman, pretend a little harder and shave your lumberjack beard.
 
Must not fedpost, must not fedpost...

I'm not an overly religious person but I have to believe every ghoul involved in this situation and situations like it across the country will burn in hell. There really are demons among us.

Whatever happened to correctional facilities putting all the fags and troons in their own ward?

I remember watching a documentary awhile back about LA county's homo cellblock. This one from 10 years ago isn't the exact one but talks about it:


LOL at the one guy in there who's obviously not a fag and just pretending so he doesn't have to be in gen pop with the super rapey niggas.

Let them rape each other in their fag wards idc. Some of them enjoy that. And it keeps them safe from the gay-for-the-stay big Bubbas on the yard who will tear their assholes up (no homo).

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I can't quote Vott's post but:
In which 'Alice' here fantasies that conservatives voted for Trump in order to see 'tgirls' topless at the beach (it isn't clear to me why Trump would enable this more than Harris would've).

And conservatives will need to explain to 'Brad' why some "men" have "tatas". I would like to let 'Alice' know exactly what I would say to Brad:

Some men have gynecomastia, and they're usually embarrassed about it. Those men aren't trying to look like women. Some other men purposely take wrong-sex hormones so that they develop breasts, because they have a mental illness and wish to deceive themselves and others that they are women.
 
In which 'Alice' here fantasies that conservatives voted for Trump in order to see 'tgirls' topless at the beach (it isn't clear to me why Trump would enable this more than Harris would've).
It's because their IDs are getting made to say "M" instead of "F", so the argument is that if they're men then they're not engaged in public indecency if they're topless, since American obscenity ordinances typically only specify "the female breast".

I'm not particularly familiar with the nuances of American law, but if it's anything like the UK they'd probably still get nicked if it can be argued they're doing something deliberately to cause alarm or distress ("but officer since my license says M what's the big deal?" isn't likely to result in a positive outcome). In Littleton v Prange (1999) there was the following judgement:
Through surgery and hormones, a transsexual male can be made to look like a woman, including female genitalia and breasts . . . . [But] [t]he male chromosomes do not change with either hormonal treatment or sex reassignment surgery. Biologically a post-operative [sic] female transsexual is still a male . . . . Her female anatomy, however, is all manmade
So I think there's probably enough precedent through appeals rulings, at least in some states, where the law is capable of considering there being a man with "female breasts". The lawfare's not watertight and given how Trump's been with his executive orders I think it'd be pretty dumb for them to try and "well ackshually" their way out of a potentially dangerous situation like this.
 
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Wow, I was hoping he'd be the one democrat who wouldn't fall for this nonsense. What happened?
Nah. Hoodie Fetterboy is still a “think of the vulnerable troon children” warm and squishy Donkey. And never forget he’s from Pennsyl-Transylvania, home of Dickie Levine. (And who was their state Sec of Health, before going big time with Biden, FFS.)
 
Must not fedpost, must not fedpost...

I'm not an overly religious person but I have to believe every ghoul involved in this situation and situations like it across the country will burn in hell. There really are demons among us.

Whatever happened to correctional facilities putting all the fags and troons in their own ward?

I remember watching a documentary awhile back about LA county's homo cellblock. This one from 10 years ago isn't the exact one but talks about it:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=2thDt4twxww
LOL at the one guy in there who's obviously not a fag and just pretending so he doesn't have to be in gen pop with the super rapey niggas.

Let them rape each other in their fag wards idc. Some of them enjoy that. And it keeps them safe from the gay-for-the-stay big Bubbas on the yard who will tear their assholes up (no homo).

Edit: autocorrect mishap on a word
The Farms have probably single-handedly brought me closer to Christ than in any other point in my life. 😂 there can’t be this level of evil IRL without the opposite being true.

I had to resist the urge to A-log everyone involved.
 
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Wow, I was hoping he'd be the one democrat who wouldn't fall for this nonsense. What happened?
So... "They/Them" is dehumanizing now? I though it was encouraged!

The Farms have probably single-handedly brought me closer to Christ than in any other point in my life. 😂 there can’t be this level of evil IRL without the opposite being true.
Oof... I have to agree, even if im not religious.
 
The argument is now becoming that it's a matter of bodily autonomy not of treating a condition, therefore we should provide gender affirming care to people even if it makes them worse. The comparison point they've been drawing is we give women abortions because they don't want to be pregnant, not because it'll help them with any distress they're experiencing, and even if they may regret aborting that baby
Medicine as service industry: you blindly do what the paying client demands. You are not a "professional" and do not deserve the respect due to a professional.
 
Medicine as service industry: you blindly do what the paying client demands. You are not a "professional" and do not deserve the respect due to a professional.
It's a weird contradiction, if you're a smoker or fat, no matter the issue, you'll be told stop smoking/lose weight, and basically gatekeep treatment, but say you want to disfigure yourself, and no questions asked, no deep psychological evaluation, here's your tittie skittles and off you go.
 
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