Movies that Aged Poorly for you

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Toy Story bothers me in a visual sense
But weirdly enough Shrek still holds up really well visually

I can understand the visuals not holding up quite as well; CGI especially...though I personally think Shrek's jokes are not quite as good as they used to be (don't get me wrong; it's still a great fairy tale deconstruction and taking potshots as Disney to boot; but the sequel/Shrek 2 has aged better if you ask me - we do not speak of the others).

For me, Quest For Camelot. If I recall, this movie came out like...right at the end of the Dark Age of Animation as it's called, right before the Disney Renaissance. When I was a kid I thought this was the absolute SHIT and loved the two-headed dragon character.

...now the songs are really...awful, the CGI is worse, and the characters are not as endearing as I remember despite the talented VAs. And I have mixed feelings about Gary Oldman's completely batshit insane character. I mean, it's great to watch him ham it up and practically devour scenery but on the other, it's hard to take someone that over the top seriously as a villain (compared to, say, Tony Jay's Judge Frollo as mentioned earlier in the thread).
 
Toy Story bothers me in a visual sense
But weirdly enough Shrek still holds up really well visually

Understandable, since Shrek was made a few years after Toy Story, when animators had a clearer grasp of what they wanted to do with CGI. The first Toy Story film still looks pretty good, in my opinion...bar some of the textures and modelling, especially with the human characters.

Anyway, I don't think you can go much worse than that late 90s Inspector Gadget live-action film, starring Matthew Broderick as the titular character. As a young-un, I fucking loved this movie; I would watch it over and over again. Shit, I think I liked it even more than the original cartoon! Looking back on it, though...yikes. At least I had a healthy supply of Disney/Pixar movies to keep me from going full-retard.

Other lowlights from my childhood include Space Jam, which has already been mentioned here, and Cats & Dogs. Anyone else remember that?
 
Hell yeah! Cats & Dogs was one of my favorites, back when I had it on VHS. I've been scared to try it again, because I know that it's probably going to be awful.

I used to love Kung Pow, until I tried to watch it again recently.
 
Growing up the film my family used to always watch at Christmas was Christmas Vacation, which I always thought was hilarious well into adulthood. However, the past few years I just haven't found the film that funny anymore. I don't think it's bad, but I just don't laugh that much watching it anymore.
 
I remember being 9 or so and staying up to watch Naked Gun and crying with laughter, and feeling shocked that adults could make a film this funny. If I see it now, I chuckle at it, but I was so crazy about it then.
 
Robin Hood: Men in Tights. Mel Brooks tends to be a bit hit-and-miss in general, but I remember thinking that film was hilarious when I was a kid. Rewatching it a couple of months ago... yeah, not really. I vaguely chuckled at one of the jokes, but I think that was more a desperate "No, it's still funny" self-justification than actual mirth.
 
Fuck, I think I had the novelization of that thing when I was younger. Saw it a few times too.

Cats and Dogs is one I remember kinda enjoying when I was young. Earlier in this thread I mentioned that I was a big fan of The Cat in the Hat with Mike Myers and Master of Disguise
 
Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers: The Movie. I used to be heavily into Power Rangers when I was a tiny kid, but holy crap that movie aged like milk. Especially the effects. https://youtube.com/watch?v=CdxxG2rf6UA
The CGI looks like something from ReBoot. How the hell did they think they'd get away with those effects in Live action, let alone a theatrical film. 1995 yeah, but remember, Toy Story was released that year, and T2 and Jurassic Park were released before.

Still, the fact that the movie ditched show continuity to begin with was a pretty glaring flaw already. That the effects (Don't even get me started on the practical effects) and cheesy writing further compound that issue doesn't help.

If there's one bright spot, it's the kickass version of the theme.
 
The CGI looks like something from ReBoot. How the hell did they think they'd get away with those effects in Live action, let alone a theatrical film. 1995 yeah, but remember, Toy Story was released that year, and T2 and Jurassic Park were released before.

Still, the fact that the movie ditched show continuity to begin with was a pretty glaring flaw already. That the effects (Don't even get me started on the practical effects) and cheesy writing further compound that issue doesn't help.

If there's one bright spot, it's the kickass version of the theme.
When I saw it when I was young, I didn't pay attention to theCGI. Nowadays it looks cheap and really doughy looking.

I think the movie was it's own thing while Season 3 of MMPR tail gated Kakuranger, only going "backwards" episode wise.

Volcano is something I saw when I was younger and remember being traumatized by the lava scenes. The scene with the firemen in the over turned truck gives me chills.

Don't get me started on Innerspace.
 
Anything based around technology that was meant to be a few years ahead, but that was then outdone by real life, or that is outdated but not old enough to be charmingly outdated. VR-themed movies don't hold up, but Wargames is still neat.

Most 90s romantic comedies have aged terribly.
Especially with young people in them. The movies feel contemporary enough that you find yourself thinking "why didn't he just text her?" or something, not realizing this was 25 years ago and email wasn't even a thing. You don't think that during The Breakfast Club, but you might during Singles or Empire Records.

Forrest Gump. For whatever reason, my Mom thought playing a VHS of Forrest Gump and exposing 4-year old me to Vietnam & AIDS was necessary for my development, and I loved it growing up. Now I can barely watch it.

At least we got that Bubba Gump shrimp restaurant out of it.
The internet and The History Channel did this movie in. It was neat to get all that nostalgia and semi-historic stuff in one place, without having to go to a book or something.
 
The '05 Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

Did they really need to make Wonka into a socially awkward mix between Michael Jackson and Chuck Barris from the Gong Show?

Also, this one wasn't something I grew up with, but does anyone remember the Billy Jack movies?

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Yeah, I didn't think so. But I'm bored so let's go:

It was the first big movie franchise ever. Our eponymous hero, a half-Navajo Vietnam veteran and martial arts expert, helps save kids from the man, man. But he doesn't like to use violence because he's just too good at killing. Because it was the seventies and hippie culture isn't dead just yet!

The first Billy Jack movie was a forgettable drive-in b-movie about bikers called The Born Losers. It had nothing to do with the other movies, I'm just putting here for completeness's sake. Tom Laughlin (who directed and starred in it as Billy Jack) had been pitching the film to Hollywood since the 50's, wanting to make a statement about discrimination against American Indians. The biker thing was added because that was popular at the time. It was a mild success but critics hated it. (It was a greater success in, of all places, Communist Hungary, where a re-edited version with Hungarian actors named Hands of Death was so popular and controversial that the government banned it three days after its initial release for being "too shocking")

Undaunted, Laughlin revisited the character with a film just called Billy Jack. This is where the films get weird. The opening narration starts like this

Hippie kid dijo:
All any of the townspeople knew about Billy Jack was that he was a half-breed. A war hero who hated the war and turned his back on society by returning to the reservation—where he watched over the Indians, the wild horses, and the kids at my school. No one even knew where he lived. Somewhere way back in the ancient ruins with an old holy man who was teaching him secret Indian ways and preparing him for a sacred initiation ceremony.

(In case you were wondering, Tom Laughlin did not have any Native American ancestry)

After The Born Losers, Billy Jack now runs an alternative high school called The Freedom School with teacher Jean Roberts (played by Laughlin's wife, Dolores Taylor. Ms. Taylor was not a professional actress, and it shows, because she seems to be having a panic attack every time she opens her mouth). The Freedom School is under attack by close-minded townspeople who don't like these long-haired freaky people and their improvisational theater, and Billy Jack goes after a local gang leader with connections to corrupt town politicians. The film is a heady rush of bizarre contradictions - a middle-aged white square's tribute to hip young people, an anti-violence film that ends with a bloody shootout, a film about hippies where the hippies shun drugs.

Despite being panned by every film critic, the film was popular with younger audiences, leading Laughlin to declare "the youth of America have two heroes: Ralph Nader and Billy Jack". It was a cultural phenomenon. Elvis Presley saw the film nine times, and Marlon Brando of all people praised the acting. Adjusted for inflation, it's still the highest-grossing American independent movie of all time (last time I checked)

So, with Laughlin now getting blank check to do whatever he wanted, he decided to make a sequel. The Trial of Billy Jack was the first movie to open nationwide on opening day, and commercials for the movie played during the nightly news.

The Trial of Billy Jack opens with tallies of people killed in real-life acts of violence, with special attention to the statistics of the Kent State and My Lai massacres. It then drops the film's first sin: "FREEDOM SCHOOL: 3 DEAD, 39 INJURED". Yes, they went there.

Apparently, ever since the first film, the Freedom School had become Coolsville USA, and have managed to become better than anyone else at everything, included at science. Somehow, they invent the most accurate lie detector of all time, which can even tell when someone is lying on tv or the radio. And guess who it detects as liars?
THE MAN, MAN.

So, the kids then make their own television station to reveal THE TRUTH.

That was the last part of the plot I comprehended - it ends up becoming a bizarre parable on Jungian psychology and Native American spirituality. The film ends with the government trying to invade the Freedom School, leading to another violent shootout, followed by...well, just read it for yourself:

They really dijo:
SOME MAY FEEL THIS PICTURE IS TOO VIOLENT…

but the real massacres which inspired this fictionalized version

were a thousand-fold more violent for those innocent people who were its victims.

Rather than direct anger at this re-creation…

please channel your energy toward those officials who either ordered, condoned, or failed to take action against these events, and perhaps towards ourselves for also turning our backs and letting such events occur unchallenged.

All we are saying is… give peace a chance.

Did I mention this movie was three fucking hours long?

While it was a success with audiences (so much so that Laughlin organized an essay writing contest where fans of the movie defended it against film critics), the series basically had nowhere else to go after that.

But he tried again, with Billy Jack Goes to Washington. Yes, a remake of Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. Unlike the last three films, it never saw wide release and died in theaters, mostly because the hippie movement had completely stopped being relevant. (Laughlin, however, blamed the government for suppressing the film to appease the nuclear energy lobby.) That didn't stop him from trying to make a fifth movie, The Return of Billy Jack, in the 80's, with our hero fighting child pornographers in New York. But Laughlin severely injured himself while filming a scene, and funding dried up.

Until his death in 2013, Laughlin tried to get the series revived through other ways, including a TV show. In 2004, disgusted by the Bush administration and the War on Terror, he tried to create a new film called Billy Jack's Crusade to End the War And Restore America to its Moral Purpose and ran for president as a Republican just so that he could debate Dubya in character as Billy Jack. (This was the second time he ran for president - the first was in 1992 as a Democrat, and he tried again in 2008 as a Democrat as well) When he didn't get to debate Bush, he went ahead with the film anyways (now retitled Billy Jack for President) and announced that he would use "state of the art digital technology" to have Bush in the film. When he died at age 82, his estate put up everything that was in the house he died in for sale on eBay to pay for Dolores Taylor's Alzheimer's treatment. There were no takers.

As a final footnote to this bizarre slice of Americana, the most famous thing related to the movies was the first film's original theme song, "One Tin Soldier (The Legend of Billy Jack)". A stirring ballad condemning human greed and short-sightedness and promoting peace and love.


The band that performed it, Coven, were Satanists. Their first album, Witchcraft Destroys Minds & Reaps Souls, included the earliest use of the words "hail satan!" in rock music, and they were one of the first bands to use inverted crosses and the horn sign in their imagery. It seems rather fitting for a film as bizarre and hypocritical as this to have a song about peace written by Satanists.

The devil really is in the details.
 
I used to enjoy the old Tobey Maguire Spider-Man movies as a kid, but over the years, I've come to find how awkwardly executed the movies were. The performances were over the top, especially on Maguire's part. I also don't think the CG has aged well either, the fight scenes being the most notable. The third movie really lost my investment narrative wise. I hated how they handled Venom by just having him appear briefly. It was a waste as far as I was concerned.
 
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