Chinese Carrier Group Crosses into West Pacific - Uh Oh
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- 25 de Sep, 2014
Seems routine to me.
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- 25 de Mayo, 2015
It's saber rattling at Taiwan because of Trump, imho.
The Liaoning was actually kept in shape by the Ukrainian navy for potential buyers before China jewed their way into acquiring it and refitting it, so it's in better shape than the other existing example of it's class.
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- 25 de Sep, 2014
Doesn't surprise me plenty.
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- 4 de Feb, 2014
kek fukken gookz gunna sink der assez n perl harbur 2
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- 14 de Nov, 2012
It's not over Taiwan, it's over Japan. I follow Chinese state media and they are livid about a speech that the Japanese prime minister gave honoring what they described as being international war criminals responsible for the genocide of 110 million Chinese nationals during World War 2. The Chinese are still demanding "1000 trillion dollars" in reparations for the damage done.
http://en.people.cn/n3/2016/1231/c90000-9161401.html
http://en.people.cn/n3/2016/1231/c90000-9161401.html
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- 14 de Oct, 2015
And if shit starts, all of our carrier battle groups are in port. All of them, for the first time since before WWII.
Thankfully the world is a haven of peace and nothing will happen.
Thankfully the world is a haven of peace and nothing will happen.
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- 1 de Feb, 2015
Chinese carrier is no threat until they gain operational experience. This is obviously a shakedown cruise of some sort to practice flight operations. They have no prior experience operating their carrier so far out in blue water, so they are getting practice and sabre rattling at the same time, no chance they will do anything rash.
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- 6 de Nov, 2014
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- 9 de Mar, 2015
Regardless I agree, it would be nothing cuter than passing them by with a smile and wave from a Ford Class.
Honestly the timing was perfect with our shit all in port. Because the election and all other factors this was the perfect time. When you think about it you really can't blame China for doing so, we'd have done the same in those shoes.
Also
>retired slav shit
>ramp
>gas burning
carrier
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- 23 de Mar, 2016
This, sabre rattling at its finest.
Though the route they picked is quite telling:
They went through the Miyako Strait, which is to the northeast of the island labeled "Miyakojima" and between the other one, which is Okinawa.
Not only does that mean the chinese carrier group drove right through the japanese Prefecture of Okinawa, but also it passed within spitting distance to the US base on said island.
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- 29 de Mayo, 2015
However, there was a treaty in the 1970s that, as part of the terms, would prevent China from getting reparations for all the genocidal Japanese war criminals of WWII. There is also a precedent that people who try to sue for their family being murdered by the Japanese germ warfare not getting any compensation due to that treaty.
They would need to rewrite it, amend it, or abolish it before the Japanese government would agree to anything like that, most likely. And, given the two countries, I doubt that would end well.
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- 23 de Mar, 2016
The treaty you mention is the "Joint Communique of the Government of Japan and the Government of the People's Republic of China" from 1972: link
Japan, however, did pay vast amounts of money to China, which was labelled "official development assistance", but was essentially reparations. Japan also heavily invested into China both in terms of technology as well as know-how:
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Though both sides, Japan and China, have their own self-serving versions of how to view and treat these things.
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- 12 de Jul, 2015
And we've got at least two or three SSN's following its every step, getting data on engine noise and speed, along with other performance. It's still old slavshit.
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- 23 de Mar, 2016
The most interesting thing about the carrier is what it's got on its deck, I assume.
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- 12 de Jul, 2015
We already know what they do though - J-15's, basically an Su-33 clone.
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- 23 de Mar, 2016
The technical specifics might still be interesting, since China most likely has changed or adapted different technologies into the J-15.
Just like Japan and their F-16s with overhauled avionics.
But, then again, whatever any onlooker might do, as long as the planes aren't airborne, it's hard to tell what they are capable of.
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- 6 de Nov, 2014
If they got good enough camaras, they may be able to see armament changes, but yeah the avionics part would be harder to guess I think.
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- 9 de Mar, 2015
With the amounts of pro/anti propaganda going from all sides and angles, until I see one of those things fly in shit weather do I think they have got a decent all weather system. China has learned from the masters (USSR) about how to paper tiger shit. I don't mean it as lol china sucks but, they can crank out a lot of stuff that's half as good as they claim that still gets dangerous.
I've read a lot of stuff on the "carrier" is kinda rip offs of stuff they stole from Russia and retro engineered since when the sale happened they ripped guts out.
Only one country has gear enough they are thinking of throwing out the AEGIS system for better.
I've read a lot of stuff on the "carrier" is kinda rip offs of stuff they stole from Russia and retro engineered since when the sale happened they ripped guts out.
Only one country has gear enough they are thinking of throwing out the AEGIS system for better.