Science Cryogenics Believers Say Life Extension Isn't Science Fiction - Your kids don't deserve an inheritance anyway. Since 1972, Alcor has been convincing families to spend their life savings on a 30 year supply of liquid nitrogen instead.

Cryogenics Believers Say Life Extension Isn't Science Fiction
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A tour of Alcor Life Extension Foundation’s headquarters in Scottsdale, Arizona, includes some unique sights. The nonprofit has more than 200 human bodies or heads—and a few beloved pets—in cryogenic preservation on-site.

Founded in 1972 by Fred and Linda Chamberlain, Alcor is dedicated to cryonics research and education and has about 1,500 members planning on some form of cryogenic preservation. While they’re still living, members wear medical alert bracelets that instruct hospitals and doctors to contact the organization in the event of a life-threatening emergency. A team is on standby to rush the body of any member who dies to Alcor’s facility. There, bodily fluids are replaced with special solutions that won’t turn to ice during the next step in the preservation process—cooling the cadaver to -196C (-321F).

The operation required to process and protect a body upon arrival is extensive, and the chemicals used for vitrification are unique, accounting for the hefty price tag: $200,000 for the whole body or $80,000 for just the head, plus monthly membership fees of up to $100. (Most members pay by designating Alcor as the beneficiary of their life insurance policies.) User fees cover about 40% of the cost, with the rest coming from donations.

James Arrowood, co-chief executive officer of Alcor, describes cryogenics as a serious scientific undertaking, deemphasizing the more outré associations it has in the public imagination as just a way to cheat death. He sees scientific research as the heart of Alcor’s mission. “I know what happens if I choose cremation,” Arrowood says. “I know what happens if I choose burial. I also know what the loss is to the science.” He gives the example of Albert Einstein’s brain, which was removed for study but was cut into pieces because there was no way to preserve and examine it in a nondestructive way. If there had been, Arrowood says, we could have learned more about the unique nature of the scientist’s genius. “Einstein’s brain is all over the world in little chunks,” he says. “And you can never get that data back.”

Alcor has accumulated a repository of data on organ preservation and decay that spans more than five decades. It has in storage the brain of someone born in the 1880s and someone born in the 2000s. Much of what it was doing in its early years was aspirational and felt like science fiction, Arrowood acknowledges, but he adds that cryogenics isn’t as weird as it’s made out to be. With in vitro fertilization, “embryos are frozen indefinitely,” he says, “and they ultimately result in a living being.”

As technology has progressed, advances such as improved preservation of individual organs have become viable goals. Arrowood cites kidney donation as an area in which Alcor might be able to make a difference—notably by preserving kidneys long enough after a donor’s death to line up a match and arrange for surgery. “That is a solvable problem,” he says. “It’s not fiction.”

Arrowood also sees potential for Alcor to contribute to scientific knowledge about what happens to bodies after death and to serve as a kind of seed bank, helping preserve species that are near extinction.

Naturally, he’s planning to be cryopreserved himself. “Have you seen a cremation? They’re awful! Or burial? You get eaten by worms! I’ve never liked worms,” he says. “I am choosing to be a part of a supercool science experiment.”
 
what if you just funded research into resurrecting people rather than bet on future people having better medicine
also i remember how the assistants at one of these companies destroyed a baseball player's brain because the can it was propped on had become stuck to the head and they had to pry it off with a wrench
 
If boomers and silent gen had spent any amount of time being good shepherds to society, they could have MAYBE had their 90% white American sci-fi dystopia that'd bring them back from the void and welcome them to the future. None of these cryonics grifts will survive America's economic collapse. The thing about freezing yourself is that you're betting on the nation you froze yourself in to remain stable for probably hundreds of years, both politically and economically. You're also expecting industrial/medical advancement to always move forward, which will not happen with mass outsourcing/immigration.
 
I think we might reach a point, maybe, where a person can be frozen and the body returned to life.

But from what I understand, the un-talked-about problem is the brain will be a lump of neurons, at that point. Worse than a newborn. The brain is sort of like active memory in computers, it doesn't just have a record of data, it's an ongoing process.
 
Oh boy, another article that's just a thinly veiled advertisement for the subject's services! Are these the same cats that accidently melted a bunch of their cryonics subjects, or am I thinking of that company that went tits up a while back?
 
None of these cryonics grifts will survive America's economic collapse.
I'm honestly surprised Alcor's particular grift has lasted this long. I remember hearing about them 20 years ago and it still looked like the same ramshackle seat-of-the-pants operation that it looks like now.

But they're in Scottsdale so I guess they've always had a fresh crop of snowbird oldheads with a vested 401k and a fear of death that they can convince to take out a reverse mortgage.
 
I know it's cringe to make pop culture references, but Boomers are like the gods from Dark Souls; they will go to any length to maintain a quo that has long since lost its status, even at the expense of everyone else's wellbeing.

Their greed and fear of mortality will buttfuck humanity for generations to come.
Oh boy, another article that's just a thinly veiled advertisement for the subject's services! Are these the same cats that accidently melted a bunch of their cryonics subjects, or am I thinking of that company that went tits up a while back?
Bloomberg is on my office TV every day. They've made me resent capitalism more than the most erudite, theory-reading Marxist ever could.
 
You are already dead when you arrive at their doorstep, none of this elaborate preservation does anything to reverse that. In fact, all these treatments under the law are just an elaborate form of burial.

These Thanosophobic people are hoping for more than mere cures for whatever disease killed them, they're banking on being able to reverse death itself and time as well, since they might be able to jump-start your heart, memories and consciousness as we understand them don't survive the destruction of neurons by death, followed by flash-freezing, even if you could regrow the neurons, what was on them is lost forever, with no solution that doesn't somehow account for a way to pull someone's consciousness out of the ether after who knows how many centuries have passed... that's not a wish for medical science, that's a wish for magic.

And if human technology ever got that far, so that they could just recreate a person by speaking their name, why would they need your intact body to do it?!
 
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Now I want a classic Twilight Zone twist ending to the people behind this foundation.
Patient X woke up from their long slumber, the first to be resurrected from the long slumber.of cryonics. As their brain processes there new world, they recognize the world of their now is different from when they were preserved.

Instead of the warm colors of a hospital, the walls are painted with light blue, pink, and white with black and brown triangles spaced out between the primary colors.

As the capsule opens, their is a foul odor
. Quickly they check if they soiled themselves, no their garments are clean. The smell is one of rotten flesh. Then to the side, they hear footsteps approaching.

It a black man with a wig and grotesque make up
. On what appears to be the nurses uniform are a plethora of pins supporting multitude of causes some mutually contradictory. When the Black creature opens their mouth, it's just a rblr of nonsensical noises. They sound vaguely like Ebonics but it's injected with an air of narcissism.

The Black creature let's out a grunt and gives the person a tablet computer. As the Black creature speaks, the tablet slowly processes it's noises.

This...the...future, cracker! What...are...your... pronouns? Mine...are...Xir X.
 
broke: using cryogenics to preserve yourself after death
woke: From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine. Your kind cling to your flesh as if it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass you call a temple will wither and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved. For the Machine is Immortal.
 
The biggest issue with cryogenics is irreversible brain damage starts occurring immediately after death. It's where the term "brain death" comes from. The chemicals they're using to try and preserve the brain also aren't possible to remove later. In general it's a grift that is based on a fantasy that people in the future will have the means and interest in resurrecting what are essentially just corpses that paid a ton of money to a huckster company.

It's very much fantasy science to assume we'll be able to reverse this.
 
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