Fact checking Alberta Premier Danielle Smith’s claims about trans athletes - Journo disingenuously waxes about one specific intersex athlete as if that's what people are concerned about

Fact checking Alberta Premier Danielle Smith’s claims about trans athletes​

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By Adam Toy Global News
Posted February 2, 2024 1:36 pm
Updated February 2, 2024 1:47 pm


Doctors are criticizing Alberta Premier Danielle Smith for her medically "false" statements about transgender youth care and gender reassignment surgery, saying her new school policy plan risks harming the vulnerable group. Katherine Ward has this story and more in Health Matters for Feb. 2, 2024.

During Wednesday’s videotaped announcement of policies targeting Alberta’s trans community, Premier Danielle Smith said one of those policies would prohibit trans women from competing in womens’ sports.

Smith suggested a trans athlete has “advantages” over their cisgender counterparts.

“There are obvious biological realities that give transgender female athletes a massive competitive advantage over women and girls,” Smith said Wednesday.
The scientific literature disagrees, even with the existence of high-profile cases.

Caster Semenya of South Africa was questioned about her athletic performance and her higher testosterone levels. Semenya has an intersex condition where normal male internal structures are not fully developed while an embryo, resulting in external genitalia that appear female or ambiguous at birth.

At 18, Semenya set personal, national and championship records in the 800-metre race, including at the 2009 IAAF Athletics World Championships, wins that brought up questions about her sex. World Athletics, the body formerly known as the IAAF, asked her to take a sex verification test.


She was denied the ability to race for nearly a year while the test results were being analyzed.

Semenya was the flag-bearer for South Africa at the 2012 Olympics, and Semenya’s silver in the 800-metre race was upgraded to gold when Russian Mariya Savinova’s top result was disqualified for doping at the games. Semenya would go on to also win gold in the same race in the 2016 Rio Olympics.

Semenya also won her discrimination case originally filed against the IAAF rules in a European court, a case which included an amicus brief from Human Rights Watch arguing the regulations “perpetuate the arbitrary scrutiny of women’s bodies in ways that are degrading and invasive of privacy, on grounds that are scientifically contested.”

Semenya was assigned female at birth, has XY chromosomes, but identifies as a woman. As she wrote in the New York Times in October 2023, she calls herself “a different kind of woman” and rejects the intersex label.

Her case is brought up for its profile, but with an important caveat: Semenya is not trans and is an Olympic-level athlete.


Sociocultural factors have more effect than hormones​

According to a 2022 review of scientific literature done by the Canadian Center for Ethics in Sport, a study into the biomedical argument that testosterone measures and boundaries, typically used to determine manhood and womanhood in sport, had inconclusive results.


There’s little scientific understanding about how hormone replacement therapy affects the athletic ability of trans women athletes, and the biological data about hormones and performance is often methodologically flawed, the report said.

The idea that testosterone suppression – like what Semenya undertook for years that left her feeling “constantly sick” – is a practice that has limited evidence, with some studies using misleading data or ignoring contraindicating evidence.

“There is no firm basis available in evidence to indicate that trans women have a consistent and measurable overall performance benefit after 12 months of testosterone suppression,” the report reads.

The CCES study also noted that social factors have a greater impact on athletic performance than hormones.

“Researchers in the sociocultural field of study argue that social factors contribute to performance advantages to a far greater extent than does testosterone and that assessing testosterone levels is another way to perpetuate the long history of policing women’s bodies in sport,” the report reads.

“Researchers highlight the many social factors that contribute to differences in athletic performance, including, for example: discriminations, disparate resource allocations, inequities, and violence against women in sport in the forms of sexism and sexual violence in sport contexts, arbitrary differences in rules and equipment between men’s and women’s sport, as well as histories of barring women from certain sports.”


Time conquers any advantages​

An October 2023 review of the current body of research around trans athletes in sports showed that any “advantage” in aerobic capacity, strength and endurance in a trans person declines soon after hormone therapy begins.

One study used army-style fitness assessments to compare cis and trans men and women. Following two years of gender affirming hormone therapy, trans men didn’t do better at pushups or a 2.4-kilometre run when compared to their cisgender counterparts, but completed more sit-ups, on average. Trans women in the same scenario did no better than their cis counterparts at push-ups or sit-ups, but did produce better run times.

Two years later, those differences in performance had disappeared.

“Trans men and trans women continually performed more similarly to their affirmed cisgender performance averages, and approach their own pre-transition percentile scores over the four years of gender affirming hormone therapy,” D.J. Oberlin writes in the paper.

The Lehman College assistant professor said the disproportionate focus on trans athletes seems to be based on the idea that cis men who are unable to succeed in sports against other cis men, would choose to misidentify as a trans woman to gain an advantage in sports against cis women.

“However, there are no legitimate cases of this occurring,” Oberlin wrote. “An individual’s sex does not determine their success or failure at any athletic event despite the high level of competition.”

Oberlin also noted the very low instance of trans athletes, partially due to their low representation in the population.

The 2021 census showed Alberta’s trans population only amounted to 0.22 per cent of the entire province, half of which are trans women, and non-binary persons were another 0.15 per cent. Numbers nationwide were very similar.
 
All the expected suspects are screaming their faces blue at these new laws.

The CCLA is planning a lawsuit in the HRC you know, rather then fighting the ever increasing restrictions on Canadain civil liberties they're devoting vast resources to making sure some 50 year old troon can swim with the teenagers and use the same change room.

Rather then stopping the RCMP using baseless warrants to seize citizen property they're spending time making sure anyone who refuses to call a male a "woman" will see actual jail time due to "hate speech".

You tell them all those sicko pedophiles to go fuck themselves Danny, most Albertans support everything your doing. Don't let the loud perverts living in the bughives threaten you. What some faggot living in the GTA thinks about what laws are passing in Alberta means less then piss in the wind.

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Not one step back Danielle.

When people question me why I helped to start the Western Separatist Party I point to shit like this. Canada IS a failed state and it cannot be fixed. We must dissolve it and let the different cultures go their own way as there is no longer any point to trying to mend the fences with someone who wants to pass laws so your children can be groom into faggots and raped by pedophiles and if you object YOU go to jail.
 
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It’s amazing the position popular with 90% of Albertan parents is just left on the ground for Danielle Smith to pick up. She really gives no fucks about what these people say.

She’s not perfect but she’s been the best premier in years. She’s a good communicator, mostly because she spent years in talk radio, so the journos don’t exactly terrify her.
 
It’s amazing the position popular with 90% of Albertan parents is just left on the ground for Danielle Smith to pick up. She really gives no fucks about what these people say.

Smith doesn't care because she knows no matter what she says or what she does she will always be the bad guy. Nothing, not even 100% compliance will make Alberta anything but the Liberals whipping boy.

Without those bad, nasty,dirty, evil rednecks out in the West to look down on and hate however could the massive faggot hipsters of the GTA feel good about themselves? How else could the Liberals whip up their supporters into a frenzy without those darn conservatives to blame for everything bad that happens in Canada?

No, as much as I dislike Smith she's on the right path here. No matter what she says or does she will always be the Bad PM so why try? Why try to meet them halfway? The faggots will never accept anything we do out here despite the fact it's Alberta Oil that pays for all those Gimme's that Trudeau uses to buy his votes. Without Alberta's transfer payments the whole welfare system of the East Coast dies in a single week.

And because they need us so badly, they feel safe in spitting in our face. That's the Liberal mindset; we have the power and privilege so we must kowtow to those who have less or get labeled as "bad people".

But what they forget is sooner or later that moral club loses it sting. Call someone a racists often enough and they stop caring. Calling us greedy oil pigs every day and very soon Albertains will stop giving a shit and then Ottawa will really shit their pants. They crapped themselves when we threaten to pull out of the CPP, wait till a real PM gets in and tells Ottawa to take their "revised provincial transfer payments" up their gaping asses.



Sorry for the rants, it's a topic very close to my heart.
 
They are fucking SALTY about it here in onterrible. Good for you Alberta fuck these faggots in toronto and ottawa.
 
What an odd example for the journalist to use to try to make the case. Caster Semenya won shitloads of races. And Caster Semenya is a guy with an advantage over women. Fucking moron journoscum posting a self-own. Even acknowledges that Semenya is XY. What's your point, journo, that XYs have advantages in sports over XXs? That's not the point you want to make.
 
What an odd example for the journalist to use to try to make the case. Caster Semenya won shitloads of races. And Caster Semenya is a guy with an advantage over women. Fucking moron journoscum posting a self-own. Even acknowledges that Semenya is XY. What's your point, journo, that XYs have advantages in sports over XXs? That's not the point you want to make.
Precisely.
 
Danielle sure threw COVID skeptics and political prisoners under the bus right quick the second she got any MSM pushback after she won the leadership.

Danielle is a pure politician at heart.

She will bend whichever way the wind blows. I never liked her nor do I trust her any farther then I could throw her but for now she's doing the right thing so I will say just that and nothing more.

Maybe her mauling by the lefty press has caused her to see them in a new light but I doubt it. She craves ass pats too much to ever really push back against them. The heavens forbid she tarnish her legacy by standing up for whats right and not just what's popular.
 
Semenya has an intersex condition
Semenya is an 46 XY male.


That report cites this paper by "Veronica Ivy" (real name Rhys McKinnon). Make of it what you will.

The Lehman College assistant professor said the disproportionate focus on trans athletes seems to be based on the idea that cis men who are unable to succeed in sports against other cis men, would choose to misidentify as a trans woman to gain an advantage in sports against cis women.

“However, there are no legitimate cases of this occurring,” Oberlin wrote. “An individual’s sex does not determine their success or failure at any athletic event despite the high level of competition.”
This is lying with your eyes open. The aforementioned "Veronica Ivy" is one such case.
 
There's something so fucking sexist about the argument that women would be athletically equal to men but they're "intimidated."

"Intimidated" either means that the best female athletes on earth are lacking courage, not training hard enough, or both.

Like that one fucking troon who beat those girls in track and field, who was basically like "You bishes need to train harder." Fuck that guy.

And the equipment argument? Somehow men are able to shop for decent shoes for running/soccer/whatever but women's brains just cannot handle going into a store and seeing more than three shoe options.

So sexist.
 
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