Wuhan Coronavirus / COVID-19 Thread 2: Booster Shot - Resume all Corona sperging here.

@thinking man
"it has been sequenced"
the manner in wihich it was sequenced involved highly error prone fradulent methods.
it involved both consensus sequencing and conservative sequencing, those methods were originally created as purely learning tools and there are text books that say to not use them to actually genome sequence as you won't get something accurate.
Show me the textbooks then, and then show me where in the papers discussing the sequencing of the virus that it was somehow sequenced in error instead of using cutting edge technology. Even if you're totally right, you still have to explain why the virus proceeded to act like every other virus that gets sequenced using this technology does. Or for that matter why the Chinese government bothered to delete the sequences, or why the sequence resembles nothing in nature.
"we've seen it under a microscope"
no, we have seen pictures of cellular debris under a microscope, with black arrows pointing pictures at vesicles, and the declaration that this is sars cov 2. that doesn't count as "Seeing it under a microscope."
Or you could just do a 5 minute search and find plenty of pictures of the virus isolated from patients all around the world.
the reaction to the supposed pandemic it self explains the increase in mortality.
also, there were countries that didn't have severe reactions to the pandemic and they faired better off then countries that reacted strongly.
Nope, happened globally in third world countries. Also happened in countries which adhered to freedom-based policies like Belarus. Countries with more lockdown policies had higher deaths from mistreatment, but there is a clear baseline rise in mortality.
then, according to the thomas rivers postulates, you take the isolate, and you inject it into a host, and you observe that it becomes sick, and then you take another sample from that new host and you once again isolate the same pathogen.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2324-7 - Oh look, the virus can be isolated and spread to other primates. Note a reference to a certain "R. Baric", one of the creators of the virus.
you projecting on to me your own method of believing in stuff which i already prefaced in my post about what makes someone believe something, you get your information from people whom you decide to trust or not based on pavliovian association and your fear of being ostracized. i get my information from trying my best to actually evaluate the information. i've read alot of literal text books regarding the subject.

i could go into detail as to why conservative and consensus sequencing is retarded. or why the method that they proved "Cytopathic effects" is retarded, but that would be such a high level of effort posting, and might fly over peoples heads, and i've done all this before, and people still don't believe because of stupid shit like associating the source of information with "hippy wackjobs". the quality of the evidence literally doesn't matter because you have already started at a conclusion "the virus was a lab leak, people who think other wise are shills" and are working backwords to find evidence to support that conclusion.
Name it then. You're literally trusting a hippie loon who can be proven wrong in a few minutes because you want to have "hidden knowledge" no one else has, ignoring the fact your "hidden knowledge" is bunk and probably disinfo. I highly doubt you've ever actually read a textbook, you probably just hit the bong and watched this government disinfo stoned. Watch flat earth documentaries next time, you'd be funnier that way.
virologists have literally stripped the clinical definition of "isolated" that is used in pathology, when virologists use the word "isolated" it means in the casual sense, as in what ever they want it to mean, like taking a photo of cellular debris. so then people will say "its never been isolated" and then people like you will own a study, hit ctrl + f, find the word "isolated" and be like "see it is isolated your a wack job" and leave it like that.
Because virologists are using the word "isolated" as it applies to what we actually know these past few decades, not using the word "isolated" like it's 100+ years ago and were only working with bacteria. Turns out, this vision of science makes predictions that end up correct. Maybe viruses don't exist, but then what exactly is causing this?

thats it, they don't need to be malevolent and have malicious intent, they often don't even have to conciously engage in science fraud most of the time because their research is so cellularized, they just have to be a bit more suggestable from authority, not rock the boat, and if a question makes them feel uncomfortable, just respond with "thats out side the area of my expertise."
Science fraud exists =/= this science is fraudulent.
not really, why is "there is no actual covid 19" seem like government disinformation, but "covid 19 was a bioleak" can't be exactly that? if there is no covid 19, then a bunch of shit that is beneficial to WEF and different governments who want to enact medical tyranny is in jepordy, if "covid 19 was a bioleak" then a few people can be blamed but still all the economic depression, medical tyranny stuff can still happen.
Because if you're right, then Peter Daszak, Ralph Baric, and the Wuhan Institute of Virology are only incidentally involved and all we can do is blame DA MAN. Go check the Twitter Files and see this is exactly how they operate--they WANT you to blame the institution as a whole instead of pointing out the bad actors. They fear nothing more than being called out on an individual basis, by name. Especially consider that these people fear financial and criminal sanctions for being behind millions of counts of manslaughter and untold trillions in financial damage. If you don't think they'd want this to go away by saying "it was the government's fault", you're absolutely retarded. This is textbook Operation Mockingbird-style disinfo on the level of the FBI trying to insert anti-Russian conspiracies into every conversation on 8chan. You're either a shill yourself, or you're repeating shills.
"Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV were available for CDC use at the time the test was developed and this study conducted..."

That's a real dishonest reading of what this paper actually says. They're saying there wasn't WHEN THE TEST WAS DEVELOPED AND THIS STUDY CONDUCTED. But hey, some guy on the internet pointing it out to always fools the rubes like you.
Heres the bradford hill criteria, and how on every part of the bradford hill criteria, covid 19 doesn't satisfy it and appears to there for not be a legitimate disease.
We all know that the testing for the virus has very low efficiency, so how can you assert any of this as fact? I sure know I caught the virus by being in a crowd in a city where the virus was going around. You further show your ignorance in knowing how the disease works (hint, it's very good at infecting the bloodstream)
They didn't have to fake the pandemic. It was a real pandemic of an engineered virus. It just had a lethality of less than 1%. Unless you had a compromised immune system or had other comorbidities. Usually present in the over 60's. So the response was overblown.

Now why would they do that? Theorizing.

Firstly. The US Presidential Election. Biden was in no way fit to be campaigning around the country. If he appeared in public, they would have show that his crowds would be tiny compared to Trumps turn out. So due to the lockdowns, he was able to campaign from the Basement. Only appearing a handful of times, late in the campaign.

He then took questions, in socially distanced, limited capacity, controlled events. A pre-COVID campaign would also expose how mentally impaired he was when he would have to take questions on the fly. So when Biden won the election. The public didn't have an on the ground representation of the support for Biden. who knew how popular he was? However he gained the most votes for a President in World history. More than Obama.
One of the biggest arguments against this being a preplanned event and instead a case of "never letting a crisis go to waste" is the BLM riots. There's evidence things like the funding, the pallets of bricks, etc. were all being arranged in December 2019. I think they planned on having it be THE event of 2020, and we know they were looking for a martyr since they were amping up the racial tension with silly shit like Jussie Smollett, the Bubba Wallace noose, and Jogger Ahmaud Arbery into "their guy." It was so vital to their plan that the pandemic totally vanished from the news cycle as they cheered on the burning of America and paid zero attention to the fact most people in those mobs weren't wearing masks or practicing social distancing. And then they even got DA EXPERTS to say the protests were vital and somehow not spreading the virus.

If the pandemic was planned ahead of time, then why would they go through all the trouble of planning mass rioting, including deleting the pandemic from the news cycle for two weeks? This seems like what they did with January 6, where they let in a bunch of MAGA loons and expected an epic hostage scenario ending in hundreds of MAGAtards dead alongside a few cops and Congressmen (and maybe even Pence), but all they got was a few dead Trump supporters and lulzy footage. However, because the "script" was already written, everyone has to TREAT the event like it went according to their script, just like how the pandemic was never considered as part of the "script" for the Floyd riots.
 
If the pandemic was planned ahead of time, then why would they go through all the trouble of planning mass rioting, including deleting the pandemic from the news cycle for two weeks? This seems like what they did with January 6, where they let in a bunch of MAGA loons and expected an epic hostage scenario ending in hundreds of MAGAtards dead alongside a few cops and Congressmen (and maybe even Pence), but all they got was a few dead Trump supporters and lulzy footage. However, because the "script" was already written, everyone has to TREAT the event like it went according to their script, just like how the pandemic was never considered as part of the "script" for the Floyd riots.

@Save the Loli

My theory is it was a one two, back to back. Trump was doing too well in the opinion polls and on policy, despite being hamstrung. He was getting too close to some of their projects. Ukraine, Syria, talks of leaving NATO, he'd already left the Paris accords, so they knew he'd do it. So they had to rig him out. But you can't just rig someone out. You have to make the public perception that he is becoming unpopular. And that his opponent, has popular support, despite you never seeing any huge crowds of Biden supporters during the campaign. Because everyone was in their house. And Biden was in the basement.

January 2020 COVID Lockdown Start
April 2020 Lockdowns now affect 50% of World Population. Biden announces candidacy for President.
May 2020. George Floyd video is released. Riots begin.
June 2020 Most major celebrities come out on the side of a guy that overdosed on Fentanyl
July 2020. All Major corporations voice support for BLM
November 2020 Biden is now the most voted for President in History.
 
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Again you're contradicting yourself. You're saying that you shouldn't have to take any preventive measures against COVID because it's a nothing burger disease that diddin du nuthin, while simultaneously saying we should hang "scientist" by their ankle for creating such a harmful and evil disease.
Please find and quote my post where I said no preventative measures should be taken, or that nobody was killed by COVID.
The NIH is literally the largest funder of biomedical research in the world. If you need a grant for medical research they're the first place you go. They were funding Ecohealth Alliance which was in turn funding the Wuhan Virology Institute, but the NIH pulled that funding after the ties came out.
Oh, so they DID fund the WIV through EcoHealth Alliance. Glad we got that sorted out. I guess they're blameless since they stopped the money flow after it was too late.

However, I agree with your conclusions about the vaccine being a cash grab. I believe it was also a massive clinical trial for MRNA technology, which has been a shelf-warmer for over twenty years with little to no progress in the way of an actual, marketable product. This is also why reporting on the side-effects of non-MRNA shots was more honest.
 
It's good that the "conspiracy theorists" seem to be increasingly acknowledged to be right all along about the coof in the MSM. But I do not think I'm forgetting the censorship and demonizing and insanity during coronapanic anytime soon. Nor coronapanic itself. I was starting to think it may never end back when it was at peak crazy.

You know what is really nuts? It isn't over. Massive corporations are still requiring masking and vaccination for employees and new hires. I still see people wearing masks walking alone on the street when I travel. While factually, the pandemic is over and has been for some time, the scamdemic isn't over, the fear isn't over.
 

Heart screening was available and conducted using multifunction cardiogram technology, or MCG, provided by HeartCARE Corp of Chattanooga, Tennessee. Approved by the US Food and Drug Administration and in use since 1995, the MCG represents the most advanced non-invasive cardiac diagnostic method available. Eule Glenn, CEO and co-founder of HeartCARE Corp. explained, "we had the opportunity to perform Multifunction Cardiogram™ screens on a variety of participants and patients. I was surprised to find that over half of those tested (16 of 30 people) had positive markers for myocarditis. Two of these were active duty US Military pilots."

Of course significant self selection bias but still, half.

It would be incredibly simple to find out the prevalence of myocarditis. Select a representative sample, run the tests, see if it's an issue or not. In fact given the current pathetic uptake of muh boosters you'd think they'd want to put this issue to bed so that more people would be willing to roll their sleeves up.

Remember if the only response to questions is 'it's safe and effective because we say it's safe and effective' then they're lying. Proper studies into effects of mRNA vaccines on the population are trivially easy to conduct and cost next to nothing, They will absolutely not do them because they already know what they'll find.

Anyway my interest in all this has slid to nothing. If you have even mild heart scarring from the vaccines there's not much you can do about it except avoid strenuous exercise and hope you get a transplant when the time comes. You brought it on yourself for being retarded and believing sociopaths. If you got your kids jabbed I hope you die a slow painful death from arse cancer because you deserve to.

Oh and the 'revelations' this week that Covid was grown in a lab. This was known by every single public health official and politician in the west as soon as the virus was sequenced. Not maybe, potentially or possibly, with 100% certainty.
 
It looks like wearing a "face mask" when not sick may be finally starting to go away over in Japan.

You know what is really nuts? It isn't over.
Out in the more rural place I live, there's not really any signs of "The New Normal" that I can see anymore aside from the rare mask wearer. But it can definitely be a different story in more urban and leftist places.
 
i studied covid for basically like two years during the pandemic, i did so in order to simply find out about it as much as possible because it was le scary and i didn't want my parents to die. i didn't set out to prove that it wasn't real, i found out, much to my horror, that it wasn't real. it was horrifying to find out, because the implications of it are that almost anything that you are certain about as a "scientific fact" could entirely be made up because of the sheer extent of science fraud.

how ever, i realized that no matter how much i learned and talked to others about it, most people wouldn't believe a word of what i said, i kept banging my head against the wall for no reason. it was very demoralizing and i entered a pretty serious depression.
so instead, i devoted all my research into psychology, to understand more about why people wouldn't believe.

people don't believe things based off of the veracity of the evidence, they believe things based off of things like

familiarity, how much they have been exposed to the idea. you can give the strongest argument in the world for covid being fake but if someone watches cnn then they are hearing that covid is real like a hundred times a day compared to your one time every once in a while you say its fake.

trust/respect for the demographic you belong to, how much does the person trust and respect you or the demographic they associate you with? if they think conspiracy theorists are dumb and they see you as a conspiracy theoriest, then they will think you are dumb, if they have way more money then you, then they will see you as a poor loser and will assume that anything you think or do or say is an extension of how you are a poor loser.

fear of ostracization, if believing in something that you say might put them at risk of getting ostracized, then they are very disincentivized to believe you even if the evidence is compelling, women are more susceptible to this because they have much more to lose from being ostracized then men.

sunk cost/laziness. are they used to beliving what they believe? would it take alot of work to figure out and verify what you are trying to change their mind to? did they already invest a bunch of effort into believing what they beleived? did they have a Le Personal Experience? (i got covid!) then they are just not going to bother.

and so i realized that i have to change up my expectations out of other people and i have to change up the way i bother to try and make the case for covid 19 and how much effort i should bother putting in to it.


i'm not sure if that was the trial where the placebo was a vaccine, if it was, it was specifically meningitis vaccine, but it might have literally been a placebo because the nocebo affect is a real thing and people do get psychosomatically sick.
i used to be alot more autistic about all this stuff but i'm pretty burned out on covid since beating my head against a wall for three years and i got a new computer so i've lost access to a ton of data which is really frustrating because i lent my old computer to a friend and when it came back alot of it like book marks were mysteriously gone.
this is the most soy boy attitude i've seen on these forums.


this nigger 'devoted his research' to physiology because he wanted to know why people don't believe him. lmao.

this isnt' reddit faggot. no one takes you seriously.
 
Just gonna drop this here for your perusal and discussion:


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eta: see someone posted the screen before, not sure if the link was included sorry if too late.
 
It's good that the "conspiracy theorists" seem to be increasingly acknowledged to be right all along about the coof in the MSM. But I do not think I'm forgetting the censorship and demonizing and insanity during coronapanic anytime soon. Nor coronapanic itself. I was starting to think it may never end back when it was at peak crazy.


2020 really was when Clown World went Mega Clown World.
The most interesting aspect of the media conceding the conspiracy theorist were right is that they appear to have dropped the tactic of "you were just guessing you could not have known back then". They seem to be fully admitting the science when fully considered even years ago pointed to the conclusions they were saying at that time.
 
If @Save the Loli is the voice of reason and science in a topic, you guys have fucked up badly. Lmao at the sequencing claims and the microscope autism.
Get off the Internet you utter spergs and visit a medical university. Seek the local virology professor (write a civilized email first) and tell them to sacrifice an hour of their life to show you around, tell them your brain has been Internet poisoned and you require help.
 
It looks like wearing a "face mask" when not sick may be finally starting to go away over in Japan.
I dunno know about that. I read an article how some idol seiyuu posted a pamphlet if you wanted to attend her event which in addition to saying "take a bath/shower" (filthy otaku lol), there was also a part about masks being mandatory. Which reminds me of that show I went to a year ago where despite there being no mask mandate, somehow if you wanted to talk to the bands after their set/get them to sign your stuff you had to wear a mask. I think it's some sort of bullshit demanded in contracts, just like whatever vaxx mandates are still around at events (there seem to be very few, so looks like 2022 was the last year anyone bothered).
Just gonna drop this here for your perusal and discussion:


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eta: see someone posted the screen before, not sure if the link was included sorry if too late.
This reads like posts from the last megathread. How can anyone look at this and not think we're ruled by absolutely evil people? It's like Nazis making jokes about ovens and showers, which judging by this behavior, they probably did.
 
This reads like posts from the last megathread. How can anyone look at this and not think we're ruled by absolutely evil people? It's like Nazis making jokes about ovens and showers, which judging by this behavior, they probably did.
The big oops is that the reporter signed an NDA and she went back on her word. According to shitlibs this is the real scandal. Unfucking believable.

Just gonna drop this here for your perusal and discussion:


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eta: see someone posted the screen before, not sure if the link was included sorry if too late.
Muh strains is as much branding as anything real. Covid has evolved into something a bit less virulent and a bit more infectious. For most people the differences between Wuhan Covid and current Omicron Covid are marginal. The vast, vast majority of healthy people suffered mild illness from all strains. Wuhan Covid was more likely to invade deep lung tissue creating problems for those with compromised immune systems, mainly fat diabetics and the very old, otherwise it's the same virus with the same disease profile. The absolute peak mortality rate for Covid was 0.3%, it's now 0.05%. It was a bad flu now it's a cold.

Hancock and his advisors knew/know all of this. The sociopathic cynicism to use fear mongering to hype up what was ALWAYS a relatively mild disease into the black death, all to accrue power and make money, is a crime against humanity. In non clown world these fuckers would be on trial facing a potential firing squad,
 
Just gonna drop this here for your perusal and discussion:


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eta: see someone posted the screen before, not sure if the link was included sorry if too late.

Dec 2020 and they're obv not concerned in the slightest about the totes scary lab-leaked death bioweapon. Almost like it was the flu from the start. Almost. 😉
 
That article might not fit that thread but the guy who was killed was a Russian scientist involved in the development of the Sputnik vaccine.

Top Russian scientist who created Sputnik V Covid vaccine 'is strangled to death with a belt in his Moscow apartment in row with intruder'​

  • Andrey Botikov was a senior researcher involved in making the Sputnik vaccine
  • His killer was found by authorities and has since been arrested and charged
Russia's investigative committee has launched a murder investigation after a top scientist was found dead in his Moscow apartment yesterday.
Andrey Botikov, known as one of the 18 scientists who worked on the Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine in 2020, was identified as the man who had been strangled to death with a belt in northwest Moscow.
It was previously reported he had survived the encounter after an intruder broke into his home and started rowing with him over money.
I think there might be more than meet the eyes.
 
I dunno know about that.
I looked at a live webcam of Shibuya Crossing (just before I posted what you replied to), and noticed less "face masts" than before.

But yeah, it may not entirely go away anytime soon, if ever.

also one of the comments from the article you linked to:

Mr0303 March 3 2023 at 13:46 dijo:
Well, at least a bath will be more effective than the face masks they are still wearing.
 
It looks like wearing a "face mask" when not sick may be finally starting to go away over in Japan.

Eh, idk about that. I feel Japan is way too collectivist to just drop it. Maybe if the summer heat gets too out of hand. Maybe.

Friend just took a recent trip to Japan. Said nearly everyone was masked, but he could tell based on how people wore them that it was more due to social pressure/health theater and less of feeling "safe" regardless of they were sick or not. However, despite all the "mask is required" stuff, most places didn't give a shit. He did the mask-on-chin thing the entire trip and maybe like the airplane ride and 2-3 places total actually asked him to mask up. People on the train and his hotels didn't care. Most restaurants didn't care, some still do temperature checks, some actually required him to use the hand sanitizer station before seating him, which didn't make sense cause they give you alcohol wipes anyways. He didn't remember anybody giving obvious dirty looks or anything like that (he could pass for Japanese but he's also too gaijin to give a shit about peer pressure).
 
been a long time since I read about this so if anyone wants to spoon feed me- what is the least schizo and most specific source of info about booster shot related complications?
 
Eh, idk about that. I feel Japan is way too collectivist to just drop it. Maybe if the summer heat gets too out of hand. Maybe.
wow coronapanic sure did a number to the Japanese people

(and this is despite the pyschological damage wearing a "face mask" all the time can do - especially to kids)
 
wow coronapanic sure did a number to the Japanese people

(and this is despite the pyschological damage wearing a "face mask" all the time can do - especially to kids)

It's always been this way in general even before Corona. That's just how their and most other East Asian cultures are. From the Pikamee thread:

You get bullied or at least "othered" for being anything other than 100% Japanese here. Even if you are Japanese you get bullied for skintone, clothing, tattoos, accent from the countryside, Okinawan, being too tall, having curly hair, being fat, not being smart, being too smart, not reading the room. And worst of all ..... Being too different from the crowd.

We are BRUTAL when it comes to othering people. This shit doesn't happen in America.
 
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