I just watched Fight Club

[Steve Pinto]

I still like it (the book and the movie) and I'm not bothered by the blatant homoerotic subtext because life as a man in general is full of dumb and gay shit.

There are many lines and sentiments from the book and movie that are cringe now, but I still feel like at the time, someone had to encapsulate that distinctive 1990's white boy angst into film. Don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to be cool like Brad Pitt.

Skip the sequel comics.

 

[Mike Matei's Penis]

We're the middle children of history, man

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Skip the sequel books.

Is it the usual case of the writer making a sequel based entirely on how people misunderstood the original (usually to mean too much right wing conclusion)?

 

[Steve Pinto]

Is it the usual case of the writer making a sequel based entirely on how people misunderstood the original (usually to mean too much right wing conclusion)?

I wouldn't even say that. The sequel is a mediocre comic book that just isn't interesting or as deep as the original. The book you're thinking of is Adjustment Day ( 2018 ), which is a silly TDS type story about a future civil war where gays are forced to have sex with women.

I really enjoyed Haunted ( 2005 ) though.

 

[The Feline Solution]

Is it the usual case of the writer making a sequel based entirely on how people misunderstood the original (usually to mean too much right wing conclusion)?

It's just really, really bad, modern Chuck writing and story. Art is serviceable but just 10 pages in you start thinking "What the fuck am i reading here?". YMMV, of course.

I really enjoyed Haunted ( 2005 ) though.

Loved it. Super edgy, very original story/s, his prose on point. And while everyone, including the critics, seemed to hate it, i also loved Diary. One of the spookiest books i have ever read.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

I remember reading like two issues of Fight Club 2 and figured that Chuck was phoning it in for a paycheck.

Of course, I never read anything of his other than Fight Club (I think) so I just threw it away as moneygrab trash. I've come to find out since then that it wasn't and it just, in fact, sucks.

 

[UnKillFill]

I have not actually seen this movie, but I was under the impression that you aren't supposed to talk about fight club..

 

[namelesstacotruck]

The movie is gay. Because the protagonists angst only makes sense in the context of a gay man incapable of finding meaning in life.

Chuck getting all his money stolen was pretty funny. Im betting he was fucking the guy who stole his shit and thats how it happened.

 

[Standardized Profile]

Is it the usual case of the writer making a sequel based entirely on how people misunderstood the original (usually to mean too much right wing conclusion)?

The first half or so is okay. It is, like I said, Fight Club as a comic book--Tyler is back and he has an evil plan, his army has been preparing for the last ten years, Sebastian and his misfit allies have to save the day. You can tell that kind of story in a comic book. The script isn't very good, though. Palahniuk isn't skilled at the craft of translating a story into narrative sequential art, or he's trying to be unconventional and it just comes off as sloppy. Then the whole thing turns into metafictional nonsense, as we see Palahniuk sitting in a writer's circle ("Write Klub") talking about the plot with his girlfriends. He gives Marla a clue to advance the plot. The next time we see him, he admits he can't resolve the story, kills everyone, the girlfriends rewrite the end, he's confronted by angry fans, the fans write another ending, then Tyler shoots him in the head. He probably thought it was a clever comment on death of the author, or the creation outgrowing its creator.

I'll give him this, his interaction with the fans is kind of funny, even if he does reduce them to caricatures:

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

I was under the impression that the sequel was like, Our Hero and Marla have settled down and now have a normal life with a kid, then one day the kid goes missing and there's a claim from Tyler that he did it?

 

[liam dees]

Did you like the twist of who Tyler Durden was?

that was pretty cool. i liked the fourth wall breaking segments where they are fucking with the physical film. cool shit.

there was a chapter where he was describing Tyler's penis in detail while he pissed in a bowl of soup that's one of the gayest passages I've ever read.

thank god the movie spared me from that detail. that sounds

You could be right. FWIW I interpreted that scene as a dream. I don't think there was a literal beach, it took place in the hero's imagination.

I am assuming everyone knows the twist. does this mean the narrator is gay for himself or something? thats like a narcissus thing to do lmao

 

[Chug Smuckle]

 

[peachlover669]

I loved the movie and have been needing to read the book for awhile now and assuming you homos are telling the truth about the gay shit in the book and not just misinterpreting it due to your own closeted gay feelings than im even more interested in reading it now since it sounds like the book differs a lot from the movie version.
As far as the movie goes i think its one of the greatest films ever made and actually pulls off a good twist that makes you rethink and re contextualize everything prior to it, very few pieces of media have been able to effectively do this mostly because id assume that a lot of directors and authors are midwits who cant come up with anything new but also because it takes alot of skill to hint at something so groundbreaking while not making it obvious to the viewer.

One thing that i didnt exactly dislike but thought was strange was how in the end Tyler is effectively killed (and the method is weird but who cares its meant to be symbolic) which i find strange because he doesnt really teach the narrator anything, this would mean he killed off his alter ego without fixing his self. How i see it is that the movie is about the struggle of mans duality in terms of the modern world, man struggles between his effeminate side who wants to settle down and abide by rules while his manly side wishes to tear down all that is structural and confining. the narrator is fine living in his peaceful life filled with constants and his manly side is brought upon him when that life is threatened and he has no where to go, the film as i see it is about the balancing of these sides and the extremes they represent yet inspite of this in the end the narrator is left defying tyler and eventually kills him.
^^^^^^^^^^^ meaningless bullshit ^^^^^^^^^^
I had an epiphany as i was writing this and i understand the ending now due to actually thinking about it and the movie more as a whole. Tyler is killed just as the narrators previous life is abandoned because they overtook him and did not let the other in, towards the end tyler takes over the narrators life just as he had taken over tylers life by being a docile male which is why he is killed so that the self who has learned from tyler and still holds what is good from his previous self is left behind.

or maybe this is all fruitless conjecture and the movie is actually about mans struggle against sucking dick and governmental collapse in contrast with wanting to have sex with a woman
TLDR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F61so9e36Ic

 

[Pedophobe]

As far as the movie goes i think its one of the greatest films ever made and actually pulls off a good twist that makes you rethink and re contextualize everything prior to it

Fucking Coming Attractions or AICN website spoiled the ending for me years before the movie came out but I still loved every second of it the first time I saw it even knowing what was coming. It's just that good.

 

[The Feline Solution]

The first half or so is okay. It is, like I said, Fight Club as a comic book--Tyler is back and he has an evil plan, his army has been preparing for the last ten years, Sebastian and his misfit allies have to save the day. You can tell that kind of story in a comic book. The script isn't very good, though. Palahniuk isn't skilled at the craft of translating a story into narrative sequential art, or he's trying to be unconventional and it just comes off as sloppy. Then the whole thing turns into metafictional nonsense, as we see Palahniuk sitting in a writer's circle ("Write Klub") talking about the plot with his girlfriends. He gives Marla a clue to advance the plot. The next time we see him, he admits he can't resolve the story, kills everyone, the girlfriends rewrite the end, he's confronted by angry fans, the fans write another ending, then Tyler shoots him in the head. He probably thought it was a clever comment on death of the author, or the creation outgrowing its creator.

I'll give him this, his interaction with the fans is kind of funny, even if he does reduce them to caricatures:

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I didn't even know he went as far as a self-insert. Terrible. I dig the jab at Gaiman.

it sounds like the book differs a lot from the movie version

Really only in minor ways throughout and the ending. Read it, it's good, Chuck's prose used to be excellent.

telling the truth about the gay shit in the book and not just misinterpreting it due to your own closeted gay feelings

I don't mind reading gay shit in books as long as it isn't some page-long, detailed assfucking bonanza (Glamorama comes to mind) and as i said in other posts, i didn't even pick up on it.

 

[liam dees]

Fucking Coming Attractions or AICN website spoiled the ending for me years before the movie came out but I still loved every second of it the first time I saw it even knowing what was coming. It's just that good.

I have a similar experience because the Internet are a bunch of buffoons and broke the first two rules immediately and so the whole twist became a cliche sort of in-joke in reddit and other places where I would hang out as a normie. I still found a lot of the film exciting and fun to watch because no amount of Youtube "essay explorations" can compare to the actual film experience.

 

[Pedophobe]

I must admit showing it to someone later who didn't know anything going in and watching his mind get blown was pretty funny. The narrator falling sideways on his bed in shock is basically the same reaction the audience has.

 

[liam dees]

Even when I knew the twist, the execution of that reveal was so well done and satisfying. Makes me grin thinking about it.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

I must admit showing it to someone later who didn't know anything going in and watching his mind get blown was pretty funny. The narrator falling sideways on his bed in shock is basically the same reaction the audience has.

I noticed the frame of Tyler early on so I figured something was up, but not specifically that. So it was more like a "ohhhh, okay, yeah that makes sense" for me

 

[Odd Opossum]

There are many lines and sentiments from the book and movie that are cringe now, but I still feel like at the time, someone had to encapsulate that distinctive 1990's white boy angst into film. Don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to be cool like Brad Pitt.

I don't think any of the social commentary from Fight Club or films like it from the 90's/2000's have aged well unless you're a slacker 20-something.