Opinion The American Global Order Could End - GOOD.

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Americans voted for change in this week’s presidential election, and in foreign policy, they’ll certainly get it. Donald Trump has shown disdain for the priorities and precedents that have traditionally guided Washington’s approach to the world. He speaks more fondly of America’s autocratic adversaries than of its democratic allies. He derides “globalism” as a liberal conspiracy against the American people. And he treats international agreements as little more than wastepaper.

At stake is not only the survival of Ukraine and the fate of Gaza, but the entire international system that forms the foundation of American global power. That system is built upon American military might, but more than that, it is rooted in relationships and ideals—nations with shared values coming together under U.S. leadership to deter authoritarian aggression and uphold democracy. The resulting world order may be badly flawed and prone to error, but it has also generally preserved global stability since the end of World War II.

Despite its endurance, this system is fragile. It is sustained by an American promise to hold firm to its commitments and ensure collective defense. Trump threatens that promise. His plan to impose high tariffs on all imports could disrupt the liberal economic order on which many American factories and farmers (and Trump’s billionaire buddies) rely. His apparent willingness to sacrifice Ukraine to Russian President Vladimir Putin in some misguided pursuit of peace will strain the Atlantic alliance and undermine security in Europe. By signaling that he won’t defend Taiwan from a Chinese invasion, he could undercut confidence in the United States throughout Asia and make a regional war more likely.

The American global order could end. This would not be a matter of “American decline.” The U.S. economy will likely remain the world’s largest and most important for the foreseeable future. But if Washington breaks its promises, or even if its allies and enemies believe it has or will—or if it fails to uphold democracy and rule of law at home—the pillars of the American international system will collapse, and the United States will suffer an immeasurable loss of global influence and prestige.

The risk that this will happen has been gathering for some time. George W. Bush’s unilateralist War on Terror strained the international system. So did Trump’s disputes with NATO and other close allies during his first term. But world leaders could write off Washington’s wavering as temporary deviations from what has been a relatively consistent approach to foreign policy over decades. They understand the changeability of American politics. In four years, there will be another election and a new administration may restore Washington’s usual priorities.

With Trump’s reelection, however, the aberration has become the new normal. The American people have told the world that they no longer wish to support an American-led world order. They have chosen U.S. policy makers who promise to focus on the home front instead of on the troubles of ungrateful allies. Maybe they’ve concluded that the United States has expended too many lives and too much money on fruitless foreign adventures, such as those in Vietnam and Afghanistan. And maybe now America will reassess its priorities in light of new threats, most of all China, and the potential burden of meeting them.

The problem is that if the United States won’t lead the world, some other country will, and a number are already applying for the job. One is Putin’s Russia. Another is the China of Xi Jinping.

China began to assert its global leadership more aggressively during Trump’s first term and has worked ever harder to undermine the American system since—strengthening China’s ties with Russia and other authoritarian states, building a coalition to counterbalance the West, and promoting illiberal principles for a reformed world order. Trump seems to believe that he can keep China in check with his personal charm alone. When asked in a recent interview whether he would intervene militarily if Xi blockaded Taiwan, he responded, “I wouldn’t have to, because he respects me.”

That’s narcissism, not deterrence. More likely, Putin and Xi will take advantage of Trump’s disinterest. Once appeased in Ukraine, Putin may very well rebuild his army with the help of China, North Korea, and Iran, and then move on to his next victim—say, Georgia or Poland. Xi could be emboldened to invade Taiwan, or at least spark a crisis over the island to extract concessions from a U.S. president who has already suggested that he won’t fight.

The result will be not merely a multipolar world. That’s inevitable, whatever Washington does. It will be a global order in which autocrats prey on smaller states that can no longer count on the support of the world’s superpower, regional rivalries erupt into conflict, economic nationalism subverts global trade, and new nuclear threats emerge. This world will not be safe for American democracy or prosperity.

The fate of the world order and U.S. global power may seem of little consequence to Americans struggling to pay their bills. But a world hostile to U.S. interests will constrain American companies, roil international energy markets, and endanger jobs and economic growth. Americans could confront bigger wars that require greater sacrifices (as in 1941).

Perhaps Trump will surprise everyone by pondering his legacy and choosing not to pursue the course he has signaled. But that seems unlikely. His messaging on his foreign-policy priorities has been too consistent for too long. Over the next four years, Americans will have to decide whether they still want the United States to be a great power, and if so, what kind of great power they wish it to be. Americans wanted change. The world may pay the price.
 
Once appeased in Ukraine, Putin may very well rebuild his army with the help of China, North Korea, and Iran, and then move on to his next victim—say, Georgia or Poland
Lmao neocons still promoting domino theory even after it was discredited 50 years ago.

Also I don't give two shits about Poland. Russia can't be too bad given their current fraudulently installed president wants to import the third world.
 
Despite its endurance, this system is fragile. It is sustained by an American promise to hold firm to its commitments and ensure collective defense.
Despite America's competitive advantage in defense, it's not an "American global order" and the world cannot rely entirely on America. The global order is based on international conventions and norms, not the whims of the American government. It is upheld by the cooperation of countries that believe in rule of law and are willing to uphold it. The willingness has been wanting for a very long time.

The American people have told the world that they no longer wish to support an American-led world order
Everyone wants an American-led world order until America asks them to do something. Then they assert their sovereignty, cultural differences, the perceived or imagined faults of whichever American is President at the time, the danger of reckless cowboys, the problems of a global hegemon or hyperpower, et cetera to explain why everything America wants is all wrong. If we did have an American-led world order, we wouldn't see phrases like "George W. Bush’s unilateralist War on Terror" (which does a grave disservice to all the other countries involved in the "unilateralist" war).

The best news of the Ukraine War is that NATO countries are finally starting to do what Trump told them to do in his first term, they are finally starting to meet their spending goals. I think when he said he wouldn't defend the parasites, that really got to them.

China began to assert its global leadership more aggressively during Trump’s first term
You can't blame this on Trump. He is not fond of Chy-na. And BRI started in 2013.

Trump seems to believe that he can keep China in check with his personal charm alone.
I guess a journalist can make stuff up if they use the word "seems." It seems Michael Schuman guzzles horse cum. Whatever Trump believes, it's better having him in charge than putting Tim Waltz, who seems to be a Chinese agent, within a heartbeat of the presidency.

It's true that Trump champions personal diplomacy. It's probably an instinct learned from his days in business. And it might be the best way of dealing with dictatorships; since all decisions are made by or for one person, there's only one lever to pull. But the US still has a functioning foreign policy establishment, and it accomplished quite a lot during Trump's first term. The USMCA and the Abraham Accords weren't accomplished through personal charm alone.

The fate of the world order and U.S. global power may seem of little consequence to Americans struggling to pay their bills. But a world hostile to U.S. interests will constrain American companies, roil international energy markets, and endanger jobs and economic growth. Americans could confront bigger wars that require greater sacrifices (as in 1941).
This much, at least, is correct. To this list, I would add drug cartels and terrorist organizations, who would almost certainly have much more freedom to operate. They will probably receive assistance from foreign states, including the Russian military forces currently building up in Latin America.
 
He speaks more fondly of America’s autocratic adversaries than of its democratic allies.
Is it really any fucking wonder? Look at our "democratic allies." Our best pals in the whole, wide world.
  • Australia, a servile vassal state of China and self-hating totalitarian shithole, where "civil liberty" is a foreign concept and kangaroo courts are the norm.
  • Canada, another insane self-hating totalitarian shithole, whose only real contribution to the world is to serve as a cautionary tale against liberalism.
  • The Islamic Caliphate of the United Kingdom, another insane self-hating totalitarian shithole, which imports foreigners en masse to murder their own citizens, locks you in jail if you speak out against it, and has more surveillance cameras per capita than any other country in the world except China.
  • New Zealand.
When you have friends like ours, who needs enemies?
 
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No matter how bad Trump will be, he won't be worse than Biden limp wristed policies and "love our enemies, hurt our allies" politics.
 
does an american global order actually benefit the american people though?
Do you think Michael Schuman is concerned with the benefit of the american people?
Or any of the "neoconservatives", for that matter? Every facet of neoconservatism serves some very special interests.

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what your country can do for Israel."
 
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Once appeased in Ukraine, Putin may very well rebuild his army with the help of China, North Korea, and Iran, and then move on to his next victim—say, Georgia or Poland.
Poland is in NATO. Georgia isn't. Georgia isn't our problem.

What these idiots don't understand is we didn't give up on globalism because we think there are no bad guys in the world. We gave up because after Iraq and Afghanistan, we realized the problems resulting in bad guys are far too deep and widespread to be solved with American blood and treasure. They're just not our problem.
 
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Poland is in NATO. Georgia isn't. Georgia isn't our problem.

What these idiots don't understand is we didn't give up on globalism because we think there are no bad guys in the world. We gave up because after Iraq and Afghanistan, we realized the problems resulting in bad guys are far too deep and widespread to be solved with American blood and treasure. They're just not our problem.
Sadly, some big fat cats like to see Georgia becoming our problem.
 
More bricks cope keep coping you subhuman Slovak monkeys keep coping you would never rival the United states you had your chance maybe you should have kicked all the people stealing 10s of billions of dollars from you out of the country after the fall of communism
 
Everyone wants an American-led world order until America asks them to do something. Then they assert their sovereignty, cultural differences, the perceived or imagined faults of whichever American is President at the time, the danger of reckless cowboys, the problems of a global hegemon or hyperpower, et cetera to explain why everything America wants is all wrong.
My entire life, global politics has basically been this:
  1. "FUCK AMERICA DEATH TO AMERICA IMPERIALIST SCUM FUCK OFF"
  2. America invents a new drug or technology
  3. "um excuse me America 👉👈 it's me, your best friend ☺️ can we please have that thing that cost you billions of dollars to create and test??? and can we have it for free??? ilu soooo much you know 🥰"
  4. America bails everyone else out
  5. Ten minutes pass
  6. Return to step 1
 
Sounds like the mewling of some neocon trash, who wrote this shit
Neocon, Neolib, they really seem to have merged. Whenever I see an article like this, I try to guess "Aging wine aunt, homosexual activist, or [name I'm not supposed to notice]?"

Oh. Michael Schulman of the Atlantic Council. Well that checks several boxes.
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He derides “globalism” as a liberal conspiracy against the American people
Given its outcomes, could it be anything else?

George W. Bush’s unilateralist War on Terror strained the international system
"Old Forever War for oil bad, new Forever Wars for buttsecks and kiddie sex changes good!"
 
He speaks more fondly of America’s autocratic adversaries than of its democratic allies.
We barely have any real Ally’s. Our “ally’s” in Europe like the UK have shown aggression towards American citizens and even said they would arrest them for their online speech, and Israel certainly isn’t our friend either. Our closest ally is Japan, which is pretty much an extension of the US in the far east.

Russia COULD make a great ally if we would stop fucking poking the bear.
 
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