💬 Off-Topic "Scientific" Studies regarding Transpeople

[Coo Coo Bird]

U.S. Study on Puberty Blockers Goes Unpublished Because of Politics, Doctor Says

This is in the New York Times and firewalled but journalist Hannah Barnes shared screenshots on Twitter:

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The doctor in question:

post forehead. let's see if the anxiety skittles have ruined your hairline like groomer doctor

She's married to a pooner:

Married to a literal Aydin
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Being a Trans Man in the World Today (archive)

And she's a member of the Progressive Caucus of the California Democratic Party:

An interesting find on her LinkedIn profile.

Spoiler: Very Surprising

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A brief investigation into that second organization will show that they're quite aware that people are interested in their efforts to weaponize psychology and change society on a mass scale.

Spoiler: The Wicked Flee When No Man Pursueth

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I'm not too inclined towards either extreme on this issue, but it does boggle my mind that people like her can't even recognize why someone might be disturbed at her work.

 

[Procrastinhater]

And she's a member of the Progressive Caucus of the California Democratic Party:

Aren't they the ones that had that video leaked where they couldn't get through a meeting without some freak interupting with "point of privilege" and "please do not use *sluuurp* gendered language!"

 

[Coo Coo Bird]

Aren't they the ones that had that video leaked where they couldn't get through a meeting without some freak interupting with "point of privilege" and "please do use *sluuurp* gendered language!"

I think that might have been some Communist Party meeting. But that might have happened more than once, I dunno.

 

[Procrastinhater]

I think that might have been some Communist Party meeting. But that might have happened more than once, I dunno.

I think you're right, which makes it even more ironic.
Stalin would have exterminated that entire fucking room.

 

[FinnSven]

I think you're right, which makes it even more ironic.
Stalin would have exterminated that entire fucking room.

Even Lenin would have.

The whole of the old school fathers of communism would have seen this movement as an insane bourgeois exercise in decadence.

Gender reassignment would have been regarded as a counter revolutionary movement and in the way of production and efficiency.
The idea of workers taking time off to have their genitalia removed and unable to provide a new generation of workers would have been considered sheer lunacy, thus even the suggestion would get one a single ticket to Siberia.

Marx was quoted in his lifetime as saying “If these people are Marxist, then I am not a Marxist.”

Faced with all this, I am certain he would simply nope out and put a shotgun in his mouth.

And then be retroactively claimed as secretly trans as he 41%ed.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Even Lenin would have.

The whole of the old school fathers of communism would have seen this movement as an insane bourgeois exercise in decadence.

Gender reassignment would have been regarded as a counter revolutionary movement and in the way of production and efficiency.
The idea of workers taking time off to have their genitalia removed and unable to provide a new generation of workers would have been considered sheer lunacy, thus even the suggestion would get one a single ticket to Siberia.

Marx was quoted in his lifetime as saying “If these people are Marxist, then I am not a Marxist.”

Faced with all this, I am certain he would simply nope out and put a shotgun in his mouth.

And then be retroactively claimed as secretly trans as he 41%ed.

Yeah the old school Bolsheviks weren't snowflakes, they hated faggot shit. Stalin was a fucking bandit and a train robber before he got into politics. In the biography The Court of the Red Tsar the author says there's a letter in State records that someone had written to Stalin complaining about Beria's NKVD and the treatment of some group or other, and in Stalins handwriting it has "this man is a sodomite and a degenerate" scrawled across it.
Shostakovich put on a "progressive" performance instead of a classical one at the Moscow theater and Lenin and Stalin stood up and walked out 15 minutes into the performance, followed by the other top brass, and Stalin wrote a scathing review in Pravda, which lead to Shostakovich's friends avoiding him because they knew he was out of favor.

If the Bolsheviks had been mincing faggots with "sensory issues" that were triggered over "gendered language" the October Revolution would have died on the streets of Moscow.

 

[Positron]

The whole of the old school fathers of communism would have seen this movement as an insane bourgeois exercise in decadence.

Marx-Lenin-Mao promulgated Dialectical materialism. There is no material basis in transsxualism.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

The whole of the old school fathers of communism would have seen this movement as an insane bourgeois exercise in decadence.

Gender reassignment would have been regarded as a counter revolutionary movement and in the way of production and efficiency.
The idea of workers taking time off to have their genitalia removed and unable to provide a new generation of workers would have been considered sheer lunacy, thus even the suggestion would get one a single ticket to Siberia.

Yeah the old school Bolsheviks weren't snowflakes, they hated faggot shit. Stalin was a fucking bandit and a train robber before he got into politics. In the biography The Court of the Red Tsar the author says there's a letter in State records that someone had written to Stalin complaining about Beria's NKVD and the treatment of some group or other, and in Stalins handwriting it has "this man is a sodomite and a degenerate" scrawled across it.

The communists only saw it as useful as far as it could be used to subvert capitalist societies, that's it.

Even the original neo-marxists and cultural marxists quietly admitted that much of what they wanted to push (mass immigration to destroy national identity, normalization of perversions like homosexuality, emptying of churches, greater dependence on government programs, etc) were only forms of accelerationism, purposefully making the west "so corrupt that it stinks."

The only saving grace (in the loosest sense of the term) is that few western communists realize that, they unironically believe that fag/troon acceptance is a genuinely good thing to support when it's not. But not so when you realize that greater amounts of mental illness and destruction of identity and purpose can serve the purposes of just about any scheming, power-hungry asshole, communist, capitalist, or otherwise.

On the other hand, there were elements of sexual revolution in 1920s Russia, which were quickly snuffed out after that decade for what I can only imagine were pragmatic reasons.

 

[AnOminous]

Even Lenin would have.

Even Trotsky would have.

All you'd need is Phil/ADF in that room for it to be that meme of Stalin aghast at the faggotry of modern Communism.

 

[Jacques1194]

I don't know where else to put this but this "real" science vet claims there are 7.4 billion sexes. He makes this bizarre claim that we can keep breaking down our biological sex into smaller and smaller differences in brain areas, hormone levels, signalling differences, and genetic variances. I don't know what fucking scientific study this guy is quoting that states these batshit claims.

 

[Aunt Carol]

I don't know what fucking scientific study this guy is quoting that states these batshit claims.

Jeez, can we please just go back to the late 1990s "um actually sex and gender are two different things" cutting-edge dogma?

At least that had a designated area for the material reality we all share, and a designated area for the infinite discourse. Legislate sex; don't legislate gender. Assign sports leagues by sex, not gender. Separation of gender and state.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Jeez, can we please just go back to the late 1990s "um actually sex and gender are two different things" cutting-edge dogma?

No, because the concept of "gender" as understood by troon ideologues (as opposed to being used as a more polite word for "sex") shouldn't even be acknowledged, period.

Don't play their fucking word games.

 

[Aunt Carol]

No, because the concept of "gender" as understood by troon ideologues (as opposed to being used as a more polite word for "sex") shouldn't even be acknowledged, period.

Don't play their fucking word games.

A timeline with citations would be an amazing tool for this. From the first use of "gender" to the snotty "they're different" definitions, to the euphemistic lay use ("gender reveal") at the same time official forms quietly replaced one with another. And now it was never sex, always gender.

n.b. I am far too lazy and non-academic to make this timeline, but I bet there would be a lot of usual suspects whose words 10-20 years ago could be used against them.

I recently read an article about something feminist that happened in the 1990s that had a footnote stating "The term 'women' is used in its historical sense in this essay, since that was the common parlance of the moment."

Historical sense; maybe that's what we should be saying in the modern day. "This locker room is for women in the historical sense of the term."

 

[Fapcop]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ftm/comments/1gdpjxo/trans_researcher_needs_your_help/

Now I’m certainly not suggesting that anyone should fuck up some trannys pooner study, but… Just sharing the link in case someone has a pooner friend!

 

[Dr. Eldon Tyrell]

Found this gem on archive.org - the only upload of this 1973 paper. Very recent, uploaded in 2023: The "proceedings of the 2nd interdisciplinary symposium on gender dysphoria"

Bonus post on Georges Burou, penile inversion pioneer.

 

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

I am shocked, SHOCKED, I tells ya:

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Ben Ryans article:
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[AnOminous]

I am shocked, SHOCKED, I tells ya:

Are you seriously saying chopping off your dick somehow makes sex less possible?

Did troons LIE to us?

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

I am shocked, SHOCKED, I tells ya:
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Ben Ryans article:
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Turns out genital mutilation is horrific and leads to pain & suffering!

Chimpanzees rip each others dicks off when they fight because they know it's bad.But trannies are happily running into the gender butchers office demanding to have their crotches ripped apart. Chimps are smart, trannies are retards.

This horrible shit needs to be illegal or at least not paid by tax payers. Can studies like this not be used to stop this?

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

I’m sure this latest study will be explained away as transphobia soon enough. Where’s Tony Gaptooth and his Zoolander boyfriend when you need them? Zinnia horsecock? Seems most troons do academic paper criticism rather than actual science.

 

[MeatSuki]

I have a question for you all: Just how reliable are studies, even the peer-reviewed ones? Is it a common belief here that most of the peer-reviewed studies that reinforce pooners/troons beliefs are fake and have fabricated results?