Never Back Down '24 / Ron DeSantis' Online Influencers / The DeSantoids - Florida Man Violates Federal Regulations to Hire Internet Retards, Nukes Own Career

[AeroGavin Rossdale]

That's a pretty good way of putting it. One other ingredient missing from the 2016 formula is that the Meatball fanboys were always overly serious and dull, and never had any fun doing any of it. Everything boiled down to yelling down all of the Ron-disbelievers on Twitter

One of the things I noticed, back in the early days before the polling should have been setting off warning klaxons, was they seemed to be operating on the assumption that the hypothetical support when RDS was peaking back before the run was set in stone. I remember the strategy being 'act like you're already the nominee' which lead to stuff like calling Trump 'Gov. DeSantis primary challenger'. Which can be fine at some points but didn't pass the smell test here. I haven't thought it out fully but I think there's a point to be made, much like the strange hybrid PAC/campaign structure, they were trying to recapture Meme Magic while under the constraints of approved campaign talking points. That and DeSantis never really offered any reason to explain why he was going after a guy he agreed with 95 percent of the time. Also that Ron was owed the same media attention as Trump despite doing nothing interesting for months.

Speaking of 'owed media attention', the Matt Walsh fallout is still happening, with fans writing long winded letters complaining that the Daily Wire wasn't Ron's personal PR Firm.

Spoiler: words words words

Jenna Ellis, one of the more level head RDS influencers finally asked 'Who the hell are these people? Democratic plants?'

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Her comments are pretty balanced, but a few members of the Fight Club popped in to explain themselves. And yeah, they basically felt it was the DW's job to help Ron win and report on their stupid slap fights with the Dilley Meme Team and other shit no one cares about.


Let's zoom in on that community note real quick.


Not only are they that petty, they couldn't even be bothered to write their own community note. They fed it into a chat bot.

 

[BootlegPopeye]

This twitter user right here is why I disliked the RonBots almost straight away - 'Sexual Assailant Trump' - does anyone believe with a straight face that Trump 'raped' Carroll? Because it is a laughably absurd story (Trump, who in the 90s was banging super models, suddenly decided he MUST have some 50 year old over the hill snatch) only the biggest retarded MSNBC watcher would find credible. The civil jury didn't even believe her 'rape' claim (she made no other claim). They instead accepted some legally vague 'assault' definition.

That Ron fans would believe that nonsense story, and many like it before, made me think that they were even worse than NeverTrumpers, that the whole thing might have the hands of some kind of Democrat run operation, as they have done before with bogus 'Republican' ads in primaries to elevate weaker fringe candidates. Is there any Democratic argument against Trump that Team Ron HASNT used? I can't think of too many.

And that would explain where the money continues to come from, as any Republican who spends on Ron at this point is literally flushing money down the toilet.

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

does anyone believe with a straight face that Trump 'raped' Carroll?

Woke liberal chameleons like your average DeSantis and Haley supporters sure do.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Am I retarded, or does this explain a lot?

I don't think you're retarded but the simpler explanation is, much like a lot of the recent votes for Nikki, the people supporting Ron want Biden to win. These are people able to stop screaming "all Republicans are Nazis!" long enough to try to get someone else to be the nominee bar Trump but when the election rolls round they will voting Blue no matter who.

Woke liberal chameleons like your average DeSantis and Haley supporters sure do.

The "found liable of rape" is something so baffling that a lot of news organisations try to avoid saying it at all. I can only speak to people in my own circle but especially older ones are genuinely confused by it. They ask questions like "why is he not in prison if he raped someone," "what do you mean the jury did not believe the rape claim" and "why he is he getting fined for saying he didn't rape anyone if that's what the jury agreed?"

It's causing more confusion than clarity. People who say "Trump raped someone, the courts say so" struggle to answer any of those questions without getting into an increasingly legal mire so a lot of sources try to avoid talking about it.

 

[AeroGavin Rossdale]

It's causing more confusion than clarity. People who say "Trump raped someone, the courts say so" struggle to answer any of those questions without getting into an increasingly legal mire so a lot of sources try to avoid talking about it.

I will point out that none of these principled conservatives will point out NY passed a law specifically to allow a crazy cat woman to sue a presidential front runner. Civil Liability is fucking annoying, it's why people think the FBI shot MLK Jr despite the only evidence being a wino who saw a guy in the bushes and that liability suit.

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

I will point out that none of these principled conservatives will point out NY passed a law specifically to allow a crazy cat woman to sue a presidential front runner.

And this is easily the funniest (see: absurd) aspects of the entire thing.

 

[AeroGavin Rossdale]

Woke liberal chameleons like your average DeSantis

Some of them, sure. Our good friend Kaladin may be a grifter, but he has some principled lines. Big thunk here on the connection between these two Conservative points..

It's just a Christian hymn guys, don't fight it or you're not a real conservative

Guys like Nordau and Will Chamberlain don't strike me as woke though, I think there's something else going on. I saw someone say that there's a class of Republican that don't particularly concern themselves with the effects of policy, they just like to stand out. They still want to hang out at the NYC and LA parties and attend Georgetown cocktail parties, they just want to be able to say they're Republicans. But not one of those hick ones; safe, financial conservatives who read Milton. The horror of Trump for them isn't what effect he has on the country, it's that he's a boor and they might be asked to defend his antics to their liberal friends and lose respectability points.

Anyway, Drama in Florida. Today's main character is Evan Power. Evan recenetly got elected head of the Florida Republican Party, after the last guy recorded himself sexually assaulting a woman who was expecting a three some with him and his wife. Evan would mark the occasion by making the media rounds, including a brief stop in on Laura Loomer's show. Evan, NOOOOO!



That's pretty direct for them, tagging Ron and Casey in. Notably not tagged in are Bryan Griffin (Ron's Press Secretary) and Christina Pushaw. But they showed up anyway.

https://twitter.com/BryanDGriffin/status/1752368092158505370

(Archive is shitting itself rn so local news article on the matter here for now)

Loomer will again accuse him of being Max Nordau and Bryan will strangely decide to respond to deny he's Max.


Evan suddenly remembered he had a commitment from the National Committee that day.


Loomer may be crazy, be would later raise the good point of why a state employee like Griffin is making veiled public threats against the head of the state party and if it's in his official capacity as Press Secretary for Ron, and if the Fight Club turns out to be funded by NBD what ethical questions does that raise? Post is here if you want one valid point among a wall of crazy.

But I think we can conclude that Casey saw the 'faked cancer' tweet and put a Fatwa out on Loomer that's still in place even outside of NBD. A piece of advice for Meatball, when politicians say 'my wife is my closest advisor' they aren't actually giving their wives control of the campaign. Especially a former local news anchor that wants to be first lady more than you want to president.

 

[BootlegPopeye]

But I think we can conclude that Casey saw the 'faked cancer' tweet and put a Fatwa out on Loomer that's still in place even outside of NBD.

And through Loomer, Team Meatball seems to believe that anything she says is the same as if Trump, Inc. said it, when in reality she is completely at the fringes of any real connection to Trump. They use her 'faked cancer' statement to make it out like Trump himself said it.

 

[Forest Portal Triumph 747]

https://twitter.com/desantisexposed/status/1752879434363761031

KaladinFree is someone who was charged with enticing a child for sexual purposes?? I’m not sure what evidence they have but the guy kinda looks like the leaked image of KalasinFree and it would explain the guy’s extreme anti-Trump obsession

https://twitter.com/1791joe/status/1749235557056545246

KaladinFree was in a Twitter Space about killing the MAGA movement

https://twitter.com/joma_gc/status/1752897909127795018

 

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https://archive.is/5ahSO

 

[AeroGavin Rossdale]

https://twitter.com/1791joe/status/1749235557056545246

KaladinFree was in a Twitter Space about killing the MAGA movement

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Well this is an unexpected development. Being a Trump hating BLM fan tracks with what we know but tbf that's not much. Tim himself isn't taking it well.

The source is the DeSantis Exposed account, which was created specifically for this purpose. We'll see how this plays out. I find it interesting he puts Loomer as behind it, as he's been antagonizing the Groypers the last few weeks and they seem like the natural culprits. Also this little interesting bit here, where Tim seems to state he has another rat in his GC.

No idea who this is. Further investigation required.

Other leaks, this time from a Daily Caller article. (A). Usual dysfunction, including the fun anecdote that staffers were escorted out of the building, those left were purged, and then the staffers were brought back in for office happy hour. But does give us some new insights into how this shit show developed.

1) Meatball really hates talking to strangers, which makes the decision to focus on local meet and greets even dumber, but more importantly every single thing online had to go through Ron or Casey for approval.


2) The decision to start retarded slap fights with no bodies on twitter was a Pushaw idea and her people knew it was stupid.


3) The 'dog pile and harass' strategy was seemingly implemented by former Comms Director Erin Perrine who does not get a great profile.

But I suggest she was the one who did the strategy based on the fact she did it to the people writing the article, which is insane.


They really need to stop retweeting these articles. Also, stop giving Rodger Stone attention. Even if they have him dead to rights about being a cuck they'll never be funnier than the phrase "Autistic mutant who makes Spiro Agnew look honest"



Edit: Posting this just to have it saved here if the Tim Cool Child Molestation Caper goes anywhere.

https://twitter.com/KaladinFree/status/1753065301762363667

(Archive Soon^tm) Now

 

[BootlegPopeye]

2) The decision to start retarded slap fights with no bodies on twitter was a Pushaw idea and her people knew it was stupid.

Im a little surprised at the article did not focus more on this. From their actions, you would think this was the entire campaign strategy. All they had to do was annoy everyone on the right who was mildly skeptical of DeSantis into outright hating him... Then they'd win.

I sort of pegged Pushaw as not ready for prime time for the national level having a skill set that only works in the Florida swamp, I think events have borne that out.

I haven't brought this up before on KF, but I was also annoyed that they spun his Jag career as some kind of military heroism. Probably not that many people noticed that, but that is one thing that highly annoys me.

Also, stop giving Rodger Stone attention

It will never not be funny to me that team Nixon still holds a grudge against Agnew and is relitigating it 50 years later.

 

[AeroGavin Rossdale]

Im a little surprised at the article did not focus more on this. From their actions, you would think this was the entire campaign strategy. All they had to do was annoy everyone on the right who was mildly skeptical of DeSantis into outright hating him... Then they'd win.

I wish but I doubt we'll get that. Media types will want to ask about big picture normal campaign stuff, not internet weirdos like we do. As much as I'd love an answer to the question 'Who decided it was a good idea to go scorched Earth on Tucker Carlson for being in the same room as Trump instead of woo'ing him', no one with access to whistleblowers is going to know that happened.

I haven't brought this up before on KF, but I was also annoyed that they spun his Jag career as some kind of military heroism. Probably not that many people noticed that, but that is one thing that highly annoys me.

Honestly I've only seen a few minor accounts go over the top with it, and those I think don't know what a JAG is. I do think it was a missed opportunity in they kept posting the 'Posing with someone else's rifle in the FOB' picture every POG has instead of going a more 'officer and gentleman' route. More dress uniforms, less camis. Also I know it was Team 1 but maybe avoid 'Legal advisor to the SEALs'.

It will never not be funny to me that team Nixon still holds a grudge against Agnew and is relitigating it 50 years later.

I forgot Stone has been around long enough to personally hate Agnew and stuck around long enough to call people autistic on twitter. HoF scumbag career.

 

[mandatorylurk]

I was holding off on the Tim Cool/Kaladin reveal but it sure looks like he's admitting it's him in those posts, despite all his blustering about defamation. What makes it more amazing is like what usually happens in ConInc, there was some black guy talking good about a republican, he gets boosted immediately to the front to show "how do you do, fellow black people" and then you find out he's a weirdo and starts pushing the conversation in ways it was never supposed to go like being a faggot defending the black national anthem.

I'm still waiting for some recorded audio of Will Chamberlain shitting on Posobiec or Pushaw calling Casey a cunt.

 

[AeroGavin Rossdale]

I was holding off on the Tim Cool/Kaladin reveal but it sure looks like he's admitting it's him in those posts, despite all his blustering about defamation. What makes it more amazing is like what usually happens in ConInc, there was some black guy talking good about a republican, he gets boosted immediately to the front to show "how do you do, fellow black people" and then you find out he's a weirdo and starts pushing the conversation in ways it was never supposed to go like being a faggot defending the black national anthem.

With him blowing up into actual drama it jogged my memory that Kaladin did this exact same shit before. I explicitly remember him trying to get into racist anon twitter or whatever we're calling what was once frog twitter as 'Based pro gun black guy'. They didn't trust him and he eventually got ran out after the white kid got beat to death in Akron for shooting a squirt gun at three nigs. Kaladin instantly pulled the 'Well he must of said sumthin/context/good boys didnt du nuthin" routine. That was June 2022 and his twitter that far back is scrubbed and search is showing no mentions or replies to him for that month. I couldn't even tell you what anon accounts from that time are still around I could check. I could be wrong but same MO from a black guy with a handle from a fantasy novel sticks out.

@BootlegPopeye Didn't we talk about that in DMs a while back?

Anyway, if anyone has a burner twitter account wanna shoot the DeSantis Exposed guy a DM and tell him to head over? We'll get this shit archived and documented better than twitter can.

https://twitter.com/desantisexposed/status/1752886070167974271

 

[Forest Portal Triumph 747]

@AeroGavin Rossdale KaladinFree made multiple pro gun control posts in 2023, which already damaged his credibility on the twitter right not long after he got astroturfed during Pushaw’s op

edit: it seems he deleted some of those pro-gun-control tweets, but some of his replies still remain

edit2: here's some more

 

[BootlegPopeye]

@BootlegPopeye Didn't we talk about that in DMs a while back?

IIRC (without looking it up) it was more the speculation that 'Kaladin' was some kind of non-black bot account, which obviously now looks unlikely, though that Twitter account above would explain how oddly non public he was for a black, (nominally) Republican campaign person, if its at all accurate. Usually, Republicans are going to be happy to have any black spokesman, so that I found suspicious how hidden he kept himself.

What I do remember were posts by Kaladin wishing death upon Trump, hoping Melania divorces him, among other trashy, low-brow material.

 

[Forest Portal Triumph 747]

note that it is also quite telling that KaladinFree said he was going to "reach out" to the convicted child solicitor, which makes no sense unless he wanted to cover for the possibility that he would sue with his real name while still claiming "I'm not KaladinFree but he reached out to me to do this"

 

[Nod Flenders]

Robert Salvador has given up on his AI polls and is just rigging twitter polls. 85 Percent of DeSantis voters are Never Trump!

I'm pressing X to doubt. Salvador is making shit up, again.

Bill Mitchell can't bring himself to imagine a politician saying the word 'Bullshit'.

I remember when Mitchell was a diehard Trump supporter. Funny how he's lost his supporters and engagement after backing DeSantis.

 

[BootlegPopeye]

I remember when Mitchell was a diehard Trump supporter. Funny how he's lost his supporters and engagement after backing DeSantis.

Supposedly he flipped because of years of being a Trump Superfan, he never got any kind of official position, be it with the White House, campaign, etc. I've heard the same explanation for why Paydro Gonzalez flipped so hard as well; he seemed to think occasional Tucker appearances would get him a job eventually.

What both Mitchell and Gonzalez dont realize/care, is that it makes them look like complete frauds. You don't go from edgy ex-Bernie Bro to Trump Superfan to Liz Cheney quoting neocon like Paydro did unless you're nothing but a money whore and complete liar.