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How important are the vedas really? And when Indra slaughtered the dasyu did he really do it with no more than a namaste?
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What are your thoughts on Dalits?
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You're not from the Kali brotherhood cult, are you?
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The Vedas are important depending on which caste you are a part of. For Brahmins its extremely important and for others not so. In the modern world though since Brahminism doesnt have the profitability it had in the past due to temples running off funds from the monarchy, Brahmins as a class have abandoned religious orthodoxy for the most part. A lot of them are still pretty orthodox but they dont become priests and work in temples as a mandatory service and instead take up modern jobs. For the ones who do take part in temples though, Vedas are mandatory memorization material especially for head priests. Other people still do read the Vedas but its sort of a perceived duty towards orthodoxy and potential religious benefits rather than anything meaningful. The second half about Indra, I do not know, I dont know much about the lore of Indra and the Devas unfortunately.
Theyre okay, theyre basically just like black people in the states. Higher propensity towards marxism, quite grifty, tend to exploit grievances more, cry foul more, generally more misbehaved, disproportionately wealthy and poor etc etc. The treatment of them did suck and does still suck to an extent especially in poorer areas but the government/interest groups just as often likes to use them as a political volleyball just like the Dems do with Black people.
Toiletry and plumbing is not a religion problem, its a culture problem. People have just shit in the hole in the ground for generations till what we here called "Western toilets" arrived. Traditional Indian toilets are basically a toilet sink built into the floor. And they considered it good too since the waste was rerouted into the soil.
Funnily enough the Thuggees were a real thing, I dont know if they exist anymore but occultism is a very tied to religion here at least in perception. Kali is just an average Hindu god, one of thousands but there have been cults associated with her just like there was the Hare Krishna movement in the states which I would call a cult. Kali in fact is considered a feminist icon alongside Durga due to her propensity for vengeful attitudes towards men, she has been appropriated by a lot of SJWs in the states. Also Temple of Doom is banned over here lmao, its a great movie which I got to watch through piracy.
No, No, No
Cows are considered sacred animals for some spiritualistic reason idk why. The thing is a lot of the foundations of Hinduism are built on practicality and sciences so the practical reason why cows are revered is because theyre essential for the farm system contributing almost 80-90% to society from milk to fertilizer to fuel to weed control etc etc. Due to their usefulness people started worshipping them. The piss and shit thing is pseudoscience and there is a lot of up for debate religious things like how there are many gods who reside within the cow which I dont think is accurate to religious text. We dont have cows in urban settings, people dont own them. There are herders who travel from town to town so youll see a stray cow of theirs or two.
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Does any practicing Hindu actually get what Advaita Vedanta is actually about, or are they just faking it? And do any of them admit much of it was nicked from Mahayana Buddhists who also didn't understand what the hell it was either?
Seriously though, that shit is some of the hardest religious scholarship to wrap one's mind around. And it's not like gibberish, either. There's definitely something there, that I just can't seem to *get*.
Seriously though, that shit is some of the hardest religious scholarship to wrap one's mind around. And it's not like gibberish, either. There's definitely something there, that I just can't seem to *get*.
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Adding on to this question, why are they all blue?
Are your Gods smurfs?
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Do you not accept Christianity because Christ came to redeem for the sins of man?
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So how do you feel about the Buddha making your religion obsolete about 2,500 years ago when he revealed there is no "self" and that your gods are beings of no particular importance in the grand scheme of things?
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I've heard people say that Hinduism is actually monotheistic because all the different gods just different emanations of one supreme power, or something like that. How true is this?
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From what I understand its just a variation of the Karma system and Moksha. Most educated people know what it means intrinsically, most uneducated people practice it dogmatically. I think its something Buddhism derived from Hinduism, not really the other way around. Its just that Buddhism made it a lot more important and integral to the Buddhist ethos. Karma and Rebirth is just one aspect of Hinduism and it is mostly meant for the Brahmins, its not the central focus like for Buddhism and the lower classes should follow it in hopes of moving up the caste system in the next life. I dont know much about the education itself but it is a system which is one of the basic principles of Hindu living yes.
Only Vishnu and his incarnations are blue. Shiva is purple but perceived as blue by most people. Everybody else is normal skinned.
No, Hinduism being a predominantly Asian religion preaches master morality and self mastery. Abrahamic religions are all about slave morality and subservience to a central figure. This doesnt necessarily mean Hinduisms gods are not higher beings, its just that they got there by self mastery and self mastery is considered the path towards ascension to godhood. In Christianity everything is done in service to Christ and his suffering which is not the case here. The values preached by both are mostly the same but the reason behind them is different.
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Respect, Im not orthodox so I dont really care. Hinduism is not as practically beneficial as Buddhism is, around 30-40% of it is just useless nonsense. Buddhism is more appealing considering how practical it is. Even it has junk concepts but theyre closer to 10-20%.
Thats just contemporary atheism insertions. Hindu canon is closer to a greek pantheon of sorts, there are three main figures and a million hyperspecific variations below them depending on the myth, region and the values espoused.
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Alright. I'm not going to review any of my resources on apologetics or polemics, or otherwise do any research on your faith. I'm asking the following questions exclusively based on what you have said so far in this thread and I'm attempting to avoid any other assumptions. So you tell me what I need to know here:
1) You mentioned that you are not "Orthodox" and that apparently most people who follow your religion no longer are. Can you explain more about what this means in a practical sense? What is the difference between Orthodox and non-orthodox in your religion?
2) Is this division similar to Orthodoxy of the Abrahamic religions? That is to say, do the Orthodox and non-orthodox tend to divide themselves into factions (for example, in Catholicism the "trad caths" who want to go back to pre-Vatican II dogma vs the modernized Francis style Jesuits who want to change official teachings on issues like homosexuality)?
3) Following on the above, what argument is there to support being a non-orthodox follower of your religion? Based on what you have said, it appears one of your truth claims is that it is possible to become a god, but that it requires immense "mastery" to do this. Given what is at stake, wouldn't it make sense to be as devout and fervent in your efforts as possible? Why water it down?
4) More generally, what apologetic would you provide for your faith in a very brief presentation? Assuming you had less than a minute to make an "elevator pitch" to someone who is a skeptic, what would you tell them to convince them to take your religion seriously?
5) Following the above, is there any documented evidence (historical, archeological, scientific or otherwise) which would support your truth claims?
6) What position does your religion take on major moral and social issues? Such as:
-Homosexuality
-Gender ideology
-Abortion
-The role of religion in society
-The role of government in society
-(And perhaps most importantly, is there a difference between what the "Orthodox" and "non-orthodox" views are on these issues?)
7) Would a sexual deviant (say, perhaps a lesbian woman who keeps roaches as pets and enjoys gay space pirate porn) expect harsher or more lenient treatment in your society/religion in comparison to what such a person might face in the "bible belt" of America?
8. How prevalent is Islam in your culture and what stance does your religion take on resisting Islam and other foreign influences?
1) You mentioned that you are not "Orthodox" and that apparently most people who follow your religion no longer are. Can you explain more about what this means in a practical sense? What is the difference between Orthodox and non-orthodox in your religion?
2) Is this division similar to Orthodoxy of the Abrahamic religions? That is to say, do the Orthodox and non-orthodox tend to divide themselves into factions (for example, in Catholicism the "trad caths" who want to go back to pre-Vatican II dogma vs the modernized Francis style Jesuits who want to change official teachings on issues like homosexuality)?
3) Following on the above, what argument is there to support being a non-orthodox follower of your religion? Based on what you have said, it appears one of your truth claims is that it is possible to become a god, but that it requires immense "mastery" to do this. Given what is at stake, wouldn't it make sense to be as devout and fervent in your efforts as possible? Why water it down?
4) More generally, what apologetic would you provide for your faith in a very brief presentation? Assuming you had less than a minute to make an "elevator pitch" to someone who is a skeptic, what would you tell them to convince them to take your religion seriously?
5) Following the above, is there any documented evidence (historical, archeological, scientific or otherwise) which would support your truth claims?
6) What position does your religion take on major moral and social issues? Such as:
-Homosexuality
-Gender ideology
-Abortion
-The role of religion in society
-The role of government in society
-(And perhaps most importantly, is there a difference between what the "Orthodox" and "non-orthodox" views are on these issues?)
7) Would a sexual deviant (say, perhaps a lesbian woman who keeps roaches as pets and enjoys gay space pirate porn) expect harsher or more lenient treatment in your society/religion in comparison to what such a person might face in the "bible belt" of America?
8. How prevalent is Islam in your culture and what stance does your religion take on resisting Islam and other foreign influences?
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I got a question. In the India Menace thread, there is a documentary that showed practices that even I would have considered /pol/ hoaxes.
-The consumption of cow feces.
-The use of cow dung for things like soap, healthcare and so on.
-Eating off floors.
I know the ladt one isn't religion related, but how prevalent are these... practices of the most unsavoury kind?
Also, have you ever met a gypsy? If so, what are your thoughts? Being distant relatives of Indians, I am curious what your red flag detector caught of them, and how they compare to pakistanis.
-The consumption of cow feces.
-The use of cow dung for things like soap, healthcare and so on.
-Eating off floors.
I know the ladt one isn't religion related, but how prevalent are these... practices of the most unsavoury kind?
Also, have you ever met a gypsy? If so, what are your thoughts? Being distant relatives of Indians, I am curious what your red flag detector caught of them, and how they compare to pakistanis.
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Why is Vishnu a Smurf?
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Orthodox do more rituals, theyre more absorbed in religious etiquette, they read religious texts on a daily basis, are constantly viewing things through a religious lens, a lot more conformist etc etc. The equivalent of a bible thumper basically. Non Orthodox follow the lifestyle the religion prescribes when it comes to food and basic etiquette without commitment to the religion itself and the myth behind it. They may follow rituals which are only related to festivities or very important circumstances like death in the family or birth of a child.
There are factions as in the caste system and different sects within each caste. The castes are different by profession and relation to the religion. The sects inside a caste are different in the rituals they perform and the prayers they say. The difference between the sects is much smaller than caste differences. A good comparison would be sects are like american catholics and spanish catholics while castes are like catholics and protestants.
Freedom from conformity, embracing materialism if that can be considered a benefit (Orthodox followers generally tend to have less formal education and profitable jobs cause they spent all their time in commitment to religious activities. Theyre forced to depend on charity most of the time unless theyre connected to a rich temple) I cant think of many other benefits for non orthodoxy but freedom from conformity is a pretty big one imo. The godhood thing is metaphorical, in the myths it is described as literal but from a practical perspective it is metaphorical. Self mastery and enlightenment is supposed to take a person closer to godhood ie become a great person in terms of skill, focus, knowledge, wisdom etc etc. Devotion and fervor do not exactly give this outcome because the prescribed rituals and practices are quite self indulgent and excessive both materially and mentally. Which is why I said above that Buddhism is more practical.
Healthy lifestyle with vegetarian food and exercise, organic skincare which is not exclusive to piss and shit (sandal powder and coconut oil). Training of the Mind is also there as meditation is prescriptive. Reading religious texts helps in memorization. Very plant and animal friendly. I cant think of many other things and these are for non orthodoxy. For Orthodoxy I cant think of many benefits, its probably worse than the alternative imo.
Religious texts, word of mouth and general cultural osmosis. Not really any actual documented evidence as far as I know of.
-Homosexuality I have no idea. I think its not extremely supportive but tolerant of homosexuality if that makes sense cause theres evidence of homosexual descriptions in religious texts but not condonement necessarily.
-Gender Ideology is also the same. No support, just tolerance.
-Abortion I have no clue. Infanticide is supposed to be bad.
-This is what the caste system does. It divides society based on profession and basically integrates all of them with religion/spirituality to varying degrees. The Brahmins are supposed to be the scientist class who have their own gods/ritual practices. Kshatriyas are the royal/militaristic class who have their own. Vaishyas are the merchantile/trade class with their own. Shudras are the manual labourers (garbage collector, hairdresser, janitor, maintenance etc) who have their own. Each class is supposed to be symbiotically interdependent but ended up forming a hierarchy.
-Role of government not so much. just a whole lot of advocacy for democratic monarchy where the monarch makes final judgements but everyone is allowed to pitch in to the monarchs advisors who will collate and give him info.
-Orthodox non orthodox differences are not much, they just vary wrt conformity about each subject to religious texts.
Both I guess. The orthodox would be more kind to her on a personal level but ultimately shun her as a deviant. This is for the more enlightened orthodoxy who are rational, the less enlightened orthodoxy who are rigidly dogmatic and conformist would not. Besides I dont think the woman youre referring to would survive here.
I cant speak for this from a religious standpoint. The religion advocates for a basic live and let live but does not acknowledge the existence of other religions/nations due to it being one of the first religions to be discovered. There are hints towards mythological places like Lemuria but theyre only mentioned in passing. However I do not support Islamism due to its colonialist tendencies and rigidity. Foreign influences maybe depending on whether its good or not. If you want you can interpret the Ramayana as advocating for xenophobia due to its opposition to the people of Lanka, what we currently call Sri Lanka. I couldnt comment on that, I would just say thats not what the story is trying to communicate.
Yes people do this. Its because of psuedoscientific beliefs or pseudoreligious beliefs. Its not extremely prevalent and tend to be lower in the upper classes. Not zero, just lower.
This I have no idea about, Ive never seen it, I dont know where the footage was from in the codex pajeet thing. My guess is it was in some temple complex cause they tend to feed poor people there on mass and that was a polished stone floor, not marble which is what you would find in most places.
No, I tend to associate gypsies with Jews and not Indians. The Roma/Romani are the gypsies I know of, theyre much closer to ashkenazis than me.
I do not know, there is no reason given for some of the religious oddities like why does a god have an elephant head, why are some people blue. The more hippie orthodox types will just say you cant prove it is false and you do not know the scale of the cosmos, so you are wrong.
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Is it kosher to bang Kali?