US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Doesn't matter who is "in charge". I could take DOGE down in a week with a poorly constructed AI sexbot judging by the calibre of the kids he has working there. He ain't working with the best and brightest
Yeah? That's great. I'm sure you're a master hacker with 20 years of experience, 7 years at Blizzard, your mage runs blizzard specifically for conversations like this, but, you're here and not helping. Appreciate the larp though
 
I'm always hopeful because of how small a slice of time we actually live in and are going through. I think Germany has always had rather asinine free speech laws which have escalating in severity in the new century, but even when things were rather shit for individual freedoms, there was never actually anything to complain about yet that'd warrant them coming down hard on dissenting opinions. I can only really use the UK as an example, but our ass-backwards free speech laws only came about in 2007 and we only lost our right to guns in '97. If things can snap into totalitarianism that fast, I'm happy to assume things can snap into something better just as quickly. How shit did the late Obama and Biden eras feel, and then as soon as Trump's in office things are happening at breakneck speeds. I think with pressure from Trump and Vance, I think things are looking up. 2030s will be the best decade for Europe and America, I can feel it.
I like your optimism.
One thing that needs to change: young people need to be able to afford to rent or buy a home, and be able to marry and have kids.
What is the point of working hard if the next generation will have it worse than you?
It's so selfish. I don't even have kids, but I WANT them to enjoy a better life.
 
yes they do. the bill of rights applies to everyone here. the 5th explicitly says its right applies to to everyone.
When someone is convicted of a jailable offense, they often lose their rights. A violent felon is denied the right to bear arms, for example.

An incarcerated convict who is a lifelong citizen does not have the right to liberty. What makes you think someone illegally entering the US is entitled to rights that that person doesn't even have access to?
 
I'm morbidly entertained by the catastrophizing I'm seeing in my lefty circles. It's the same shit it was last time the Dark Lord was president. When old corpse Biden was in charge, I recall things like "what an idiotic decision, we're going to see rising fuel prices for that" or "pandering to troons, what the hell has the world come to".

Libs, not to be outdone:
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Look at all the people who are going to DIE in NUCLEAR HELLFIRE! It's always theater kid dramaposting with these people.
Idiots. This isn't the 70's and 80's where we really were terrified of nuclear war.
Same in the 60's too.
 
I like your optimism.
One thing that needs to change: young people need to be able to afford to rent or buy a home, and be able to marry and have kids.
What is the point of working hard if the next generation will have it worse than you?
It's so selfish. I don't even have kids, but I WANT them to enjoy a better life.
I know its not likely to happen with this administration, but I want so badly for the Trump team to go after private equity and fuck them up for what they've done to housing.
 
None of these zoomer fucks are supergenuises they are just the public front of what was likely decades of research behind the scenes.

I refuse to believe 6 20 year olds dismantled the most elaborate dark money funding operation in history in 48 hours.
The "DOGE team" is just a group of fresh eyes and analysts that actually work with department employees for the department they are auditing. When DOGE shows up, they pick a team made of up existing members of the organization. When "DOGE has access to..." whatever system, its that departments assigned DOGE "liasons" or "task" members. These are people who have always had access to these systems. They are required to get the data for the DOGE analysts.

The media ignores this because its more sensational to say "Elon Musk now has access to all your tax information!".

I suspect the reason they are getting such big results so quickly is in the department members they are choosing to be part of their particular task force already know the ins and outs, and are already inclined to wanting to bring the fraud and waste in check but couldn't do anything until now. I imagine them as real life Ron Swansons, who finally get to be on the board for slashing the budget. For instance theres probably a database guy working at social security who's been screaming for years "hey the data has 1000 people over 200 years old. this datas fucked..." and no one wants to address it.

It is not just a handful of geniuses. Sure they might be some data and process autists helping lead some of initiatives, but most of the work is being done existing government department members, at the direction and oversite of DOGE.
 
Does anybody know anything about the person up for vice-Sec of Education? like, Assistant To Linda Mac?
some talk show I caught yesterday they had on a gal who was going the FUCK off about the nominee like it was a dozen holocausts if they get in

I person don't really care that he has kids out of wedlock or whatever.
I heard somebody call in to a show yesterday trying to concern troll his fellow conservatives about Elon's ninety eighth cunt turd and was promptly shut down. Sounded like the same putz who calls in to hello fellow conservatives at whatever we're supposed to be made about .

Well I know who's gonna definitely be on the hook for Reparations now!
I might steal this joke.
I don't believe for a second he wrote all of firefly.
yeah it was called Outlaw Star and was a shitload better with cool guns, muscle catgirls, and spaceships with arms
 
I refuse to believe 6 20 year olds dismantled the most elaborate dark money funding operation in history in 48 hours.
who's saying they dismantled it. they're just people who aren't engaged in the swamp looking at it with new eyes and saying "yeah here's your problem." and then the executive branch is taking steps to address those problems when they're identified. do people actually know anything about the process doge is going through?
 
The "DOGE team" is just a group of fresh eyes and analysts that actually work with department employees for the department they are auditing. When DOGE shows up, they pick a team made of up existing members of the organization. When "DOGE has access to..." whatever system, its that departments assigned DOGE "liasons" or "task" members. These are people who have always had access to these systems. They are required to get the data for the DOGE analysts.

The media ignores this because its more sensational to say "Elon Musk now has access to all your tax information!".

I suspect the reason they are getting such big results so quickly is in the department members they are choosing to be part of their particular task force already know the ins and outs, and are already inclined to wanting to bring the fraud and waste in check but couldn't do anything until now. I imagine them as real life Ron Swansons, who finally get to be on the board for slashing the budget. For instance theres probably a database guy working at social security who's been screaming for years "hey the data has 1000 people over 200 years old. this datas fucked..." and no one wants to address it.

It is not just a handful of geniuses. Sure they might be some data and process autists helping lead some of initiatives, but most of the work is being done existing government department members, at the direction and oversite of DOGE.
Thank you for explaining this in-depth. People are so brain broken today they think it's like a movie where they all roll in with dark sunglasses then montage their way through trillions of dollars in records
 
who's saying they dismantled it. they're just people who aren't engaged in the swamp looking at it with new eyes and saying "yeah here's your problem." and then the executive branch is taking steps to address those problems when they're identified. do people actually know anything about the process doge is going through?
I love how the disbelief comes off after translation

“Yeah right, like a bunch of 20 year olds used computers to look at numbers, chuckle snort Reddit”
 
I suspect the reason they are getting such big results so quickly is in the department members they are choosing to be part of their particular task force already know the ins and outs, and are already inclined to wanting to bring the fraud and waste in check but couldn't do anything until now.
Nail on the head. What you're talking about is the genuine "public servants" everyone is hand wringing about. Most, and I do mean most, of the federal workforce is made up of these types, just the day in day outers, the career nine to fivers trying to make the behemoth that is the federal government chug along another day. New boss shows up, says "we're doing audits, we want to cut waste and reign in spending, and we want to see your numbers," and these guys diligently get their files together and write their reports and submit ideas on where to trim the fat, because that's what the duly elected President of the United States wants done, and it's the right thing to do.

I'm sure most of us here have worked for some godless megacorp that does things in the most retarded manner, and we all had ideas on how to make it more efficient, but didn't bother to say anything because it's just pissing in the wind. The government is no different. I imagine there's probably a lot of the rank and file that are genuinely excited to see their ideas for streamlining taken seriously.
 
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