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Ham Radio Enthusiasts vs. High-Frequency Traders: A Battle for the Airwaves
The Wall Street Journal (archive.ph)
By Alexander Osipovich
2023-08-05 14:00:00GMT

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A shortwave antenna outside Chicago used by a high-frequency trading firm. Jamie Kelter Davis for The Wall Street Journal

Ham radio operators are sounding the alarm over the latest threat to their beloved hobby—and this time, it is coming from Wall Street.

A group of high-frequency trading firms is asking the Federal Communications Commission to open shortwave frequencies to greater commercial use, so they can use radio to zip financial data around the world in milliseconds.

Prominent members of the amateur-radio community say interference from traders’ broadcasts could ruin their hobby, which often involves tuning in to weak radio signals so they can chat with fellow hams in faraway places. Hundreds of hams have filed letters with the FCC opposing the traders’ proposal, and some have railed against the plan in YouTube videos.

Brock Fansler is among those speaking out. A 40-year-old Los Angeles resident with shoulder-length hair, he likes using his radio to send digital data about weather conditions to other hams. He complains that the traders are looking to transmit with up to 20,000 watts of power, whereas amateurs are capped at 1,500 watts, and many use off-the-shelf radios with 100 watts.

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Shortwave is useful when HFT firms need to send rapid updates about price moves across oceans. Jaime Kelter Davis for The Wall Street Journal

“They’re asking for an insane amount of power,” Fansler said. “It’s like having neighbors move in with a drum set and guitar. This is going to be blasted all over the planet, with how much wattage they’re going to put behind it.”

The group behind the proposal, called the Shortwave Modernization Coalition, says such fears are overblown. The coalition—whose members include such trading giants as Jump Trading Group, DRW Holdings and Virtu Financial —says it has already been using shortwave for several years and there haven’t been any verified complaints of interference.

“The proposed power limit is consistent with, and in many cases lower than, the levels used in these frequencies set aside for certain commercial uses,” a coalition spokeswoman said.

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High-frequency traders have been in a yearslong arms race to execute transactions as fast as possible, or else risk losing money to speedier rivals.

In their quest for speed, HFT firms have located their computers in exchanges’ data centers, to avoid wasting fractions of a second transmitting buy or sell orders over computer cables. They have built arrays of microwave towers between Chicago and New York to beam data between markets, while exploring new kinds of cable and even satellite networks.

Shortwave is useful when HFT firms need to send rapid updates about price moves across oceans—for instance, from U.S. futures markets in Chicago to European futures markets in Frankfurt. The usual way to send data from one continent to another is undersea fiber-optic cable. But light moves more slowly through glass cables than through air, so it is faster to use radio—specifically, in shortwave frequencies. That allows waves to bounce up and down off the ionosphere, an upper layer of the atmosphere, allowing them to propagate around the globe.

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FCC filings show this antenna near Chicago is licensed to 10Band, part of a joint venture between Jump Trading Group and Virtu Financial. Photo: Jamie Kelter Davis for The Wall Street Journal

Sending data from Chicago to Frankfurt is nine milliseconds quicker by shortwave than by undersea cable, according to data from Deutsche Börse. That is less time than it takes for a hummingbird to flap its wings.

As ultrafast traders have pushed into shortwave, they have aroused the ire of hams such as Matthew Penttila.

Penttila, a 51-year-old mechanic in Blackstone, Mass., routinely uses shortwave radio to chat with hams in other states and countries. Once he even spoke to a cosmonaut aboard the Mir space station, he recalled.

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Matthew Penttila uses shortwave radio to chat with ham enthusiasts in other states and countries. Photo: Matthew Penttila

He is indignant that the traders want to use shortwave to save milliseconds and juice their profits.

“I’m just a regular, ordinary guy. I work 2 to 10:30 five days a week to try and keep a roof over my head and food on the table for my family. And these guys are going to try and exploit this for millions and billions of dollars. It just doesn’t seem right,” Penttila said.

If the FCC approves the traders’ petition, Penttila worries it will lead to further encroachment by private firms into bands of the radio spectrum used by amateurs.

“It becomes the camel’s nose under the tent. As soon as it gets its nose under there, it’s going to keep working, and the next thing you know it’s going to take the whole tent down,” he said.

An FCC spokesman said: “We appreciate the importance of amateur radio and make every effort to ensure spectrum uses do not interfere with each other.”

The Shortwave Modernization Coalition says it isn’t looking to grab amateur frequencies. Its petition has a narrower aim: to allow business licenses for the type of fixed, long-distance, point-to-point shortwave data transmissions used by HFT firms. Current FCC rules don’t allow such licenses. Instead, traders have mostly relied on temporary licenses for radio experiments. But experimental licenses generally aren’t intended to be used for commercial activities, and firms that use them for trading are operating in a legal gray area, according to industry veterans.

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Leonard Gucciardo says increased interference could render his radio equipment useless. Photo: Leonard Gucciardo

“The big companies have always been nervous that their experimental licenses could get shut down,” said Dave Gustafson, a former head of wireless engineering at Jump.

The roots of ham radio date to the late 19th century. Today there are about 760,000 amateur radio operators in the U.S., according to ARRL, the national association for amateur radio. ARRL says the ham population has climbed in recent years, defying predictions that the internet or social media would kill the hobby’s appeal.

Still, many amateur-radio clubs are dominated by retired men, sparking periodic jitters that there aren’t enough engaged young people to keep the hobby alive.

Leonard Gucciardo, a 62-year-old retired electrical engineer on Long Island, said he worries that traders’ broadcasts could prevent newcomers from embracing ham radio and the financial investment it requires. He estimates that he has spent more than $20,000 on radio equipment and fears that increased interference could render such equipment useless.

“Picture investing $25,000 on equipment, and it becomes a dinosaur that you just can’t use anymore,” he said.

The traders’ proposals have sparked a visceral response from many hams because radio is a way of life, said Rich Donahue, a 62-year-old from South Dakota who spends much of his time on the road in a 22-foot camper, traveling to ham conventions.

“They’re very passionate about their radio communications,” Donahue said. “They get up in the morning, they get a cup of coffee and get on the radio to talk to their friends.”
 
If you care about 9ms that much.... how much encryption and error detection do your put into your system? I suppose I would expect a checksum of some sort, but I'd guess they're transmitting unencrypted in order to avoid the time cost of encrypting then decrypting. If one player is encrypting and another isn't, the whole theory that brought the game this far would suggest the unencrypted one should get a threatening advantage anyways.

With that in mind: A malicious minded opponent could listen in, figure out the data format, and do something fun. By fun I mean spoofing a fake signal to trick the high frequency trading machine to suddenly make an incredibly wrong trade automatically. Do it for profit, do it for malice, do it for chaos, whatever.

That said, I swear I heard something years ago about plans to build a series of towers to use laser transmission of data for the same purpose, which would have the same speed but fewer vulnerabilities.

For those who are wondering when this high frequency game started by the way: the 1700s. France had semaphore towers that allowed for faster-than-horseback transmission of data. There was a conspiracy by some market traders, current operators, and former operators of the system to insert a character followed by "ignore previous character" into the messages in order to transmit market data between market hubs.
 
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This is fucked up.. These parasitic marketers who have pretty much ruined the western/1st world, are now trying to take over airwaves too. Also unless these people are talking about a general public use communication system then doubly fuck them! High speed traders gaming the system.
 
This is fucked up.. These parasitic marketers who have pretty much ruined the western/1st world, are now trying to take over airwaves too. Also unless these people are talking about a general public use communication system then doubly fuck them! High speed traders gaming the system.
I think high frequency traders have a side benefit where networking and related technologies are actually advancing faster to take care of their needs, and that could trickle down to others. But other than that they are parasites.
 
If one player is encrypting and another isn't, the whole theory that brought the game this far would suggest the unencrypted one should get a threatening advantage anyways.
For what it's worth, ham radio in the US isn't legally allowed to use encryption.

And even if I didn't care about radio at all, there is no legitimate use for high frequency trading. Trying to reduce latency by 9ms isn't soberly processing market data, it's high speed computer driven gambling. Fuck them and everything they stand for. Enforce a minimum of one minute ownership of stock and bonds, sink the whole enterprise.
 
HFT, much like HRT, is useless and does nothing whatsoever other than pointlessly increasing market volatility. We need a financial transactions tax to put a stop to it and the sooner the better. We could easily eliminate the long-term capital gains tax with the proceeds from such a transaction tax, further rewarding people who invest in companies for the long term.

Either that or a 100% capital gains tax on investments held for 1 day or less. Day gamblers traders can get fucked too, the stock market is supposed to be for investment.
 
For what it's worth, ham radio in the US isn't legally allowed to use encryption.

And even if I didn't care about radio at all, there is no legitimate use for high frequency trading. Trying to reduce latency by 9ms isn't soberly processing market data, it's high speed computer driven gambling. Fuck them and everything they stand for. Enforce a minimum of one minute ownership of stock and bonds, sink the whole enterprise.
Congress would never let that pass
 
HAM is critical for backup comms, heck, the most HAM civilian gear has potentiometers that if used, will open it up for military frequencies and that's by design, so that radio operators can be drafted in emergencies.

Every flood, every disaster, every blackout, required those elderly fat fucks who talk to another fat fuck in Australia to coordinate rescue radio operations when there's no cell service.
I recommend anyone to get a 20$ baofeng and get started in the hobby, and no, the FCC or whatever in your country won't get your not having a license unless you start being retarded and jamming repeater frequencies from the same spot for several times.
 
We need a financial transactions tax to put a stop to it and the sooner the better.
If you’re a little guy, you have to pay short term capital gains taxes and trading fees for every trade. If you’re big, somehow those rules don’t apply and they can trade for free and pay taxes on their net gains for the year. HFT would be unprofitable if they had to play by the same rules that retail traders do.
 
I recommend anyone to get a 20$ baofeng and get started in the hobby, and no, the FCC or whatever in your country won't get your not having a license unless you start being retarded and jamming repeater frequencies from the same spot for several times.
Baofengs are shit if you do need to stick to the law though. Like if you're in the sticks no one will care if you're fucking around, but for those of us in urban areas there is no shortage of fudds who'll squeal on you for rules breaking.

The cheap baofengs aren't certified for basically any ranges. They're shit chinesium garbage.
 
Baofengs are shit if you do need to stick to the law though. Like if you're in the sticks no one will care if you're fucking around, but for those of us in urban areas there is no shortage of fudds who'll squeal on you for rules breaking.

The cheap baofengs aren't certified for basically any ranges. They're shit chinesium garbage.
True, but it's a cheap start into the Hobby, i don't see folks paying 200$ for a yaesu for the first time.
 
Ya, read a bit about this in the latest issue of The Spectrum Monitor. They have sent the FCC a 100+ page application, RM-11953, can comment on it.

Have some knowledge of HF propagation. Wonder which frequencies these people want to use. 9-12 MHz are usually good all the time, but atmospherics/solar storms/etc. affect propagation. Could be that the receiving equipment has gear to pull in and clean up the signals.

Sure would like to know the amount saved/made between the two modes. Associated equipment/facilities and manpower can't be cheap.
 
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During the height of the Cold War, many countries across the globe operated what were called Over the Horizon Radar or "backscatter" systems. These massive, powerful radar arrays like the famous Duga Radar nicknamed the "Russian Woodpecker" sent out 10 to 50 megawatts of power across the HF spectrum and occupied 30 to 150 kHz of bandwidth at a time. There were many similar installations that utilized the refractive properties of the HF spectrum to detect potential incoming ballistic missile threats as a part of a early warning system. The United States also had a few, with the most notable being the transmitter array in Christmas Valley, Oregon.

These sites were continually dumping tens of millions of watts into the ionosphere. But none of this ended the amateur radio hobby. Occasionally when night would fall and propagation conditions would change HAMs could pick up the sound of the Duga Radar's 10 Hz rhythmic tapping noise which gave it it's nickname. While this was a nuisance to some operators, it never disrupted any ability to communicate or had any impact on signal quality. There are still OTH radars operational today that utilize the HF spectrum.

This is the HAM community being sensationalist. As someone with a lot of background and experience with the amateur radio community I can't stress enough how the deregulation and commercialization of the HAM bands was an inevitability. These people have done nothing to protect their hobby or get other people interested in it. I had to tard wrangle my local club into setting up an email for their website. A hobby in which the entire goal is communication did not have a email on their site. I could write down a laundry list of things I hate about these backwards baby boomers but I would run out of space.

The rules for HAM radio are archaic. FCC Part 97, which governs most of the amateur side of things has not been updated or amended since 1981.

Baofengs are shit if you do need to stick to the law though. Like if you're in the sticks no one will care if you're fucking around, but for those of us in urban areas there is no shortage of fudds who'll squeal on you for rules breaking.

The cheap baofengs aren't certified for basically any ranges. They're shit chinesium garbage.
Baofeng's are perfectly acceptable starter radios. There are no HAM fudds anymore. They're all dead. Unless you are doing something stupid like actively jamming a county's jail frequency for two and a half years straight the FCC does not have the logistical or judicial capacity to bring any action against you. There is no established case law for infractions like "having spurious emissions that exceed 16dBM" or "transmitting with a baud rate greater than 300 symbols a second" (47 CFR § 97.307) or even any fines I could find issued in the past 3 decades.

There is also an entire world of HAM radio lolcows called "lids" who call each other niggers and tell each other they are going to take a gun and show up to their house and kill them on a daily basis and they somehow still have their license.

Also, be sure to check out N9OGL, our very own HAM lolcow on the farms. Even he still has his license despite being an actual domestic terrorist.
 
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Baofeng's are perfectly acceptable starter radios.
I've got a couple of them. I guess I'm just buttmad that they can't be legally used for MURS channels.
There are no HAM fudds anymore. They're all dead. Unless you are doing something stupid like actively jamming a county's jail frequency for two and a half years straight the FCC does not have the logistical or judicial capacity to bring any action against you.
Really? I hear people talk about ham fudds snitching but you're right in that it's probably exaggerated / nonsense.
 
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