CBDC Legislation Watch Megathread - The People Vs Financial Tyranny

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Recently, legislation for the groundwork for Central Bank Digital Currencies has been submitted to the legislative branches of the following states:



These bills are each called the Uniform Commercial Code. Their stated purpose is "clarifying scope of certain definitions; clarifying requirements for establishing control of electronic chattel paper; codification; effective date." but they really exist to establish the groundwork for CBDCs. They're being introduced by the interstate law group called the Uniform Law Commission, a group dedicated to interstate uniformity and centralization in law.

In the interest of getting everyone up to speed on the situation and why this is a bad thing, I'll go over the myriad of existing or proposed financial systems contesting for financial supremacy in the world today.

There are currently four contenders for the primary means of electronic payment mediums: Electronic Funds Transfer, Crypto Currencies, FedNow and Central Bank Digital Currencies. Here I will go over a brief bio of each, starting with automated clearing systems.

Electronic Funds Transfer is the generic term for traditional systems of the automatic financial transaction systems we currently have in place. Such systems include the Automatic Clearing House used primarily by the United States, Bankers' Automated Clearing System in the United Kingdom & Single Euro Payments Area for Europe and Africa. Up until the 1950s, you had to use a paper check to put money in your account or give money to another account. However, with the advent of computers resulting from the war efforts of World War 2, banks began looking into using computers to streamline monetary transfers between financial institutions.

Before the Internet was invented in 1983, the United Kingdom formed the Electronics Sub-Committee of the Committee of London Clearing Bankers in 1950 to begin the process of creating the first banking intranet system in the world. In 1968, the Bankers Clearing House would have their "Hello World" moment in their computer room, and then in 1971 they moved to repurposing a warehouse in Edgware to house servers for handling transactions and onboarding other banks by invite-only.

Meanwhile, banks located in California began to look into making their own EFT systems in parallel with the UK, seeking specifically to replace checks. The first American bank to start its own EFT system was the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco in 1972. This would come to be known as the ACH system.

There are currently two types of EFT systems in the banking world, one for low volume, high value instant transactions, and one for high volume, low value, scheduled batch transactions. The U.S. models are the ACH system and the Real-Time Gross Settlement system. ACH systems work in bulk operations and have standard waiting periods for transfers called a net settlement system where transactions aren't settled until the end of a business day and is reserved for low priority transactions like payroll, whereas RTGS is used for instant transfer of high priority transactions and are handled individually on a case-by-case basis with no wait period. RTGS systems are used by central banks for low volume, high value transactions with no wait period, whereas standard EFT systems are used by regional banks for high volume, low value transactions with a (business) daily wait period.

The way an RTGS system transfers money is not by sending money from one place to the other, but by lowering funds in Bank A while increasing funds in Bank B directly to represent the transfer. These transfers are immediate, irrevocable and final. Net settlement systems are also controlled by central banks, by which at the end of each day, the inter-institution transactions are accounted for and the central bank adjusts the accounts of each institution accordingly. Most if not all countries have both an ACH and RTGS equivalent, such as the UK with their CHAPS equivalent to RTGS.

SEPA, being an international and intercontinental system, took far longer to implement. It required a laundry list of treaties and regulations spanning 64 years (to give you an idea of how patient globalists are), the creation of its own coinage and paper money, and it largely exists as a transfer medium from one country's currency to the other (like a crypto) since it can't make direct transfers from one currency to another and only uses the Euro.

EFTs are the modern standard by which all banking is operated under, and created the advent of automated teller machines, direct deposits, direct debits, credit, transfers by phone, purchases online, wire transfers, instant payments and electronic bill payments.

Crypto Currencies, starting with Bitcoin, were created in response to economic crashes like that of the 2008 housing market crash. The point of Crypto Currencies is to provide a decentralized currency which no government or bank can control, placing currency back in the hands of the people. This is instrumental in helping people in crashing nations like Venezuela make ends meet by using Crypto in place of their failed socialist currency, but it's also been a boon for criminals online, one such example is the Silk Road deep web store for narcotics. El Salvador even made Bitcoin their national currency, but with poor results. Kiwi Farms largely runs on Crypto such as the Basic Attention Token which can be procured by enabling ads through the Brave browser. Since anyone can mint a Crypto and sell it, it's been subject to all sorts of scams such as rug-pull scams.

Rather than using a bank account, you get a Crypto wallet, and instead of a bank ledger, there's the Crypto's blockchain which serves the same function as a ledger, which shows all transactions that have ever occurred. Anyone can mint or mine their own Crypto if they have the processing power to run the math it takes to produce a new Crypto coin.

As governments around the world have become more aware of Crypto giving their peasant class more financial mobility, they've grown to hate it as it circumvents their power, and are seeking new ways to kick it off the World Wide Web. Crypto can be banned but it can't be stopped, it cannot be regulated out of existence, and this is something governments hate. Governments around the world have tried many ways to circumvent the mining of Crypto such as attempting to pass legislation on what kind of video card you can buy, or how big of a power supply unit you can use, blaming Crypto mining and usage on global warming.

FedNow is essentially an RTGS system for proles, it will allow 24/7 transfers for every day of the year. FedNow will also allow direct transfers from one bank account to another, rather than waiting on daily batch transactions like in the ACH system. FedNow shows promise for killing CBDCs in the crib as it solves 90% of the transaction efficiency problems. With any luck, FedNow will make CBDCs irrelevant, but only for the free world. FedNow being the death of CBDCs is the good ending. This is the thing that Null wants.

However, we don't get the luxury of receiving that ending uncontested, hence the purpose of this thread.

Central Bank Digital Currencies are Crypto-inspired digital currencies which will use smart contracts to control what each unit of said currency can be spent on, how long it lasts before it expires in your account and allows top-down monitoring of your financial transactions 24/7, wherein the Federal Reserve will have sole and central control of the CBDC ledger. CBDCs are being pitched as a safer alternative to traditional banking and more regulated than Crypto Currencies. Essentially, take the qualities of each and fuse them together for a centralized, authoritarian control over your finances the likes of which would make Trudeau blush.

In essence, it would allow the unaccountable Federal Reserve and all central banks to possess unilateral control of every country in which they plant their roots into, and they seek to control the globe. This means that any government that implements CBDCs are essentially ceding control of their own nations to a Central Bank. Every government of every nation would be reduced to a puppet of a Central Bank, as they could punish or reward politicians for their policies by freezing or increasing their bank funds, extending the expiration date on existing bank funds or broadening what those funds can be spent on. You do not get to choose what you buy and you do not get to save money, spend or die.

It should come as no surprise that once CBDCs arrive, they'll soon be followed by Digital ID and Social Credit Scores to spy on your speech and punish you for said speech. Did you dissent against the government in any way? Were you rude to the clerk at the DMV? Did you say something defiant of the Federal Reserve? Congratulations, your Digital ID, your holdings, your bank account, your debts and all identifying information on you has been deleted, you are now a nameless, rootless, illegal immigrant in your own country.

What's more is that there will be two systems of CBDCs, one for proles and the other for elites, where the elites will have more leniency to enjoy "luxuries" like eating meat, whereas the proles will have to live with far more stringent and depriving circumstances, such as living in a 15 minute city that have metal gates to keep people from driving outside of the city's limits.

The introduction of CBDCs will also mean the elimination of printed legal tender monetary bills, meaning that you won't have the ability to liquidate your bank funds for paper money and will be stuck with digital money on the Central Bank's ledger only, you will not be able to trade funds in private at all, and you'll have a third party watching over and controlling all your transactions from thereon. The Central Bank wouldn't be able to feasibly enact such draconian, tyrannical control on your finances if you retained the option to use paper money, so obviously paper money needs to be abolished for them to exercise the amount of control they want to have. They'll most likely argue that only criminals want paper money since paper money is anonymous, but the real reason is because they can't micromanage your life if paper money remains optional.

As of right now, there are legislative teams in the U.S. trying to set the stage for CBDCs to circumvent U.S. financial sovereignty by introducing bills to covertly prevent certain states from rejecting CBDCs in the future. That is the reason I've created this thread.

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The World Economic Forum, their affiliates & their globalist bid for universal control are threatened by the prevalence of Crypto Currencies, stating that they pose a threat to the financial system:


The Financial Stability Oversight Council warned that cryptocurrencies could pose risks to the financial system if their overall scale or link with traditional banking grows without regulation and oversight.

“The rapid growth of digital asset activities, including stablecoins and lending and borrowing on digital assets trading platforms, is an important emerging vulnerability,” the FSOC said in a new report Monday.

The FSOC — created following the financial crisis to monitor threats to the financial system — says potential drops in asset prices, financial exposures between crypto firms, funding mismatches and the risk of runs, and the use of leverage are all risks to the financial system.

Many crypto-asset activities lack basic rules to protect against the risk of runs or prevent high levels of leverage, according the report. Regulators say there are major gaps in the regulation of crypto assets. And since crypto firms lack consistent, uniform regulations, authorities say they can take advantage of gaps in the regulatory system.

“Crypto-asset prices appear to be primarily driven by speculation rather than grounded in current fundamental economics,” the report says.

The council — composed of the heads of major federal financial regulatory agencies, including Treasury, the Federal Reserve, and the Securities & Exchange Commission — views stablecoins as the most pressing risk. Regulators, who have voiced concerns about stablecoins as far back as last November, say stablecoins are susceptible to runs if not regulated with capital and liquidity standards. Officials point to the run on algorithmic stablecoin TerraUST this spring that led to a separate, though less severe run, on Tether, the largest stablecoin measured by market cap.

Authorities also see vulnerability where stablecoin issuers hold assets in the traditional financial system. They say traditional asset markets could experience dislocations if stablecoin activities were to reach significant scale and if runs on stablecoins were to lead to fire sales of traditional assets like Treasuries or commercial paper backing the stablecoins.

The report notes that while interconnections with the traditional financial system are relatively limited, they could potentially increase rapidly. Officials offer the example where banks could increase exposures to crypto markets through lending and securing loans with crypto assets. It notes, though, that overall, the level of involvement by the banking system in crypto is “relatively low” right now and banks’ overall balance sheet exposure to crypto remains limited.

Another area regulators point to as a glaring gap: limited direct federal oversight of the spot market for crypto assets that are not securities. The report notes markets may not have strong rules to ensure orderly and transparent trading, prevent conflicts of interest and market manipulation, and protect investors and the economy more broadly.

Given the risks, FSOC offers 10 recommendations to rein in the risks of crypto, including Congress passing new legislation to give regulators authority over the spot market for crypto assets that aren’t securities; legislation to regulate stablecoins; and legislation that would give regulators authority to see across a crypto firm’s full business that has multiple subsidiaries operating under different regulations.

The report also encourages agencies to continue to enforce existing rules and regulations and coordinate with each other to regulate crypto companies, such as stablecoin issuers or crypto-asset platforms, particularly in cases where different players with similar activities may be subject to different regulations.

This report comes at the direction of President Biden’s executive order in March that tasked federal government agencies with studying cryptocurrencies and proposing how to best regulate them. The U.S. Treasury warned in three new reports last month that cryptocurrencies pose meaningful risks for consumers, investors, and businesses if not properly regulated. The FSOC has been monitoring cryptocurrencies and distributed ledger technology since 2015.

The FSOC says it will continue to monitor risks posed by crypto.

In the wake of the dollar inflation due to the Covid-19 lockdowns, Silicon Valley Bank couldn't keep up with their fiduciary obligations because of the Fed rate hike, and to compensate they started to liquidate assets. When that happened, their shareholders learned about it and they pulled out from the company, which devalued and crashed SVB's value.

Instead of acknowledging this as the real cause for the bank runs, the powers that be are angling to blame bank runs on Crypto, instead of what really happened.

Silicon Valley Bank Collapse Sets Off Blame Game in Tech Industry​

The implosion of the Silicon Valley bank led to finger-pointing, as executives and investors jumped on the crisis for their own messaging.

SAN FRANCISCO — For once, the crisis didn’t seem to revolve around a cryptocurrency company.

The sudden collapse of Silicon Valley Bank on Friday set off panic across the technology industry. But crypto executives and investors — who have endured a year of near-constant upheaval — seized on the moment to preach and scold.

Centralized banking was to blame, the crypto advocates said. Their vision of an alternate financial system, unmoored from big banks and other gatekeepers, was better. They argued that the government regulators that recently cracked down on crypto firms had sown the seeds of the bank’s implosion.

“Fiat is fragile,” wrote the Bitcoin advocate Erik Voorhees, using a common shorthand for traditional currencies.

“We’re seeing glitches in the machine,” said Mo Shaikh, chief executive of the crypto company Aptos Labs. “This is an opportunity to take a breath and consider the practicalities of decentralization.”

But the tone quickly shifted, as a major crypto company revealed late Friday that it had billions of dollars trapped in Silicon Valley Bank. A so-called stablecoin designed to maintain a constant value of $1 suddenly dipped in price, sending shudders through the market.

And the finger-pointing went in both directions. Some tech investors argued that the crypto world’s procession of bad actors and overnight collapses had conditioned people to panic at the first sign of trouble, setting the stage for the crisis at Silicon Valley Bank. In November, FTX, the crypto exchange run by Sam Bankman-Fried, went out of business after the crypto equivalent of a bank run exposed an enormous hole in its accounts.

“That’s the pattern recognition too many have,” said Joe Marchese, an investor at the venture capital firm Human Ventures.

The blame game is a sign of the factionalism in the tech industry, where hot start-ups and trends come and go and crises can be used to advance agendas. As Silicon Valley Bank imploded, crypto advocates blamed the structures of the traditional finance system for sowing instability. Some venture investors blamed the social media panic that touched off the bank run. Others blamed the government for its economic policies, or the bank itself for poor management and worse communication.

The debate is unfolding after a tumultuous year for tech companies in which the crypto industry entered a monthslong meltdown and some of the largest Silicon Valley firms conducted mass layoffs.

“People are just traumatized. They’re financially shellshocked,” said Sam Kazemian, the founder of the crypto project Frax. “As soon as you see something, you wonder if there’s fire over there because it smells like smoke. And then you treat it like everything is burning and get out while you still can.”

Silicon Valley Bank started wobbling on Wednesday, when it revealed that it had lost nearly $2 billion and announced it would sell off assets to meet demand for withdrawals. The news set off fear in the tech industry, as start-ups rushed to get their money out.

As often happens in bank runs, those concerns became a self-fulfilling prophecy. On Friday, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation announced that it was taking control of Silicon Valley Bank, marking the largest bank failure since the 2008 financial crisis. Tech companies with money deposited in the bank scrambled to pay employees and vendors.

Silicon Valley Bank was in “sound financial condition prior to March 9,” according to an order from California’s Department of Financial Protection and Innovation. It became insolvent after investors and depositors caused a run on its holdings, the order said.

Silicon Valley Bank appears to have had a relatively small footprint in the crypto industry. Historically, many large banks have resisted working with crypto companies, given the legal uncertainty surrounding much of the business.

“A lot of crypto start-ups had a very hard time onboarding onto Silicon Valley Bank,” said Haseeb Qureshi, a crypto investor at the venture capital firm Dragonfly. “So our exposure is a lot less than we anticipated.”

There was at least one notable exception. Circle, a company that issues stablecoins, a linchpin in crypto trading, keeps a portion of its cash reserves at Silicon Valley Bank, according to its financial statements.

After a day of frantic speculation about the extent of Circle’s exposure, the company revealed late Friday that $3.3 billion of its $40 billion reserves remained at Silicon Valley Bank. “Wires initiated on Thursday to remove balances were not yet processed,” Circle said in a statement on Twitter.

Unlike other volatile cryptocurrencies, stablecoins are supposed to stay pegged at a price of $1. The uncertainty around Circle caused the price of its popular stablecoin, USDC, to plummet below $1 during trading on Friday and Saturday, raising fears of another crypto industry meltdown. On Friday evening, the giant crypto exchange Coinbase halted conversions between USDC and U.S. dollars, citing the volatility in the market.

As the crisis brewed, though, crypto advocates treated the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank as a chance to press arguments they have been making since the 2008 banking crisis. That upheaval showed financial systems were too centralized, they said, which helped inspire the creation of Bitcoin.

“Centralized entities are more opaque,” said Brad Nickel, who hosts the crypto podcast “Mission:biggrin:eFi.” “If cryptocurrency were powering the financial rails of our world, then a lot of things might not happen or would be a lot less severe.”

But the run on Silicon Valley also followed a playbook that was reminiscent of crises that erupted last year in the crypto industry, culminating in the implosion of FTX.

Critics of the crypto industry argued that a crypto-centric version of Silicon Valley Bank’s failure would have ended worse for everyone.

“If this was an unregulated crypto bank, then the money could just disappear,” Mr. Marchese said. The fact that the F.D.I.C. stepped in to handle the situation in an orderly fashion showed “the system is working,” he said.

In the coming days, the F.D.I.C. will refund the bank’s depositors up to $250,000 while overseeing a process to recover the lost funds. “There’s no crypto regulator insuring accounts for $250,000,” said Danny Moses, an investor at Moses Ventures who is known for his role in predicting the 2008 crisis in “The Big Short.”

Other analysts argued that Silicon Valley Bank had worsened the crisis by announcing its financial losses shortly after Silvergate Capital, a bank with close ties to the crypto industry, started winding down its operations this past week. They pointed out that the manner of Silicon Valley Bank’s communication helped cause the panic that fueled the run.

“SVB’s rollout, for whatever reason, was poorly timed,” said Adam Sterling, assistant dean at Berkeley Law. “Everyone was already fidgety after Silvergate’s collapse.”

As you can see in the above article, they blamed unregulated Crypto for something that was the Federal Reserve's fault.

Eventually, the powers that be will start pitching that regional banks are too insecure and plebs should just do business with international or central banks directly. Since the FDIC took control of SVB and secured deposits themselves, SVB's customers are essentially already doing business with the Federal Reserve anyway.

So the stage is being set economically for CBDCs to become "necessary" for financial security. Now they're moving into the legislative phase of installing CBDCs as the replacement for the electronic funds transfer system and to get ahead of FedNow from rendering CBDCs irrelevant.

Thankfully, the Freedom Caucus of South Dakota has already brought the tyrannical power grab CBDCs pose to the representatives of their state.

Pierre, S.D. (Feb. 16, 2023) – The South Dakota Freedom Caucus launched an online petition today to stop House Bill 1193, which they are claiming helps create a Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC), in hopes to draw awareness to an issue they say could be fatal to our economy.

CBDC has been a highly debated topic over the last year, since the U.S. Federal Reserve released its discussions on the matter. The main concern from opponents to the currency comes from a government’s ability to control people’s purchasing, as described by International Monetary Fund (IMF) Managing Director Bo Li this last September, when he stated, “programming CBDC, that money can be precisely targeted for what kind of people can own [CBDC] and for what kind of use this money can be utilized, for example for food.”

“The ability of a free people to determine the means of exchange and which transactions they engage in is what makes them free,” said Vice Chair Representative Tony Randolph, “and without it, you don’t have a free people.”

The issue over the creation of CBDC in HB 1193 was first raised by District 31 Representative Scott Odenbach during debate over the bill in House Judiciary last Wednesday. Rep. Odenbach pointed to an area in the bill where it establishes“an electronic record that is a medium of exchange recorded and transferable in a system … authorized or adopted by the government.” Even with Rep. Odenbach’s opposition, and three other committee members, HB 1193 passed committee by a vote of 7 to 4 and that following Monday, passed the House by a vote of 49-17.

“We just can’t afford to let something of this magnitude pass unchecked,” said Freedom Caucus Treasurer Representative Tina Mulally, explaining why the Freedom Caucus’s sudden push against the legislation.

The bill is now set to appear before the nine-member Senate Commerce and Energy Committee, chaired by Sen. David Wheeler. With growing opposition, groups like the Freedom Caucus are hoping to round up five votes in that committee to kill the legislation. No date has been set for the hearing of this legislation in the committee.

Thankfully, the Governor of South Dakota has already vetoed the bill.

Also, look at how the language of HB1193 precludes Crypto as a currency in its prose.

(24) "Money" means a medium of exchange that is currently authorized or adopted by a domestic or foreign government. The term includes a monetary unit of account established by an intergovernmental organization or by agreement between two or more countries. The term does not include an electronic record that is a medium of exchange recorded and transferable in a system that existed and operated for the medium of exchange before the medium of exchange was authorized or adopted by the government.

So who's responsible for all this? George Soros? The World Economic Forum?

Introducing the Uniform Law Commission, the self-appointed harbingers of our doom.

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The Uniform Law Commission is a non-profit organization that exists to create law to be applied across multiple states. They do this by drafting a single bill, then send their lobbyists to other states to advocate for and submit their non-Federal laws across the United States. Basically, they seek to take the decentralized nature of the States and uniform them as much as possible. They receive their funding from a variety of sources, including the Federal Government. It wouldn't surprise me if the Federal Reserve weren't their puppet masters in this.

So what can you do to fight this? Call your state representatives in Texas, Oklahoma, Tennessee and Missouri. Tell them what these bills mean, and tell them it means the subversion of State sovereignty wherever the ULC brings this law, tell them it puts them under the boot of Central Bank tyranny.

Pay attention to how these bills proceed, if they make it to the next step, call or write whoever it goes to next to have them kill these bills. Do not relent nor stop.

And if any more of these bills show up in another state, post about it here so everyone can see it and everyone can put a stop to CBDCs in the United States before they get the chance to take root.

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Is thread only for the US? There are many other countries bullying to be the first. Russia's stepping to the front recently:

Russian Parliament poised to approve digital ruble as legal tender​

Story by Jai Hamid • Saturday

The lower house of the Russian Parliament, the State Duma, has approved a draft law that paves the way for the introduction of the digital ruble as a legal tender.

Russian Parliament poised to approve digital ruble as legal tender
Russian Parliament poised to approve digital ruble as legal tender© Provided by Cryptopolitan

The legislation amends various other acts to introduce definitions and establish procedures related to the launch of the central bank digital currency.

Amendments to the National Payment System law​

The draft law, which was submitted to the State Duma by a group of deputies and senators led by the chair of the Financial Market Committee, Anatoly Aksakov, proposes amendments to the National Payment System law.
The amendments will include legal definitions related to the digital ruble, such as “participant of the digital ruble platform” and “user of the digital ruble platform.”
It also assigns the role of the sole operator to the Central Bank of Russia (CBR), which will guarantee its safe functioning.

Securing the status of the digital ruble​

The bill also amends the law on Currency Regulation and Currency Control to secure the status of the digital ruble as a currency of the Russian Federation and defines the digital currencies of other central banks as foreign currencies.

The proposed legislation grants the CBR powers to process personal data without obtaining user consent and without notifying the body responsible for the protection of such information. This will be done through changes to the federal law “On Personal Data.”

Consumer pilot for the digital ruble​

The Bank of Russia plans to start testing the digital ruble with real users and transactions on April 1, 2023, and aims for a full launch in 2024.
The first consumer pilot for the nation’s central bank digital currency (CBDC) will be rolled out by the Bank of Russia on April 1, 2023, as part of preparations for this day.
According to the first deputy governor of the Russian Central Bank, Olga Skorobogatova, the Bank of Russia is getting ready to launch the first real-world digital ruble transactions very soon.
These transactions will include 13 local banks and many retailers. The future CBDC pilot will include genuine activities and real consumers in Russia, but it will be restricted to a set amount of transactions and clients.

Evaluation of the pilot program​

Regular consumers will not be allowed to participate in the pilot in the first stage, as banks will begin the pilot with clients who have been picked in advance.
After the first stage of the pilot program is completed, the Bank of Russia intends to evaluate how to further grow the digital ruble.
The most recent declaration made by Skorobogatova is in line with the implementation strategy for the digital ruble that was publicly presented by the central bank in June 2022.
Due to Western economic sanctions against Russia, the consumer CBDC pilot was pushed up to a date that was originally planned for 2024 but was brought up to an earlier date because the Russian central bank was seeking an alternative to the SWIFT payments system.
 

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Oooh, I learned about this place recently:
Bank for International Settlements
It's the Central Banks Central Bank.
"The Bank for International Settlements (BIS) is an international financial institution[2] owned by central banks that "fosters international monetary and financial cooperation and serves as a bank for central banks".[3] The BIS carries out its work through its meetings, programmes and through the Basel Process – hosting international groups pursuing global financial stability and facilitating their interaction. It also provides banking services, but only to central banks and other international organizations. It is based in Basel, Switzerland, with representative offices in Hong Kong and Mexico City."

It's run by this guy:
Agustin Carstens
"Agustín Guillermo Carstens Carstens (born 9 June 1958 in Mexico City)[1] is a Mexican economist who has served as the general manager of the Bank for International Settlements since 1 December 2017. He served as governor of the Bank of Mexico from 1 January 2010 to 30 November 2017.[2] In 2011, Carstens, along with Christine Lagarde, was one of the two final candidates to become the managing director of the International Monetary Fund."

And he's a big piggy:
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Whose apparently obsessed with CBDC's and is leading a big push for all central banks to adopt them.
This is a shit, hastily grabbed source, but it quotes Carstens own words.
https://bitcoinist.com/the-bis-want...ur-money-via-central-bank-digital-currencies/
And the YouTube video it links to
 
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Is thread only for the US? There are many other countries bullying to be the first. Russia's stepping to the front recently:
Nope, if you're from another country then you're free to post news in this thread.

Does Russia even have representatives that could be influenced by a constituency to put an end to CBDCs though? I'm not familiar with how Russian civics works, but as I recall Putin is essentially dictator for life and everything starts and stops with him.

By the way, I made an update to the OP, I neglected to include links and status for Tennessee HB 640. They've been added.
 
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Oooh, I learned about this place recently:
Bank for International Settlements
It's the Central Banks Central Bank.
Wikispooks is a good gateway into the obscure relationships global bigwigs have. They have a good write up on the BIS: https://wikispooks.com/wiki/BIS
Nope, if you're from another country then you're free to post news in this thread.

Does Russia even have representatives that could be influenced by a constituency to put an end to CBDCs though? I'm not familiar with how Russian civics works, but as I recall Putin is essentially dictator for life and everything starts and stops with him.
I'm not from Russia (unless I'm RP'ing my username). The CBDC[Ruble] seems to be a prerequisite for building their own SWIFT-like system. Their current one doesn't seem to be well adopted outside the countries that solely rely on them for energy.

Putin isn't DFL, he's more of a diplomat that has been able to keep the various Russian fueding political and economic groups in balance, usually through fear. The minute he can't maintain that balance, he's out/dead.
 
OH GOOD.
We have one of these now. Well ain't that just swell. Good thing we've reached the point where this is necessary.
Fun fun fun.

Guess I'll at least try to start us off on a light note:
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A map while we're here:
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Okay, real talk. I don't see how this is any worse than the situation we already have.

There are no TECHNICAL barriers to doing any of this stuff already. Money is just numbers on a computer screen. There's nothing stopping the government from assraping your bank account, banning your credit cards, or whatever else. Except, in theory, rule of law.

How does CBDC change any of that?
 
Okay, real talk. I don't see how this is any worse than the situation we already have.

There are no TECHNICAL barriers to doing any of this stuff already. Money is just numbers on a computer screen. There's nothing stopping the government from assraping your bank account, banning your credit cards, or whatever else. Except, in theory, rule of law.

How does CBDC change any of that?
You're right that money is represented by a computer screen, but wrong in that it's the only representation. We can empty our bank accounts out before they can be assraped and use cash instead. Cash is extremely difficult to trace, meaning Trumpsuckers can use cash to evade government crackdowns. Yeah, you're cut off from Amazon, but you can still use it to buy things. It'd be a real weirdo who wouldn't accept cash.

Mandating the use of CBDCs will get around that. If you can't use or accept cash, it's basically toilet paper- worthless.
 
Okay, real talk. I don't see how this is any worse than the situation we already have.

There are no TECHNICAL barriers to doing any of this stuff already. Money is just numbers on a computer screen. There's nothing stopping the government from assraping your bank account, banning your credit cards, or whatever else. Except, in theory, rule of law.

How does CBDC change any of that?
Technically the government has a large array of means to track you 24/7 already, there's no disputing that and you certainly won't hear me claim we don't already live in a very, very thinly veiled slave system but CBDC's remove even that very thin veil that keeps most of the niggercattle from noticing their chains. Accepting CBDC is the financial equivalent of accepting NEURALINK2030 implant mandates that record your every sensory input and sends them off for ANALysis by the government to monitor for naughtythink just because they technically already can follow you around for the most part. It makes something they can do under the current system into the default position.

Currently you can turn those numbers on a computer screen into cash which you can then use to essentially buy what you want, when you want, from who you want and in whatever quantity you want. You can turn it into something that holds value to protect against (((monetary policy))), you can turn it into things to consume at some point in the future, you can turn it into currency that your bank or government do not control, you can give it to someone else, you can turn it into something the government doesn't approve of. And for the most part you cannot be ( easily ) tracked in doing so. CBDC removes all of that. Enjoy only being able to spend your FEDCOIN at black-trans owned polycules during nigger worship month. Enjoy being told that US-government Experts have determined that 8.75 BUGSNAX Premium BugNuggies is the appropriate evening nutrition for someone of your biological status. Want to stock up on BUGSNAX Premium BugNuggies because you fear having your balance zero'd for attending a naughty honk-related protest? Get fucked, according to government records you have no dependents so you only get one government sanctioned portion per 24 hour period - stockpiling is for terrorists, pedophiles and Russians. You want to travel somewhere for leisure? Too bad nigger, your FEDCOIN allowance only allows for 240 miles of leisure travel per annum. You don't want to share a pod with Miguel and Dikembe? Too bad son, I've got 99 problems but uppity slaves ain't one.
 
Unfortunately this was voted "do pass" smdh. I never heard back from the first person I called. I decided to email the committee members. This is a big deal but it hardly seems to be getting any coverage anywhere.
I looked into that state and the "do pass" was a pre-house committee stating that they're passing the bill off to the state's House of Representatives with the recommendation that the House pass it, it hasn't been reviewed by the House of Representatives yet, and after that it still has to pass through the Senate and get rubber stamped by the Governor. Here's how their state legislature works:

Missouri House of Representatives
THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS IN MISSOURI

The General Assembly

Legislative power is vested by Section 1, Article III of the Missouri Constitution in the General Assembly, more commonly known as the Legislature, composed of the Senate and the House of Representatives.

The Senate consists of thirty-four members, who are elected for four-year terms. Senators from odd-numbered districts are elected in presidential election years. Senators from even-numbered districts are chosen in the "off year" elections. Each senator must be at least 30 years of age; a qualified voter of the state for three years; and of the district he represents for one year. The Lieutenant Governor is president and presiding officer of the Senate. In his absence, the President Pro Tem, who is elected by the Senate members, presides.

The House of Representatives consists of 163 members, elected at each general election for two-year terms. A representative must be at least 24 years of age; a qualified voter of the state for two years; and of the district he represents for one year. The House of Representatives is presided over by the Speaker, who is chosen by the members, and in his absence by the Speaker Pro Tem.

The Missouri Constitution provides that new senatorial and representative districts be established after each federal decennial census. The last redistricting was in 2001. There will be a new redistricting in 2011 to determine the districts for the 2012 and subsequent elections.

Time of Meeting

The General Assembly convenes at the State Capitol in Jefferson City annually on the first Wednesday after the first Monday of January. It adjourns on May 30, with no consideration of bills after 6:00 p.m. on the first Friday following the second Monday in May. No appropriation bill may be considered after 6:00 p.m. on the first Friday after the first Monday in May. If the Governor returns a bill with his objections after adjournment sine die, the General Assembly is automatically reconvened on the first Wednesday following the second Monday in September for a period not to exceed ten days to consider vetoed bills.

The Governor may convene the General Assembly in special session for a maximum of 60 calendar days at any time. Only subjects recommended by the Governor in his call or a special message may be considered. The President Pro Tem and the Speaker may convene a 30 day special session upon petition of three-fourths of the members of each chamber.

Organization of the General Assembly

Following the general election in November of even-numbered years, the majority and minority members of each house caucus separately to nominate candidates for the offices to be elected by each body and to organize their parties for the coming session. Each party names its floor leader, assistant floor leader, whip, caucus chairman and caucus secretary.

Both houses of the General Assembly convene in their respective chambers at noon on the opening day of the session. The Senate is called to order by the Lieutenant Governor. Temporary officers are named and the roll of new and carryover senators is read. Newly-elected senators are then sworn in, usually by a judge of the Supreme Court. The President Pro Tem and other permanent officers are then elected and take an oath of office administered by the President of the Senate.

The House of Representatives is called to order by the Secretary of State and the oath is administered to all members, usually by a Judge of the Supreme Court. After the swearing-in ceremony a Temporary Speaker is elected. The Temporary Speaker presides for nomination and election of the Speaker, Speaker Pro Tem and other permanent officers. Temporary rules, usually the rules in force for the preceding session, are adopted.

After each house notifies the other that it is duly organized, a House Resolution is adopted inviting the Senate to a joint meeting to receive the Governor's message. The joint session is usually held in the second week of the session. Under the Constitution, the Governor, at the beginning of each session, delivers a message concerning state government with recommendations for the enactment of legislation.

Each house determines its own rules and procedures and rules may not be dispensed with except by unanimous consent or concurrence by a constitutional majority in the House (82) or by a vote of at least a majority of the Senate following at least one day's notice. Both the Senate and House of Representatives are required to keep a daily journal of their proceedings. The journals record motions and votes. No record is made of debate. At the end of the session the journals are published by the House and Senate.

How Bills Become Laws

No law is passed except by bill. Bills may be introduced in the House or Senate, except appropriations bills, which by tradition originate in the House. No bill (except general appropriations bills) may contain more than one subject, which is to be expressed clearly in its title. No bill can be amended in its passage through either house so as to change its original purpose. No bill other than an appropriation bill can be introduced in either house after the 60th legislative day of a session, unless consented to by a majority of the elected members of each house or requested by the Governor in a special message.

The legislative procedure is virtually the same in both houses. The following is the path a bill follows when introduced in the House.

I. INTRODUCTION OF A BILL

Members may prefile bills beginning December 1 preceding the opening of the General Assembly session. Bills prefiled are actually introduced on the first day of the session. Members may introduce bills through the 60th legislative day of the session.

II. FIRST AND SECOND READINGS

When introduced a bill is assigned a number and read the first time by its number and title only by the House reading clerk. It then goes on the calendar for second reading; following second reading it is assigned to committee by the Speaker of the House.

III. PUBLIC HEARING

A public hearing before the committee to which a bill is assigned is the next step in the legislative process. The bill is presented to the committee by its sponsor, and both proponents and opponents are generally heard in a single hearing. In the case of unusually controversial, complex or lengthy bills, several hearings may be held.

IV. COMMITTEE EXECUTIVE SESSION

After a hearing is held, a committee may meet to vote and make its recommendations. These executive sessions are also open to the public, but no testimony is taken. The committee may vote to:

1. Report the bill to the House with the recommendation that it "do pass."

2. Report the bill to the House with the recommendation that it "do pass" with committee amendments.

3. Report the bill to the House with the recommendation that a committee substitute for the bill "do pass."

4. Report the bill with the recommendation that it "do not pass." (Such a bill will not be taken up by the House unless 82 members vote to take it up.)

5. Report the bill to the House without recommendation.

The state constitution allows a bill to be taken from committee by one-third of the members of the House. Such a bill is placed on the calendar for consideration by the House.

V. PERFECTION OF A BILL

If a bill is reported favorably out of committee or a committee substitute is recommended, the bill or committee substitute is placed on the "perfection calendar." When its turn comes up for consideration it is debated on the floor of the House. If committee amendments are recommended, they are first presented, debated, and voted on. Further amendments can then be proposed by any House member. When all amendments have been debated and voted on, a vote is taken on whether to have the bill "perfected and printed," with any amendments incorporated into the bill. If a committee substitute is recommended, the House, after considering any amendments to the committee substitute, will vote on whether to adopt the committee substitute, before taking the vote to have the bill perfected and printed. The affirmative vote of a majority of the members present is sufficient to order a bill perfected and printed. The vote is usually a voice vote but may be by roll call and must, like any other motion, be by roll call if at least five members request it. The newly printed bill carries the word "Perfected" above the bill number.

VI. THIRD READING AND FINAL PASSAGE

After perfection and re-printing, a bill goes on the calendar for Third Reading. Only technical corrective amendments may be introduced at this stage, but members may debate the bill. At the conclusion of debate, a recorded vote is taken. Approval by a constitutional majority of the elected members (82 in the House) is required for final passage. If the bill receives the required minimum of 82 votes, it is sent to the Senate, where it is again read a first and second time; referred to a committee for a public hearing; reported by committee; amended on the floor and offered for final approval. If the Senate changes the bill in any way, it is sent back to the House with the request that the changes be approved. If they are, the bill is Truly Agreed to and Finally Passed and sent to the Governor for his consideration. If one or more Senate changes are rejected, a conference may be requested and five members from each house are designated as a conference committee. Upon agreement by the conference committee (usually a compromise of differences), each reports to its own house on the committee's recommendation. If both houses approve the conference committee report, the bill is declared Truly Agreed To and Finally Passed. The bill is reprinted and the words "Truly Agreed To and Finally Passed" are printed above the bill number. If either house rejects the conference committee report, it may be returned to the same or a newly-appointed conference committee for further conferences.

Consent Bills: There is a procedure in both the House and the Senate for expedited treatment of bills of a non-controversial nature. In the House the procedure is this: By unanimous vote any House committee may report a bill which neither increases state costs nor reduces state revenues to the consent calendar. The bill remains on the Consent Bills for Perfection Calendar for five days. At the end of that time, as long as at least five members have not objected to it being on the Consent Calendar, it is considered perfected and is placed on the Consent Bills for Third Reading Calendar. On Third Reading such bills may not be amended. They may, however, be amended in the Senate.

VII. SIGNING BY THE GOVERNOR

Bills Truly Agreed To and Finally Passed are signed in open session by the Speaker of the House and the President Pro Tem of the Senate. At the time of signing, any members may file written objections which are sent with the bill to the Governor. The Governor has fifteen days to act on a bill if it is sent to him during the legislative session; and forty-five days if the legislature has adjourned or has recessed for a thirty day period. The Governor has four options:

1. Sign the bill, making it become part of Missouri law.

2. Veto the bill. In this case, the bill is returned to the General Assembly where a two-thirds vote of both houses is required to override the veto.

3. Not sign the bill. Should the Governor take no action within the prescribed time, the bill goes to the Secretary of State, who then enrolls the bill as an authentic act. It then becomes law.

4. Veto line-items in an appropriation bill. On appropriation bills only, the Governor may choose to veto selected items within the bill. The General Assembly may override this veto by a two-thirds majority of both houses.

VIII. EFFECTIVE DATE OF LAWS

No law passed by the General Assembly can take effect until ninety days after the end of the session at which it was enacted (August 28 for regular sessions). However, if a bill was passed with an emergency clause attached, it takes effect immediately upon the Governor's signature. In addition, some bills specify the exact date when they are to take effect, which is usually a period of time longer than ninety days.

IX. PUBLICATION OF LAWS

All bills which become law are reported to the Secretary of State. The Joint Committee on Legislative Research publishes each year's bills in a book entitled Laws of Missouri. In addition, the Revisor of Statutes updates another publication, the Revised Statutes of Missouri, to reflect the changes made in the law each year.

Please continue contacting your state representatives.
 
There are no TECHNICAL barriers to doing any of this stuff already. Money is just numbers on a computer screen. There's nothing stopping the government from assraping your bank account, banning your credit cards, or whatever else. Except, in theory, rule of law.
The Right to Financial Privacy Act of 1978 explicitly makes it so that the government cannot have access to your finances without a subpoena, search warrant, or other court order.

...for all that's worth.
 
Alright, supposing something was introduced in my state at some point and I wanted to complain to my representative. All that stuff is a matter of public record and basically has to be submitted under your real name, right? What are the odds of retaliation in some form?
 
I've updated the OP to reflect the update to Missouri's changed bill status, I've also included links to the bill texts in the OP table.
Alright, supposing something was introduced in my state at some point and I wanted to complain to my representative. All that stuff is a matter of public record and basically has to be submitted under your real name, right? What are the odds of retaliation in some form?
Call a lawyer and ask, I don't think calling your state rep puts you on public record, but that is a good question.

Does your state have a Freedom Caucus that you can contact and have act as a proxy?
 
I've updated the OP to reflect the update to Missouri's changed bill status, I've also included links to the bill texts in the OP table.

Call a lawyer and ask, I don't think calling your state rep puts you on public record, but that is a good question.

Does your state have a Freedom Caucus that you can contact and have act as a proxy?
I'll check on the Freedom Caucus, but just for the heck of it I did check on the government comment submission sites themselves. I don't want to powerlevel too hard for my state but it was basically "dox yourself in order to submit a comment oh and also it's all public record".
 
Okay, real talk. I don't see how this is any worse than the situation we already have.

There are no TECHNICAL barriers to doing any of this stuff already. Money is just numbers on a computer screen. There's nothing stopping the government from assraping your bank account, banning your credit cards, or whatever else. Except, in theory, rule of law.

How does CBDC change any of that?

Others have made some good points, but the real reason it's different is because of the bureaucracy. Right now anyone can shut you down financially, but it's not someone's job to do it (except in extremely rare circumstances, like you're a drug dealer, terror sponsor or a New Zealand fruit agriculturalist). After the CBDC is set up, there will be an army of people who will be employed solely to shut down the finances of wrongthinkers. There will be a whole tier of bureaucrats who will sit in their quad cubicles, get an alert when anyone (you) does something non-kosher (ahem), and will click a name, click a button, and then that person that triggered the alert won't be a problem for the US banking and financial system anymore.
 
I'll check on the Freedom Caucus, but just for the heck of it I did check on the government comment submission sites themselves. I don't want to powerlevel too hard for my state but it was basically "dox yourself in order to submit a comment oh and also it's all public record".
Can you contact via phone call or email rather than submitting a comment through a website?
 
Can you contact via phone call or email rather than submitting a comment through a website?
I assume those records would be public as well, but I'll see if there would be a way to submit something semi-anonymously and still have it read.

I mean, I'm not even in one of the affected states, currently. But I would guess it won't be long.
 
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