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[Xarpho's Return]

When will these "conservatives" realize that their "allies" hate them?

I don't know if the gay trains is the equivalent of bragging about how disgusting your feces is, or the mask slipping about how they want to demoralize you.

 

[quaawaa]

Jason is in Japan:

Spoiler: Images in Tweet

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[Lemon-Lime Turpentine]

Car culture did this:

Oh, if only Jamal had stolen a bicycle instead of a car! Then he would have biked over to med school and become a contributing member of society instead of killing an innocent man for amusement!

A gun would not have saved this guy:

Even if you contrived some ridiculous James Bond scenario where the cyclist turns around and shoots the driver, causing the car to somehow swerve and miss him, how would these same redditors react to that?
>racist white supremacist kills an innocent black teen!
>he didn't have to shoot the driver! he could have shot the tires! this wasn't self defense, it was murder!
>it was just playful tailgating! talk about an overreaction facilitated by white entitlement and institutional racism!
>if only we had better public transit! then people of color wouldn't be dying from racist road rage!

Those guys above are awfully racist:

Yeah, stop judging people collectively by the actions of a few, you psychopathic bloodthirsty car owners.

 

[Atypical Dog]

Cyclists do not want to have to follow ANY road safety rules or laws. Just earlier this week I watched a cyclist blow through a 4-way stop without looking and a car had to slam on the brakes not to hit him. The most surprising thing was he was wearing a helmet.

That's not the point, cyclists are violent psychopaths who fantasize about violence.

Tinfoil theory but hear me out.

Cyclists are cosplaying as Mongolian hordes. Every time they get on their bike, they think they're the nomadic raider, Urbanist Khan, strapping water canteen and backpack to themselves like the warriors of old, using cargo bikes or bike baskets like they would once use saddlebags. Roaming the streets of your local area, they zip along in their designated lanes, going to work and going to third places like a roving horde, despoiling their stock with large purchases.

Motorcyclists in Asian countries experience the greatest joy of this transportation delusion by lane-splitting. Weaving between gridlocked cars, they laugh within their helmets as they speed past cars in gridlock.

By contrast, the cyclist in the West suffers. Confined to bike lanes and banned from lane-splitting (mostly because traffic doesn't gridlock as much or for as long), they cannot simply disregard the laws of the land and advance along the roads that are their birthright. Cars - those monstrous metal boxes that rule the road with their high speed and comfortable interiors - shatter this illusion, both by their prevalence and their ability to force the cyclist to move.

Pictured below is how the cyclist sees themselves:

He's in Commoragh, right? I hope he's enjoying the walkable non-Euclidean Dark Eldar urban planning!

 

[Apple Porcupine]

Well Jason wasn't lying about the snark in his newest video.

0:24

I genuinely don't understand how anyone with ears can stand listening to this man's voice, it's one of the most annoying I've heard.

In any case, like most recent NJB videos, most of it is just him repeating points from previous videos he's made and recommending you go watch those. He does this on at least three occasions in this one video alone and and at one point just outright recommends watching every video on his channel.

When he's not regurgitating old points he's already made, he's using a frankly disgusting amount of stock footage.

This shot of a "high school physics teacher" gets used three times. Apparently some of his viewers are starting to notice, he might even lose some Nebula paypigs with this one.

In any case, the actual video is about how Amsterdam recently set a citywide speed limit of 30 kph (18.6 mph for the "ignorant Americans"), and how this is an overwhelmingly good thing with no downsides (and that they should be even lower in certain places). His arguments start out reasonable enough, talking about traffic fatalities decreasing when speed limits are lower which makes intuitive sense, but then he lets his visceral hatred of trucks and SUVs take over.

In the 1980s, it wouldn't be unusual to find a family driving, say, a Ford Fiesta, but today you'll literally see idiots commuting to their desk jobs with some ridiculous thing like a Dodge RAM 1500, which can be up to 4 times heavier. The kinetic energy of that 80s Fiesta going 60 kph is the same as a vehicle four times its weight going 30 kph. So it's perfectly reasonable for yesterday's 50 or 60 kph roads to become today's 30 kph roads, to compensate for this trend towards larger, heavier vehicles.

He seems to have forgotten that he wants those heavier vehicles banned from city centers. He also tries to argue that with lower speed limits you don't need traffic lights, and that smaller cars need fewer safety features including... airbags, which is interesting.

You might be asking, "wait a second, doesn't this guy jack off to streetcars? How does he square those with lowering speed limits?" Well he's thought of that and straight up thinks the speed limits shouldn't apply.

Amsterdam has also allowed many public transit lanes to keep their 50 kph speed limits. The logic here is that public transit vehicles, driven by professional drivers in a dedicated center-running lane, can travel safely at higher speeds. I mean, there isn't really a good reason to make trams drive slower, just because cars are more dangerous.

I really struggle to understand how these urbanists think that buses and streetcars (and even fucking TRAINS), which are significantly bigger and heavier than any SUV or truck could ever dream of being, somehow never cause accidents because they're driven by "professionals." It's not even that they don't show the same anger towards those accidents that they do towards car accidents, they're just in complete denial that they even happen but they do, particularly in states with the dense walkable cities these people love so much.

He also tries to argue that your eyes aren't able to perceive as much at higher speeds, showing a ludicrously exaggerated view of what drivers actually see when driving at high speeds.

Maybe when drunk. Also, again, why is it ok for bus and streetcar drivers to be going this fast?

He claims he'll make a follow-up video with data gathered from Amsterdam setting new speed limits (heard that one before) and also announces he'll be doing livestreams where he takes a radar gun and monitors drivers like a wannabe traffic cop.

He concludes with this:

The thing that bothers me is that the data is really, really, really clear here. At some point we have to realize that anybody fighting against lower speed limits within cities is either willfully ignorant, or they're a selfish asshole who values their convenience more than other people's safety. I am so tired of our cities being loud, uncomfortable, and dangerous because of assholes who drive too fast, and think the rules don't apply to them. We need to take back our streets, and lowering speed limits is a big step in that direction.

Yeah keep up that rhetoric for the brick people on /r/fuckcars, I'm sure they'll do completely rational and sane things with that mindset.

Actually that's not fair, his actual conclusion is the sponsor of the month, Ground News, which is an app that lets you compare news articles from various websites and details how far left or right on the political spectrum they are (i.e., how correct they are).

 

[quaawaa]

Well Jason wasn't lying about the snark in his newest video.

His "snarky" voice sounds like a gay lisp...

In any case, the actual video is about how Amsterdam recently set a citywide speed limit of 30 kph (18.6 mph for the "ignorant Americans"), and how this is an overwhelmingly good thing with no downsides (and that they should be even lower in certain places). His arguments start out reasonable enough, talking about traffic fatalities decreasing when speed limits are lower which makes intuitive sense, but then he lets his visceral hatred of trucks and SUVs take over.

His goal is to make it so that even if you can afford to drive a car after all the punitive taxes they place on it, it would be useless for going anywhere because they've limited the driving speed to biking speed. They also plan on removing almost all parking, so unless you're rich enough for a chauffeur to drop you off or to pay exorbitant prices for the few remaining parking spots, you'll be forced to take the bicycle instead and pay someone to deliver anything larger than a backpack.

The EU and California have both proposed smart speed limiters that limit a car's max speed based off of its GPS location. They want to make it so it is physically impossible to disobey them.

Their goal isn't to make cycling better but rather to make driving suck just as much as biking does. Remember, they hate cars, they don't love mobility.

 

[AttilaIsTurk]

A speed limit of 30? I've just been learning to drive, and I was specifically told that it's in everyone's interest for cars to block off right-turning lanes for others. If you can barely overtake cyclists, you won't get an opportunity to avoid a hazard for THEIR sake.

Thankfully, my town littered with 40 zones is sane and knows what the word compromise means.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Remember, they hate cars, they don't love mobility.

They hate both cars and mobility.

 

[quaawaa]

Thankfully, my town littered with 40 zones is sane and knows what the word compromise means.

40 kph (25 mph) is still ridiculously slow for anything except a quiet back street.

American roads are typically 56 kph (35 mph) or 72 kph (45 mph), and ones in more rural areas are often 88 kph (55 mph) or higher. Residential streets are usually implicitly 40 kph (25 mph) and school zones are 32 kph (20 mph).

 

[Xarpho's Return]

He also tries to argue that with lower speed limits you don't need traffic lights

Traffic lights are for volume, not speed. The reason why you don't see traffic lights on quiet side streets is virtually no traffic. You see them on some avenues to provide a safe in/out for side streets and access for pedestrians (in no case can you step in front of a moving vehicle going at even 20 mph without consequence, he acts like you should be able to jump straight in front of a car without warning and never be your fault, but enough on that).

There used to be an extremely dangerous light in northwest Houston that was the only stoplight for miles around providing access to a residential community on an otherwise 70 mph divided highway (and was one of the first to be rebuilt as an overpass).

 

[AttilaIsTurk]

Traffic lights are for volume, not speed.

How is this even disputable? I've seen many perfectly safe junctions without lights that have cars legally driving at 80 km/h on the main road. This is only possible because there is a clear view of everything and low traffic. You can only assess the need for speed limitations relative to road conditions.

 

[Apple Porcupine]

Well it seems like Jason's trip to Japan has made him shirk his comment moderating duties, there's a ton of comments on his most recent video talking about how his tone sucks.

People are catching on that his goal is just more views; he just cares about the YouTube/Patreon/sponsor bux, he's on record saying he hates advocacy and he explicitly doesn't care about making the world a better place, hence why he moved (and if he had his way he would strip every freedom he could from you):

Even people who agree with him are tired:

And some comments telling him he's flatly wrong about several points:

 

[Xarpho's Return]

This shot of a "high school physics teacher" gets used three times. Apparently some of his viewers are starting to notice, he might even lose some Nebula paypigs with this one.

Doesn't Jason have someone to do a lot of video editing work on his stuff? I'm guessing while he covers for his own shit he's going to have some stern words with his editor.

 

[quaawaa]

/r/fuckcars member uninstalls a browser because they saw a picture of a truck:

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[Markass the Worst]

/r/fuckcars member uninstalls a browser because they saw a picture of a truck:

I need more of this. How far are the car-hating retards going to go? Are they going to have an autistic FSF-like certification but instead of making an OS out of free software, it's made out of software that isn't "car-brained"?

I wonder how the small cohort of people who promote Chromium-based browsers over Firefox for security reasons (a) would react to this post.

 

[AttilaIsTurk]

It's good to see some sense in the community instead of sucking OP's cock, but then again, that's some really low hanging fruit for backlash to manifest, damn.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

These fuckers need to stop making me like advertisements

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

40 kph (25 mph) is still ridiculously slow for anything except a quiet back street.

American roads are typically 56 kph (35 mph) or 72 kph (45 mph), and ones in more rural areas are often 88 kph (55 mph) or higher. Residential streets are usually implicitly 40 kph (25 mph) and school zones are 32 kph (20 mph).

And 18 mph is only slightly above the speed limit for fucking parking lots.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

They even know this themselves with their road diet talk and shit.

The speed of the road is entirely based on the design of the road; you go slow in a parking lot because you may need to stop suddenly because of all kinds of random shit.

If the parking lot is entirely empty you don’t go as slow.

Artificially trying to reduce speed is a mug’s game.

I also love “cars suck because you’re always stuck in traffic and also are always going a billion miles an hour over pedestrians.”

 

[Xarpho's Return]

I also love “cars suck because you’re always stuck in traffic and also are always going a billion miles an hour over pedestrians.”

Or "cars are constantly trying to murder me without question but if they're slower and more people in the streets they'll slow down and be friendly"