US Here’s what we know about Uber and Lyft’s planned exit from Minneapolis in May - The future of Uber and Lyft in Minneapolis has garnered concern and debate in recent weeks after the City Council voted last month to require that ride-hailing companies pay drivers a higher rate while they are within city limits.

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — The future of Uber and Lyft in Minneapolis has garnered concern and debate in recent weeks after the City Council voted last month to require that ride-hailing companies pay drivers a higher rate while they are within city limits.

Uber and Lyft responded by saying they would stop serving the Minneapolis area when the ordinance takes effect May 1, causing the city to weigh the ordinance it passed. The state could also take action, while riders and drivers are left wondering what could come next.

Here is what we know so far:

WHAT HAPPENED?​

The Minneapolis City Council last month overrode a mayoral veto and passed an ordinance that requires ride-hailing companies to pay drivers a minimum rate of $1.40 per mile and $0.51 per minute — or $5 per ride, whichever is greater — excluding tips, for the time spent transporting passengers in Minneapolis.

Supporters of the ordinance said the rate would ensure that companies pay drivers the equivalent of the city’s minimum wage of $15.57 per hour.

Council Member Jamal Osman, who co-authored the ordinance, said in a statement: “Drivers are human beings with families, and they deserve dignified minimum wages like all other workers. ... the Minneapolis City Council will not allow the East African community, or any community, to be exploited for cheap labor.”

Many East African immigrants in the Minneapolis area work as Uber and Lyft drivers and have advocated for the rate increase.

However, a recent study commissioned by the Minnesota Department of Labor and Industry found that a lower rate of $0.89 per mile and $0.49 per minute would meet the $15.57 per hour goal.

WHAT ARE UBER AND LYFT DOING?​

Uber and Lyft said they can support the rate from the state’s study. But if the higher rate from the Minneapolis ordinance goes into effect, the companies said they will leave the market May 1.

Josh Gold, an Uber spokesperson, said the company plans on ending its operations in Minneapolis, St. Paul and the Twin Cities metro area — including the Minneapolis-Saint Paul International Airport.

The metro area includes more than 3 million people, which is more than half the state’s population.

CJ Macklin, a Lyft spokesperson, said Lyft will end its operations only in Minneapolis. Lyft will still service the airport, but will not pick up or drop off passengers at any Minneapolis locations.

Both companies previously pulled out of Austin, Texas, in 2016, after the city pushed for fingerprint-based background checks of drivers as a rider safety measure. The companies returned after the Texas Legislature overrode the local measure and passed a law implementing different rules statewide.

CAN THE STATE STEP IN?​

Minnesota Democratic Gov. Tim Walz said he is “deeply concerned” about the possibility of Uber and Lyft leaving the Minneapolis area.

Walz said the move would have statewide impact and affect everyone who relies on the service, including people trying to get home safely from bars, people with disabilities, students and others.

State lawmakers could pass legislation that would supersede the local ordinance. But Walz said the most efficient solution is to ask the Minneapolis City Council to work out a compromise.

WHAT IS THE CITY DOING?​

Minneapolis City Council members could vote to change the ordinance, take it back completely or leave it as is.

Council member Linea Palmisano said she plans to continue voting against it unless it is changed. Palmisano said she has heard from many community members who oppose it, including students, part-time and low-income workers, hospitals and more.

Palmisano said she has also heard from drivers who do not agree with it and “are now at risk of losing their livelihood.”

Council member Robin Wonsley, the ordinance’s lead author, said the ordinance’s rate is “the right thing to do.”

“For far too long, this industry has exploited workers of color and immigrant workers for cheap labor. We have the opportunity and the responsibility to build a rideshare industry that is not based on poverty wages and exploitation,” she said.

WHAT ARE PEOPLE SAYING?​

Residents in the Twin Cities metro area are divided — some support the ordinance because it will help marginalized workers, while others oppose it because they don’t want Uber and Lyft to leave.

Marianna Brown, an Uber driver in her 60s living in a suburb of Minneapolis, supports the ordinance and isn’t worried, saying other ride-hailing companies — and even a local driver-owned co-op — are planning to enter the Minneapolis market. Brown, a Jamaican immigrant, said drivers have been abused by Uber and Lyft for too long.

Arianna Feldman, 31, of Minneapolis, said she supports the ordinance and has taken close to 2,000 rides on Lyft because she doesn’t drive, has health issues and doesn’t have access to reliable public transit.

“I think it’s really shameful that these multimillion-dollar companies are holding us hostage like this and punishing communities for demanding a very basic right to get compensated correctly,” she said.

Jake Clark, 44, of St. Paul, is an Uber and Lyft driver and opposes the ordinance. Clark said he has never earned less than $25 per hour and has earned up to $75 per hour because he prioritizes customer service and strategizes which rides to accept.

Michael Sack, 34, of Minneapolis, also opposes the ordinance. He has cerebral palsy and serves on the Minneapolis Advisory Committee on People with Disabilities. He urged the City Council and state Legislature to find a way to increase drivers’ pay while keeping ride-hailing services affordable.

“It is critical to keep the cost of rides down because people with low incomes, which most individuals with impairments have, utilize Uber and Lyft,” he said.

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Daddyyyyyyyyy!!! The kid doesn't want to play by our rules so he's taking his ball and going elsewhere, stop him and force him to comply!! Also this is democracy lol

Marianna Brown, an Uber driver in her 60s living in a suburb of Minneapolis, supports the ordinance

Arianna Feldman, 31, of Minneapolis, said she supports the ordinance

Jake Clark, 44, of St. Paul, is an Uber and Lyft driver and opposes the ordinance.

Michael Sack, 34, of Minneapolis, also opposes the ordinance.
Interesting; sheboons and Jewettes support it while the men oppose it. There's a joke and an actual correlation about this but for the life of me I can't figure out what it is....
 
They should leave. It is about time private businesses start telling governments to go fuck themselves when they overreach. The wages paid by a company are not the concern of government unless they run afoul of minimum wage laws.
 
Daddyyyyyyyyy!!! The kid doesn't want to play by our rules so he's taking his ball and going elsewhere, stop him and force him to comply!!
Should have been nicer to the cabbies, I guess?

@Bland Crumbs
The wages paid by a company are not the concern of government unless they run afoul of minimum wage laws.
Is it not?
 
Should have been nicer to the cabbies, I guess?

@Bland Crumbs

Is it not?
Is driving an uber or lyft a hourly job? Kind of seems like a commission job.

If Uber and Lyft told people they were going to get paid $15 per hour guaranteed but only paid them $10 action is needed.

The city coming in and saying, "Well you just have to keep paying them more until they are making $15 per hour but of course ignore tips lol" is stupid. The people on that city council are morons. The people who voted them in are even more deficient.
 
Is driving an uber or lyft a hourly job? Kind of seems like a commission job.

If Uber and Lyft told people they were going to get paid $15 per hour guaranteed but only paid them $10 action is needed.

The city coming in and saying, "Well you just have to keep paying them more until they are making $15 per hour but of course ignore tips lol" is stupid. The people on that city council are morons. The people who voted them in are even more deficient.

It's the Minneapolis bulbheads.

Council Member Jamal Osman, who co-authored the ordinance, said in a statement: “Drivers are human beings with families, and they deserve dignified minimum wages like all other workers. ... the Minneapolis City Council will not allow the East African community, or any community, to be exploited for cheap labor.”

Somalis.

Literally the lowest-IQ of all the low-IQ ferals.
 
It's the Minneapolis bulbheads.

Council Member Jamal Osman, who co-authored the ordinance, said in a statement: “Drivers are human beings with families, and they deserve dignified minimum wages like all other workers. ... the Minneapolis City Council will not allow the East African community, or any community, to be exploited for cheap labor.”

Somalis.

Literally the lowest-IQ of all the low-IQ ferals.
Let's see if he'll sing the same song if they would have been replaced by robots. Press "x" for doubts.
 
TL : DR - In spite of this happening immediately after the passing of ill-conceived regulation, this has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ILL-CONCEIVED REGULATION, which will ONLY HELP the usual POC suspects! (technically, moving from "bad job" to "unemployed" means you no longer have a bad job!)
 
Well, niggers did the same thing with stores, creating 'food deserts'. Now they're creating taxi deserts because nobody can deal with their shit!
 
No. If you drive for Uber or Lyft, you're paid on commission, i.e. based on the number of rides you give. The more rides you give, the more money you make. A bad month could hurt you, but that's the risk you take in a gig job. And as far as gig jobs go, Uber and Lyft are perfect for Somalis with no education.
 
If you want to help marginalized workers, I think the most effective method would be to force ride share apps to display how much they’ll be paying the driver.

There’s already a competitive ride share market (Uber vs Lyft vs Taxis vs public transit). The mechanisms to drive profiteering down already exist. I think if you were able to say “okay, my ride from Uber costs $10 and the guy gets paid $3.50 - vs Lyft which costs $10.25 and he gets paid $4.50” - then people would use that information to increase driver fares.

Plus it would force Uber/Lyft to disclose the bad tasting fact that they take the lions share of the cash for a ride transaction.
 
A bad month could hurt you, but that's the risk you take in a gig job.
To expand on this:

Any month after a holiday is a slow one. For example, January and (sometimes February) people don't spend money as much due to being broke from Christmas in December, so you'd have to hussle 2x as much as you normally would to get a ping from Uber/Lyft, including going out of your confort zone to go into the "not so nice" areas.
 
If you want to help marginalized workers, I think the most effective method would be to force ride share apps to display how much they’ll be paying the driver.

There’s already a competitive ride share market (Uber vs Lyft vs Taxis vs public transit). The mechanisms to drive profiteering down already exist. I think if you were able to say “okay, my ride from Uber costs $10 and the guy gets paid $3.50 - vs Lyft which costs $10.25 and he gets paid $4.50” - then people would use that information to increase driver fares.

Plus it would force Uber/Lyft to disclose the bad tasting fact that they take the lions share of the cash for a ride transaction.
I disagree, city dwellers are cheap ass scum and gig companies will lie with the supposed pay. In the end if a job doesn't pay enough to make ends meet people won't do it, what the government needs to do instead is prevent illegals from working those jobs, but that will actually make a positive change.
 
They should leave. It is about time private businesses start telling governments to go fuck themselves when they overreach. The wages paid by a company are not the concern of government unless they run afoul of minimum wage laws.
When you're somehow worse than corpos, MAYBE take some time to reflect how you got there.
 
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