US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Do any of you idiots know what a stick and carrot actually is? You put the carrot on a stick like bait on a fishing rod, it isn't you fucking beating someone with it.

This is a carrot on a stick, not that stupid butchering of the statement Obama did
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moocow dijo:
Sure would be nice if those of us not leaning on public assistance could enjoy that hefty discount too. Then again not being lazy has never paid very well in this country (in my lifetime anyway).
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For what it's worth, it's not that they get a flat discount it's that money from things like USDA and state grants are "matching" what's provided by SNAP.
If it were a flat discount, it would hurt the local farmers they're buying from.
Instead it's almost like a state subsidy to support local farmers and producers by funneling people on SNAP towards them.
The discount you get is it should help make people on food stamps healthier which means less burden on the national health system.
The other route would be flat banning things like junk food, while this is more carrot over stick by incentivizing buying whole local food over buying something else.
 
Debbie Macomber dijo:
People saying the $5000 for every taxpayer should go to the debt is missing the point, it makes the money real

You can tell people "We saved $5000 worth for every taxpayer" but if the money doesn't hit your account, do you give a shit? Especially if it gets reinvested in the debt, so for the individual, everything goes on the same as if $0 were saved?
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Can somebody cite the source of where Trump or Elon said $5000 would come back to the taxpayer? I don't want to be THAT guy and misunderstand or hold somebody to something they didn't even say.
 
MrJokerRager dijo:
Elon Musk helping the Don out.

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One of the weirdest parts of the exposing of USAID and the shadow networks of NGOs spreading chaos on the American dime is the revelation that Gonzalo Lira was entirely correct when he called a room of Ukrainian journalists "system pigs" for being paid to spread propaganda.

Maybe he really was killed by Ukraine (or they intentionally let him die, more likely).
 
Tim the Tranny dijo:
Hi, I would love $5000 but this is a bad idea. We should be aiming to reduce the national debt so that we can, in the long term, sustain our country without a mountain of interest staring us in the face, while also lowering individual taxes.

Blowing billions on a “we’re sorry” isn’t the way to do it. Put it into infrastructure, the economy, etc. and let the $5000 end up in my pocket over the long term.
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Could I have your $5K then? I could buy a lot of old movies, maybe even set up a home theatre with lots of pin-ups.
 
The Last Stand dijo:
What would you use your $5000 on, hypothetically? Anybody could answer this.
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Some renovations for my parents home, likely towards renovating their master bathroom.

The more I think about it the more I prefer getting the $5,000 back. Why? It's a number not big enough to completely splurge on, but it's that right amount to get something you wanted to start going. In many cases this is construction or white goods. And this is an easy way for construction and HVAC to basically offset the initial pain of having to hire and pay more for legal work and even as prices change due to things moving back to American manufacturing. The money can't be like Kamablah's stupid 25k home credit which would just raise the prices of every home 25k, so companies would still have to compete on quality and price, but you're going to have less resistance from people when they have an extra 5,000 to get the roof done, or a new AC unit installed, etc. The customer won't be such a bitch, and the contractor won't be such a cost cutting cheap faggot (except if you live in california they'll just cut 1 less corner)
 
he who has thus come/gone dijo:
One of the weirdest parts of the exposing of USAID and the shadow networks of NGOs spreading chaos on the American dime is the revelation that Gonzalo Lira was entirely correct when he called a room of Ukrainian journalists "system pigs" for being paid to spread propaganda.

Maybe he really was killed by Ukraine (or they intentionally let him die, more likely).
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Dude, he was in Kiev streaming in a hotel lobby talking all kinds of shit about the Ukrainians, and the police talked to him and told him to keep his fucking head down.

What did he do? He went to fucking Kharkiv, which was on the front line. He did everything he could to raise red flags, if I was a Ukrainian I would have kicked his ribs in myself.

Gonzalo Lira committed suicide for clicks
 
The Last Stand dijo:
Can somebody cite the source of where Trump or Elon said $5000 would come back to the taxpayer? I don't want to be THAT guy and misunderstand or hold somebody to something they didn't even say.
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Here: there was an earlier post iirc as well as one which just the video uploaded to the forums.
COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST dijo:
President Trump and evil nazi Elon Musk are considering sending everybody $5000 checks as an apology for all the fraud they've found in government.
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Amelia Troonheart dijo:
Pay off the last bit of my medical debt then security deposit on a bigger place in a cheaper area so my family can simultaneously grow and more quickly save for a house.
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In all seriously, that $5000 could help with my student loan debt and I could put the rest away in savings. Actually, you know what? That could be a vacation fund to travel somewhere for a couple days.
 
he who has thus come/gone dijo:
One of the weirdest parts of the exposing of USAID and the shadow networks of NGOs spreading chaos on the American dime is the revelation that Gonzalo Lira was entirely correct when he called a room of Ukrainian journalists "system pigs" for being paid to spread propaganda.
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He was never wrong. Early in the Ukraine conflict, the U.S. federal government ramped up the astroturfing to levels never seen before.
 
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