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Heckler1 dijo:
Everything about what you wrote makes me weep at the knowledge Lucha is infinitely cooler than lolmurican wrassles.
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Murican wrestlers "I'm in it to fuck whores!"
Japan "the war never ended! We'll beat the ever living shit out of you!"
Mexico "It's a fucking fiesta! Lets go!"
India "it's still real to us damn it!"
Canada "I'll be the next Bret or Owen Hart, there is no middle ground!"
Everywhere else "we exist too!"
 
The CM Punk drama is hilarious because there is absolutely zero way to find out what is happening in completely neutral terms. According to the dirtsheets, Punk is a dictator running Collision and fighting with everyone under the sun, and while I CAN believe this is happening, knowing how close Meltzer and co are to the Elite, Jericho etc. makes it real hard to take seriously. It's like brawl out, I found it funny how all the articles mentioned that the Elite only went into the locker room to 'talk' and did absolutely nothing provocative AND didn't fight back (even though Kenny literally had a bite mark in the exact area you'd bite someone to get out of a choke hold). The Elite are simply being innocent cherubs while Punk is a manchild throwing his weight around.

On the flipside Punk himself is an absolute unreliable shitrag who was exposed as a huge liar following the Cabana podcast situation and while he might have legit issues, he's an empty headed dumb fuck for publicly attacking his coworkers multiple times. The idea that Punk actually has a managerial or executive role on Collision is hilarious though. Imagine punching a coworker, seeing the company try and work out how to release you from your contract and then getting your own show and more power because the owner is a limp dicked little faggot?
 
Tom Nook's Gloryhole dijo:
The CM Punk drama is hilarious because there is absolutely zero way to find out what is happening in completely neutral terms. According to the dirtsheets, Punk is a dictator running Collision and fighting with everyone under the sun, and while I CAN believe this is happening, knowing how close Meltzer and co are to the Elite, Jericho etc. makes it real hard to take seriously. It's like brawl out, I found it funny how all the articles mentioned that the Elite only went into the locker room to 'talk' and did absolutely nothing provocative AND didn't fight back (even though Kenny literally had a bite mark in the exact area you'd bite someone to get out of a choke hold). The Elite are simply being innocent cherubs while Punk is a manchild throwing his weight around.

On the flipside Punk himself is an absolute unreliable shitrag who was exposed as a huge liar following the Cabana podcast situation and while he might have legit issues, he's an empty headed dumb fuck for publicly attacking his coworkers multiple times. The idea that Punk actually has a managerial or executive role on Collision is hilarious though. Imagine punching a coworker, seeing the company try and work out how to release you from your contract and then getting your own show and more power because the owner is a limp dicked little faggot?
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Thing is though, Meltzer isn't the only one reporting this.
 
Tom Nook's Gloryhole dijo:
The CM Punk drama is hilarious because there is absolutely zero way to find out what is happening in completely neutral terms. According to the dirtsheets, Punk is a dictator running Collision and fighting with everyone under the sun, and while I CAN believe this is happening, knowing how close Meltzer and co are to the Elite, Jericho etc. makes it real hard to take seriously. It's like brawl out, I found it funny how all the articles mentioned that the Elite only went into the locker room to 'talk' and did absolutely nothing provocative AND didn't fight back (even though Kenny literally had a bite mark in the exact area you'd bite someone to get out of a choke hold). The Elite are simply being innocent cherubs while Punk is a manchild throwing his weight around.

On the flipside Punk himself is an absolute unreliable shitrag who was exposed as a huge liar following the Cabana podcast situation and while he might have legit issues, he's an empty headed dumb fuck for publicly attacking his coworkers multiple times. The idea that Punk actually has a managerial or executive role on Collision is hilarious though. Imagine punching a coworker, seeing the company try and work out how to release you from your contract and then getting your own show and more power because the owner is a limp dicked little faggot?
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Maybe everyone involved is an egotistical asshole?
 
Onni Kalsarikännit dijo:
Maybe everyone involved is an egotistical asshole?
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Kenny has always come off as a nice guy, I don't think he even swears. Young Bucks it depends on the year but generally decent people. Page today does come off as an egotistical asshole. Just look at his car and his ideology about trannies. Instead of "I'm straight edge and that means I'm better than you" he comes off as this one guy on 4pleb who had a stroke and said he was better than everyone else because he was a Leftist, on "the winning side", and liked guzzling down tranny juices by the gallon. Said person hasn't been seen for three months now. I hoped they hung themselves.
 
Anonymus Fluhre dijo:
Kenny has always come off as a nice guy, I don't think he even swears. Young Bucks it depends on the year but generally decent people. Page today does come off as an egotistical asshole. Just look at his car and his ideology about trannies. Instead of "I'm straight edge and that means I'm better than you" he comes off as this one guy on 4pleb who had a stroke and said he was better than everyone else because he was a Leftist, on "the winning side", and liked guzzling down tranny juices by the gallon. Said person hasn't been seen for three months now. I hoped they hung themselves.
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Kenny did a podcast a few weeks/months ago, before Collision started, together with Moxley's wife. She asked him about the Punk situation and he sounded some kind of apologetic. Or forgiving. I don't know who to explain it prober. But he sounded like he would be open to work with Punk again.

Jericho, who called Punk a cancer, showed up on Collision already and I remember reports stating that he and Punk allegedly would have solved their issues.

And I guess Cobana can be taken out off the situation. The only thing I remember about him talking about the situation was after the press conference when he was on a live stream and joked about the stuff Punk said about him.
 
XYZpdq Jr. dijo:
don't be sad that it's over, be glad that it happened
Pentagon Jr as unstoppable force that needs about half the roster to stop, Drago as literally a fucking dragon, Ricochet as somebody interesting, in hindsight it's hard to believe it ever existed
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its wild to me still how almost everyone in lucha underground felt like a big deal in some way. like even a guy like marty the moth who was just doing basic crazy person stuff had an aura around him. they were also able to get a good match out of an old injured vampiro. the magic of pre taping at work.
Tom Nook's Gloryhole dijo:
The CM Punk drama is hilarious because there is absolutely zero way to find out what is happening in completely neutral terms. According to the dirtsheets, Punk is a dictator running Collision and fighting with everyone under the sun, and while I CAN believe this is happening, knowing how close Meltzer and co are to the Elite, Jericho etc. makes it real hard to take seriously. It's like brawl out, I found it funny how all the articles mentioned that the Elite only went into the locker room to 'talk' and did absolutely nothing provocative AND didn't fight back (even though Kenny literally had a bite mark in the exact area you'd bite someone to get out of a choke hold). The Elite are simply being innocent cherubs while Punk is a manchild throwing his weight around.

On the flipside Punk himself is an absolute unreliable shitrag who was exposed as a huge liar following the Cabana podcast situation and while he might have legit issues, he's an empty headed dumb fuck for publicly attacking his coworkers multiple times. The idea that Punk actually has a managerial or executive role on Collision is hilarious though. Imagine punching a coworker, seeing the company try and work out how to release you from your contract and then getting your own show and more power because the owner is a limp dicked little faggot?
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punks been giving off some major wcw hogan vibes as of late. like i refuse to believe he has to be the main event of every single collision and have his own championship.

either this is some top level story planning and is gonna some how lead into kenny omega vs cm punk where the loser leaves aew forever or tony is just letting punk do whatever he wants because he is a cm punk mark at heart.

however you wanna look at it if the only reason punk is staying in aew is because he is getting every single thing he could ever want tony is more spineless than i had ever imagined.

its one thing if punk showing up got a big crowd reaction but from what i have seen he seems to be slowly working his way towards that awkward mix of cheers and boos that john cena had back when he would never lose.
 
Onni Kalsarikännit dijo:
Kenny did a podcast a few weeks/months ago, before Collision started, together with Moxley's wife. She asked him about the Punk situation and he sounded some kind of apologetic. Or forgiving. I don't know who to explain it prober. But he sounded like he would be open to work with Punk again.

Jericho, who called Punk a cancer, showed up on Collision already and I remember reports stating that he and Punk allegedly would have solved their issues.

And I guess Cobana can be taken out off the situation. The only thing I remember about him talking about the situation was after the press conference when he was on a live stream and joked about the stuff Punk said about him.
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Colt Cabana is on any show The Bucks are on as he's usually seen on BTE doing stuff with Brandon. A good way to know if Phil will be on a show is to check who's backstage now. Not sure how the All In show will work out if Phil's on the card. Keep them in two separate locations in Wembley? How far apart are the locker rooms there because not many people want to work with him now.

Guess Phil is having issues with Jack Perry now too. He's been such a good investment lol.
Apparently it was because Jack wanted to do a glass spot back stage and Phil shot that down as a safety concern and that led to an exchange of words. Let's just forget that there's way to make it safe for both parties. All they needed was advance prep time for it.

Collision also got 476k views.
 
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trent dijo:
There's also rumors going around that Punk wanted to be in the G1 this year.

Can you imagine his bitch-fit when he got stiffed 10 seconds into his first match?
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He couldn't even handle Ryback. What hope would he have there?
Zack would have broken Brittle Bone Phil, Ishii would have beaten the shit out of him, as would Eddie, Kenta would have had a shoot fight with him. I doubt he'd sell for Yano.
 
Lacey Evans is gone, thanks to noseman. He couldn't see star power potential if it hit him in his wannabe jew nose. Now we're stuck with Trish and some that are fine but mostly ugly bitches. God, why couldn't he fire hideous spotlight hogger Charlotte Flair? She's so plastic she looks like a tranny mixed with the Bogdonoffs.
 
Francis Eduardo Decarlos dijo:
Lacey Evans is gone, thanks to noseman. He couldn't see star power potential if it hit him in his wannabe jew nose. Now we're stuck with Trish and some that are fine but mostly ugly bitches. God, why couldn't he fire hideous spotlight hogger Charlotte Flair? She's so plastic she looks like a tranny mixed with the Bogdonoffs.
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Don't worry, she's thinking about going to OnlyFans for fans like you.
 
I was watching this video on The Road Warriors earlier and it just hit me like a sack of bricks. the intro alone just encapsulates why wrestling was so great in the 80's and 90s and why it will never again be this awesome.


Just look at all those fans and watch how they react...this was an era where the heels felt like actual monsters being released from a cage somewhere. You don't get that at all anymore. Sort of like getting a small taste of The Colosseum...I can only imagine how it felt being in the arena. Just comparing the two nowadays is embarassing. It seems like most modern wrestling fans are those awful "smart mark" internet types you started seeing around the early to mid 2000's talking about it like they were an unofficial member of the creative team or something...back then it was true carnival shit, legitimate entertainment spectacle.

Probably a foregone conclusion for most of you here, but I don't spend much time following wrestling. I kept wondering what was missing for the longest time, because it just felt so different. After watching the video above, it's hard to believe that this is an image of the same product:

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Cats dijo:
Just look at all those fans and watch how they react...this was an era where the heels felt like actual monsters being released from a cage somewhere. You don't get that at all anymore.
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You don't get that nowadays bc 1) kayfabe is dead (unfortunately) and 2) everyone pulls out his fucking shitphone to record the guy going to the record. God, I fucking hate all these phonefags. I really do.
 
Cats dijo:
I was watching this video on The Road Warriors earlier and it just hit me like a sack of bricks. the intro alone just encapsulates why wrestling was so great in the 80's and 90s and why it will never again be this awesome.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=kDGtSwjdH4s
Just look at all those fans and watch how they react...this was an era where the heels felt like actual monsters being released from a cage somewhere. You don't get that at all anymore. Sort of like getting a small taste of The Colosseum...I can only imagine how it felt being in the arena. Just comparing the two nowadays is embarassing. It seems like most modern wrestling fans are those awful "smart mark" internet types you started seeing around the early to mid 2000's talking about it like they were an unofficial member of the creative team or something...back then it was true carnival shit, legitimate entertainment spectacle.
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Nowadays the best you get is Malakai Black and Brody King, and lesser extent now, Lance Archer. Kruger on the indies, Black Taurus and PCO in Impact. There are no real monster heels or even proper heels. Just people doing heelish things. That can work, but only if one or two people are doing it, not every bad guy on the roster. I guess you can say Christian is a proper heel given how he treated his daughter one day and always saying that he wished peoples fathers died, how he fucked their mother, and told them that they should join their father in grave, but that's more funny in this age than anything else.

Please tell me the Wembley Stadium Stampede match will spill over into Phils dressing room "accidently".

Holy shit, JR is sounding worse and worse.
So The Jackal was giving Kenny steroids at a young age...That's different for a heel.
 
Onni Kalsarikännit dijo:
They could literally cut of Orange's fist with a chainsaw during a match and he would still do a superman punch with the fistless arm and win.
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It should only be used as a set up move for the Beach Break.
"Lets go drink some Budlight and beat up some rednecks" perfect heel heat.
 
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