Opinion Driving at ridiculous speeds should be physically impossible - Bugman suggests adding technology to cars to stop you from driving faster than the speed limit

Reckless speeding is epidemic in the US. This simple technology could save tens of thousands of lives.​

By David Zipper
Mar 1, 2024, 7:00am EST

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David Zipper is a senior fellow at the MIT Mobility Initiative, where he examines the interplay between transportation policy and technology. His work has been published in the Atlantic, Slate, Bloomberg, the Washington Post, and elsewhere.


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Speeding plays a role in over 12,000 US car fatalities per year, around a third of the national total. But an emergent technology could dramatically reduce that death toll, if not eliminate it entirely.

The auto industry has done little to address speeding, and it may be worsening the problem. Although the highest speed limit anywhere in the US is 85 mph (on Texas State Highway 130), most new cars can easily reach triple digits. Speedometers often rise all the way to 155 mph, and even safety-conscious Volvo lets drivers reach 112 mph (those behind the wheel of a Tesla Model S Plaid can top 200 mph).

Sure, a driver passing a semitruck on an interstate might need to briefly break the posted limit. But it’s hard to imagine a scenario where hitting 100 mph on a public road is anything short of reckless. Pedestrians are in particular danger; according to a 2011 study by the American Automobile Association, their average risk of death is 10 percent if struck by a car going 23 mph, but 50 percent at 42 mph and 75 percent at 50 mph.

Being surrounded by multiple tons of metal affords car occupants some protection, but they are hardly invulnerable. Many of the most catastrophic car crashes involve extreme acceleration, such as one in January in which a driver reached 124 mph on a 45 mph North Carolina highway before flipping the car and killing a University of North Carolina undergraduate.

In 2022, a woman flew through a Los Angeles intersection at 130 mph, more than triple the 35-mph speed limit, before striking multiple vehicles and killing five people, including a pregnant woman and her 11-month-old son.

At a national level, Americans are far more likely to die in crashes than those living in other rich countries; even comparably spacious and car-clogged Canada has a per capita crash death rate that is 60 percent lower than its southern neighbor.

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Happily, a common-sense solution is available. A technology known as Intelligent Speed Assistance (ISA) can make it difficult or impossible for drivers to drastically exceed the posted limit. Over the last few months, a bevy of federal, state, and local officials have called for ISA adoption on all new cars, or at least on those driven by public employees or those with a history of reckless driving.

From New York City to California, speed-limiting technology is having a moment.

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It’s been a long time coming. Rudimentary speed limiters have been available for over a century; in 1923, Cincinnati residents voted on a road safety proposal that would have mechanically restricted any car within city limits to 25 mph. That referendum was defeated, and the idea of constraining car speed subsequently faded from popular view.

But the recent emergence of ISA has thrust it back into policy conversations. Initially conceived of in France 40 years ago, modern ISA systems can be divided into two categories, both of which use GPS and digital maps to ascertain the speed limit on the roadway where a car is traveling.

“Active” ISA systems completely prevent further acceleration after the vehicle hits a given speed ceiling, such as five miles over the posted limit. “Passive” ISA is more permissive, relying on sounds, vibrations, or accelerator resistance to compel the driver to slow down (a determined driver can ignore those warnings and keep speeding up).

Both versions of ISA offer something rare and enticing: a straightforward technological fix for a major source of roadway carnage.

In 2022, the European Union adopted a rule requiring all new cars to be outfitted with passive ISA, starting this July. That was a watershed moment for ISA adoption — and it raised eyebrows across the Atlantic.

Later that year, New York City Mayor Eric Adams announced a groundbreaking pilot program in which ISA would be retrofitted into several dozen city-owned vehicles. The preliminary results are encouraging, showing a 36 percent reduction in hard braking (often used as a proxy for unsafe driving). Adams has spoken about potentially expanding the pilot across tens of thousands of vehicles within the city’s fleet, a move that could amplify safety benefits because cars with ISA also compel drivers behind them to obey the speed limit.

The next big move came last October, when the National Transportation Safety Board released its investigation into a particularly gruesome 2022 crash in North Las Vegas, in which the driver of a Dodge Challenger blasted through a red light at 103 mph (speed limit: 35 mph), striking a minivan and killing himself and eight other people. For the first time, NTSB officially recommended that the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), the vehicle safety division of the federal Department of Transportation, require all new cars sold in the US to contain ISA.

Although the NTSB lacks the power to enforce its recommendation, it left an impression on California State Senator Scott Wiener, a San Francisco Democrat. In January, Wiener unveiled a bill that would set a deadline of 2027 for all new cars sold in the Golden State to contain an active version of ISA, set to 10 mph over the speed limit (a to-be-defined override would be available in emergencies). Wiener told me that even if his bill doesn’t pass, he hopes that it inspires elected leaders elsewhere to pick up the ISA baton and run with it.

A few weeks later, the District of Columbia City Council unanimously passed a street safety bill that included a new pilot program to install ISA in the vehicles of drivers who “commit serious speeding crimes,” according to Council member Charles Allen. That approach could prevent habitually reckless drivers from further endangering everyone else on the street. (For example, the man who caused the 2022 crash in North Las Vegas already had three prior speeding convictions.)

Momentum behind ISA is clearly growing.

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NHTSA has shown no signs of requiring ISA at the federal level but provided a statement that it was “initiating new research this year” into the technology, without offering further detail.

Why the lack of urgency, despite US crash deaths being up 27 percent from a decade ago? ISA elicits fierce resistance from carmakers (whose marketing ads often feature their vehicles zooming through streets with a tiny disclaimer that they were filmed with stunt drivers on a closed course). The Alliance for Automotive Innovation, an auto industry lobbying association, responded to the California ISA bill by questioning the technology’s reliability.

Some car owners, too, may be wary, imagining scenarios where ISA prevents them from rushing to the hospital. Such occurrences are rare, and when they do happen, an untrained driver blasting past speed limits puts everyone in a dangerous situation. Every ISA proposal I have seen exempts emergency vehicles while permitting regular drivers to go a few mph over the posted limit.

Inevitably, there will be visceral opposition from those who view speed-limiting technology as an attack on “freedom,” even though breaking the posted limit is, by definition, already illegal. “Forget your constitutional rights, those can be damned, even your movement controlled,” fulminated Fox News host Laura Ingraham last November, after the NTSB endorsed ISA. (Several decades ago, the introduction of seat belt laws sparked a similar response.)

But ISA supporters have logic on their side. It is nonsensical that shared e-scooters weighing a few dozen pounds are widely throttled at 15 mph or less, while cars that are 100 times heavier and able to travel 10 times faster have no such mechanical restrictions. The status quo is even more outrageous at a time when the US is mired in an ongoing road safety crisis, including a 40-year high in pedestrian deaths.

With each new ISA bill and pilot program, the Overton window widens, and a federal requirement becomes a little more conceivable. For the sake of everyone on the road — including those who walk, bike, or ride transit as well as those inside a car — let’s hope that day arrives soon.

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I would love to see the data about speed & accidents/death especially where & how fast.

Are they just proposing something to throttle you from going over 70, or a device that only let's you go the speed limit wherever you are ? If it's the first , I don't think it will do much. Pedestrians are killed by speeding cars, but it's when people are driving recklessly through a 25mph & you wouldn't expect someone to drive fast. So a throttle to max 70 wont do much. If it's the latter, I don't see how this is logistically possible. Every stretch of road in the US is going to fitted with a device that tells your car how fast it can drive on a particular road ?
 
Every stretch of road in the US is going to fitted with a device that tells your car how fast it can drive on a particular road ?
GPS here already has this in urban areas , it can tell you what the limit is and scold you if you’re x% over it.
Now the caveats. The speed limit changes constantly over small distances and there’s often a decent lag. And the coverage seems mainly urban. But our politicians have already started floating the idea of pay per mile and pay per mile needs tracking. They want a tracking device in every car.
 
i'll drive 18 in a 15mph active schoolzone AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME
 
To play devil's advocate: Couldn't this also be due to the impact of technology? I imagine there's much less incentive for people in that age bracket to get a driver's license now than there was 20-30 years ago. A lot of malls and "third places" now have policies that ban unaccompanied minors, and with the Internet you don't have to meet your friends in person to hang out with them anyway.
Beater cars are also much, much more expensive and difficult to obtain thanks to perverse government programs that destroyed almost all of the low-end used car fleet in America.

And since we decided for the last few years that we don't wanna punish niggers anymore, car insurance for someone under 25 is 500% more expensive.

"They'll confiscate old cars!"
They'll do exactly what they did last time and dress it up in a "hurr we're making the environment better! FINANCIAL INCENTIVES!!!" sheepskin.
 
If it was impossible to speed then you’d destroy the revenue stream for many police departments. Lot of small towns would have practically no business whatsoever then.
 
Nevermind that it will just lead to a rash of even more retarded drivers who don't know how to feather the fucking throttle. They'll just get used to relying on "the machine god" to keep them from going too fast, and the throttle will just be an all-or-nothing affair to them. Might as well replace it with a button.
They already have that. Powerlevel: A secretary where I once worked reported - bragged, she was that dim - that she almost never used the accelerator, even for city driving. She just engaged the cruise control then used the speed adjust feature to thumb up/down the speed as needed. I didn't even think cruise would engage at city speeds but either hers did or she just did highway speed inside the city.

There are people this stupid. They use the same roads you do.
 
Go ahead. Try and put a speed limiter on my 30-40yr+ motorcycles or my ancient diesel hatchbacks. See how long they last. I may be a curmudgeon when it comes to modern tech but I know how to reprogram a microcontroller or feed false values to an input. Whatcha gonna do? Put an ignition cut out? Alert the authorities when I exceed 100mph?
I feel like an internet tough guy posting this but I am very passionate when it comes to my machines. The future Red Barchetta predicted must not come to pass
The state will just tell you that you cannot register your vehicle in the state of Commiefornia.
"No speed limiter? No sou...registration for you!"
They did it with diesel engines over 25 years old, what makes you think they will stop there?
 
Go ahead. Try and put a speed limiter on my 30-40yr+ motorcycles or my ancient diesel hatchbacks. See how long they last. I may be a curmudgeon when it comes to modern tech but I know how to reprogram a microcontroller or feed false values to an input. Whatcha gonna do? Put an ignition cut out? Alert the authorities when I exceed 100mph?
I feel like an internet tough guy posting this but I am very passionate when it comes to my machines. The future Red Barchetta predicted must not come to pass
When my husband got his new bike he immediately tore out all the California cuckold parts and had the ECU? I don't know what it's called, reprogrammed. I'm sure there'll be a market for doing something similar to any vehicles that have this bullshit if this law passes. Living here, nobody enforces laws so it's not going to matter.
 
To play devil's advocate: Couldn't this also be due to the impact of technology? I imagine there's much less incentive for people in that age bracket to get a driver's license now than there was 20-30 years ago. A lot of malls and "third places" now have policies that ban unaccompanied minors, and with the Internet you don't have to meet your friends in person to hang out with them anyway.
It could be. Most of the restrictions on the ages of people allowed in malls are mostly in nigger filled areas. The real problem is finding a mall that you can still go to. Most malls are further away than they used to be. Technology has made it easier to live without a license or a car. It's just not very cheap.

I would say the biggest reasons are still the ones I posted. In my state getting a license is not an easy task. decades ago, all you had to do was pass a written test and pass the driving test at the DMV. Those days are over. I have Millennials in my family that didn't get a license till they were in their 20's and one was in his early 30's. I didn't get mine till I was 20 or 21. That was back in the mid 2000's. It was easier to register to vote than to get a license. I had a voter card at 19.
Infuriating though it may be to read this nonsense, you can rest assured that none of it will come to pass. Why? Because this sort of thing requires a competent, functional society and we are rapidly passing the low limit on that.
"They'll confiscate old cars!"
"They'll have a network of radar traps covering the entire highway!"
"They'll put black boxes in everything with wifi 5G cancer ray hookups!"
Buddy, they can't track or shoot down a bus-sized balloon floating over the country for days, they can't maintain the bridges, they can't stop hordes of people from looting freight trains, they can't stop methheads from stealing the copper wiring out of street lights. The only thing restricting your speed in the awful clownfuture will be the completely decayed and potholed roads.
It's not incompetence. I can guarantee you the government knew that Balloon was there they just didn't do anything about it because it was Chinese. The US has a system called NORAD that's been around since the Cold War. It tells the government whatever is in the sky above the US. They definitely saw the balloon. They just didn't do anything about it. The problem is the balloon was spotted by someone and it was posted online. It probably went a little lower and that made it easier to see.

If the government wants to do something it can. If doesn't want to it pretends it can't.
 
They already have that. Powerlevel: A secretary where I once worked reported - bragged, she was that dim - that she almost never used the accelerator, even for city driving. She just engaged the cruise control then used the speed adjust feature to thumb up/down the speed as needed. I didn't even think cruise would engage at city speeds but either hers did or she just did highway speed inside the city.
AFAIK, most cars will let you set the cruise if you're doing at least 25mph.


There are people this stupid. They use the same roads you do.
And I think I encountered at least 15 of them just on the way home today. Retards. Retards everywhere. And I swear it's gotten worse since Pfizer and their ilk started injecting mystery "Science™ Juice" into everyone.

As for the topic, I'm also of the mind that if you need something artificially keeping you from driving like a nigger, then you don't belong on the road in the first place.
 
It'll be easier if they just implement automatic ticketing for any perceivable driving offense. A bunch of speedometers and cameras every mile of highway sending reports to an office that bills drivers for going even a few mph over the speed limit is quite affordable. It requires no modification of the vehicles themselves and can't be circumvented without obscuring license plates or driving an unlicensed vehicle, both offenses that cops can already arrest you for.
 
The thought implicit here being that because the EU is doing something it must be the right thing scares me more than anything else in this article. Hell, even that it is something all the cool kids are doing. All the big brain types (like the author of this article) in the Boston-Washington corridor seem to operate on this point as an unquestioned assumption.
they are also misrepresenting EU regulations. The System is like the little voice from your GPS telling you to slow down because of the speed limit.
 
There was a Republican politician who proposed raising the voting age to 25 (which for the record, I also disagree with) and Reddit was outraged. It was hilarious since Redditors usually love saying "you aren't a real adult until you're 25", you'd almost think they just want the benefits of being an adult without the responsibilities...
I'd be outraged too, unless you were going to raise the age for EVERYTHING, meaning the draft, etc, too.

The US doesn't have high speed limits because are roads are shit. The autobahn is well maintained from what I know about it. But US roads are full of potholes and poorly maintained.
Speed limits are also often set with the knowledge that most drivers will ignore them. It's to help police departments easily get speeding ticket revenue.
 
I would say the biggest reasons are still the ones I posted. In my state getting a license is not an easy task. decades ago, all you had to do was pass a written test and pass the driving test at the DMV. Those days are over. I have Millennials in my family that didn't get a license till they were in their 20's and one was in his early 30's. I didn't get mine till I was 20 or 21. That was back in the mid 2000's. It was easier to register to vote than to get a license. I had a voter card at 19.
People really discount how much harder independence for young people has become. States have cracked down hard on licenses, especially for young people, both with requirements to get one and restrictions on what you can do. If you're lucky enough to get one at 16, congrats, its essentially valueless since all you can do is drive yourself around with it. Can't take your friends anywhere, can't take a younger sibling somewhere for your parents, nothing. And all in the name of fewer teenage deaths caused by distracted driving.
 
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