BOOK BONFIRE OF THE BRAIN

[DogZero]

This was not true pre war. There was a large pro german sentiment Isolationism was a big thing. The british had to overcome that.

I agree with Jeff here, they did surveys before pearl harbour and there was overwhelming majorities wanting to stay out.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

This was not true pre war. There was a large pro german sentiment Isolationism was a big thing. The british had to overcome that.

There was never a time in US history in which any significant percentage of the population had favorable views of Nazi Germany. A lot of people didn't want to get involved in the war given WWI was only 20 years before and the US was dealing with its own problems, but none of them supported Nazi Germany.

Bitter, hate-filled trash like Ford was the exception, not the rule, especially after Kristallnacht.

However, isolationism was already fading by the time the Japanese started the Second Sino-Soviet War, especially after they attacked the Panay. After Pearl Harbor it was nonexistent, but even then it was Germany and Italy that declared war on the United States, not the other way around.

 

[Broadside]

starve innocent people to death because they are subhuman.

I recall the Left's darling, Noam Chomsky, suggesting we should do this to the unvaccinated and many people agreeing. Australia began building camps to keep the unvaccinated in. You'd think COVID would have shown you that ordinary people can become just as twisted and evil as soon as the TV man tells them it's ok to do so.
Whine about the Nazis all you like, but it's human nature, not some magical ideology that appeared ex nihilo in the 1930s.

 

[dirtynewby]

There was never a time in US history in which any significant percentage of the population had favorable views of Nazi Germany. A lot of people didn't want to get involved in the war given WWI was only 20 years before and the US was dealing with its own problems, but none of them supported Nazi Germany.

Bitter, hate-filled trash like Ford was the exception, not the rule, especially after Kristallnacht.

However, isolationism was already fading by the time the Japanese started the Second Sino-Soviet War, especially after they attacked the Panay. After Pearl Harbor it was nonexistent, but even then it was Germany and Italy that declared war on the United States, not the other way around.

Ford garnered support for America. Your definition of trash is a lil skewed. No one cared about German internal business. The most preventable war ever was WW2. The common american man lost this war.

 

[DogZero]

The most preventable war ever was WW2.

This in particular is true, among many factors the delusional and incompetent foreign policy of the UK directly caused WW2. Pat buchanan makes this case well in “Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary war”

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

Whine about the Nazis all you like, but it's human nature, not some magical ideology that appeared ex nihilo in the 1930s.

Sure, and so are rape, pedophilia and murder. Just because it's human nature doesn't mean it's right or acceptable.

You can see what Nazi ideology is by the character of its adherents, it attracts the evil and degenerate because it is evil and degenerate itself. There's never been a bigger collection of drunks, drug addicts, criminals, perverts and just total losers in charge of a country allowed to do whatever they want with no consequences.

Goebbels murdered his own children. That is so incomprehensibly evil it's beyond words.

 

[Broadside]

Sure, and so are rape, pedophilia and murder. Just because it's human nature doesn't mean it's right or acceptable.

You can see what Nazi ideology is by the character of its adherents, it attracts the evil and degenerate because it is evil and degenerate itself. There's never been a bigger collection of drunks, drug addicts, criminals, perverts and just total losers in charge of a country allowed to do whatever they want with no consequences.

Goebbels murdered his own children. That is so incomprehensibly evil it's beyond words.

Wait till this guy learns about USSR top brass

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

Ford garnered support for America. Your definition of trash is a lil skewed. No one cared about German internal business. The most preventable war ever was WW2. The common american man lost this war.

Yes, it could have easily been prevented if Japan had stopped its war of aggression in China and Germany respected Poland's borders. It could have also been prevented if France and Britain acted in 1939 instead of sitting on the border while the Germans and Soviets mopped up what was left of Poland.

The Nazis and Japanese would have murdered even more innocent people and would have inevitably attacked the US anyways, their ideology and vision for the future required this country's destruction.

Wait till this guy learns about USSR top brass

Who, like Beria or Yezhov? Both of them were shot for their crimes eventually. Not that it matters, I don't support the Soviets any more than I do the Nazis. Both ideologies are inhuman and evil, the Nazis are just the worse of the two.

 

[dirtynewby]

Yes, it could have easily been prevented if Japan had stopped its war of aggression in China and Germany respected Poland's borders. It could have also been prevented if France and Britain acted in 1939 instead of sitting on the border while the Germans and Soviets mopped up what was left of Poland.

The Nazis and Japanese would have murdered even more innocent people and would have inevitably attacked the US anyways, their ideology and vision for the future required this country's destruction.

you know the brainwashed official narrative. Goebbels spared his family from torture. Also you diminish all those that were prostituted and starved to death by Weimar and the Russians.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

you know the brainwashed official narrative. Goebbels spared his family from torture. Also you diminish all those that were prostituted and starved to death by Weimar and the Russians.

What a bunch of bullshit, Speer's children and Himmler's children were never harmed at all. Defending a child murderer, come on.

And boo hoo about the hungie Germans, that's as ridiculous a sob story as whining about Dresden. How many Jews, Poles and Russians did they starve to death in their war of aggression? How many French and Dutch suffered malnutrition and disease because the Germans looted their occupied countries with overvalued Reichsmarks?

Or how about when they massacred and wiped entire villages off the map in France and Czechia?

They got what they deserved.

 

[dirtynewby]

What a bunch of bullshit, Speer's children and Himmler's children were never harmed at all. Defending a child murderer, come on.

And boo hoo about the hungie Germans, that's as ridiculous a sob story as whining about Dresden. How many Jews, Poles and Russians did they starve to death in their war of aggression? How many French and Dutch suffered malnutrition and disease because the Germans looted their occupied countries with overvalued Reichsmarks?

Or how about when they massacred and wiped entire villages off the map in France and Czechia?

They got what they deserved.

Your defending jews. Your defending Epstein. Weimar was many epsteins. Diminish your crimes. Rules for thee but not for yee.

 

[Meat Target]

When given the option, Americans were always going to side with Britain over Germany, especially Nazi Germany.

And don't forget that America was dead-set on staying out of the war until the issue was foisted upon them with Pearl Harbor. Hitler declared war on the US, not the other way around.

Nazism is such an alien, hateful, vicious ideology it's instinctively repulsive to anyone formed in the Christian and Greco-Roman philosophical traditions that underlie Western civilization. Let alone the Anglo-Saxon and later English common law and representative government tradition that had already existed for a millennium.

In addition to this, Nazism was a parochially German ideology. It was a product of its time and place, within the cultural context of a defeated and desperate Germany. Which is why dipshits like the NJP are delusional if they think Nazism would ever organically catch on in the United States.

To the surprise of nobody who isn't a psychopath, when you start barging into other people's countries and declaring them your inferiors at gunpoint, you tend to become disliked.

It's why Nazism rose to power in the first place; the Treaty of Versailles kicked Germany while she was down, and the poverty and degeneracy imposed on her fueled resentment.

True, violence may be the Final Argument of Kings, but that's only a short-term solution that you pull out in the most dire of circumstances. You have to give the conquered a better reason than "you lost, sucks to suck" to accept your authority, like the League of Nations did.

Germans voted for Hitler because they were rightfully afraid of bloodthirsty Judeo-Bolsheviks. So once the Nazis were defeated, the US assuaged their fears by promising to protect those in their regions of control from the Commies, in exchange for trade and rebuilding via the Marshall Plan. Same with Japan, South Korea, Western Europe, et al. Hence, the postwar world order was born.

Bottom line: cruelty and arrogance can only get you so far. It makes people hate you. Hitler might not have become the Dark Lord of modern creation myth if he had just stayed in his lane, not sperged out about racial purity, and focused on rebuilding Germany.

He could have been like Francisco Franco, who stomped out Commies and wisely avoided confrontation with the Western democracies, which led him to rule until 1975.

Maybe then, nationalism wouldn't be a bad word.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

Your defending jews. Your defending Epstein. Weimar was many epsteins. Diminish your crimes. Rules for thee but not for yee.

It's not about the Jews in my case...they wanted me shot (at best) or starved and worked to death (at worst) simply for being a Slav. Poles, Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians among others were all to be exterminated because we were subhuman in the eyes of the one-balled meth head and his cronies.

Don't forget Hitler considered Americans Negrofied trash to be destroyed and conquered as well, he didn't have the same racial respect for us as he did the British or Norwegians.

 

[dirtynewby]

It's not about the Jews in my case...they wanted me shot (at best) or starved and worked to death (at worst) simply for being a Slav. Poles, Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians among others were all to be exterminated because we were subhuman in the eyes of the one-balled meth head and his cronies.

Don't forget Hitler considered Americans Negrofied trash to be destroyed and conquered as well, he didn't have the same racial respect for us as he did the British or Norwegians.

You can believe what you want on Hitler's beliefs. You can ask the moderator if there isnt a more contentious subject between nationalists of every variety. Protestants insist he was cath until his death. Caths say he was pagan. He failed to unify Germany spiritually. Weighing the characterizations and the sources is a major deal from where I am at. This is the most lied about man since Jesus Christ. The point about the Germans being in a desperate situation. Having to use force or choose suicide. I have read more jews than most people have coming from the libertarian side of things. This is why weimar is easier for me to talk about. Cuz i read alot of the economists out of uni of Vienna. So in Mein Kampf it makes perfect since what he is talking about in the universities.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

You can believe what you want on Hitler's beliefs. You can ask the moderator if there isnt a more contentious subject between nationalists of every variety. Protestants insist he was cath until his death. Caths say he was pagan. He failed to unify Germany spiritually. Weighing the characterizations and the sources is a major deal from where I am at. This is the most lied about man since Jesus Christ. The point about the Germans being in a desperate situation. Having to use force or choose suicide. I have read more jews than most people have coming from the libertarian side of things. This is why weimar is easier for me to talk about. Cuz i read alot of the economists out of uni of Vienna. So in Mein Kampf it makes perfect since what he is talking about in the universities.

I wasn't talking about Jews, I was talking about the Slavs he murdered.

Hitler wasn't a Christian beyond being baptized, he hated the Church and everything it teaches, and wanted nothing but to pervert it into a venue for his hate-filled ideology. Eventually the other Christian churches were to be eradicated, especially the Catholics because Hitler couldn't control them as easily as the state Protestant churches.

He was not a good man, he was not a misunderstood man. He was an evil man whose hatred murdered tens of millions of innocent people. You can see it in the character of his associates as well. They were all vile and deviant in their own ways.

There is no defending what the Nazis did in Europe and their "accomplishments" in Germany were trivial and meaningless other than some ugly buildings and a shitty radio. Even the Autobahn was a Weimar idea and was mostly completed after the War anyways.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

The Nazis failed because they bought in the usual right wing cope of "christians are never at fault for shitty opinions and actions, it must be the Jews".

 

[dirtynewby]

I wasn't talking about Jews, I was talking about the Slavs he murdered.

Hitler wasn't a Christian beyond being baptized, he hated the Church and everything it teaches, and wanted nothing but to pervert it into a venue for his hate-filled ideology. Eventually the other Christian churches were to be eradicated, especially the Catholics because Hitler couldn't control them as easily as the state Protestant churches.

He was not a good man, he was not a misunderstood man. He was an evil man whose hatred murdered tens of millions of innocent people. You can see it in the character of his associates as well. They were all vile and deviant in their own ways.

There is no defending what the Nazis did in Europe and their "accomplishments" in Germany were trivial and meaningless other than some ugly buildings and a shitty radio. Even the Autobahn was a Weimar idea and was mostly completed after the War anyways.

like I said all you do is diminish and throw shade. Hyper inflation started these projects that were starving the people. There had to be an uprising. Otherwise those conditions would still exist. The mass crimes against children. No more malaria in the western world. You believe in slavery.

Ill spell it out hyper inflation is theft of labor no one was getting fed. No one was taking responsibility.

 

[dirtynewby]

Who else is racist against germans and thinks they should starve to death for the jew. Who else thinks thousands of kids should be play things for the jew like Agamemnon pro child abuse pro slaver racist against germans.