💥 Trainwreck Margaret Palermo / Margit Neuenschwander / Margit Konzcene / Laurel Lee Bay - VenusAngelic's mom, batshit narcissist, homeless stalker, river Kappa

Daww. Game those blues away, V! Maybe she can start a twitch account to occupy her for the time being. And.look at them, being all cute together. Can't stop that love, Margo! I bet it is just eating you alive that you haven't managed to destroy every bit of your child's happiness.
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Further evidence Margo is the absolute worst mother: never bought her kid a fuckin' gameboy. I'm only half-kidding.

Having a 3DS is great for Venus right now, though. Something to keep her busy and relatively happy until this shitstorm blows over. Even with the channel gone, she still has a loving partner and a roof over her head. Which is more than Margo will ever have. But yeah, I hope Venus treats herself to a copy of Pokémon Sun or Moon.
 
Here is PROOF of her stating that "VENUS WAS A MISTAKE:"

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This was clearly a Margo sock account (as is @margaretpalermofan, the second version of this sock account) but because it isn't her "official" account she is adamant she's never called Venus a mistake - only an accident. It's a weird thing she clings to, she thinks it exonerates her.

Edit: here's a shot of the current sock; she hasn't gone batshit on the comments like she did with the previous one - but holy shit, is this how she really sees herself?
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she hasn't gone batshit on the comments like she did with the previous one - but holy shit, is this how she really sees herself?
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I think that's how she wants to see herself, and more importantly, how she wants other people to see herself. It's very clear that Margo lived vicariously through her daughter for years, even before she got Internet famous. It's almost like she hates herself, and desires her daughter's youth to the point of insanity. (literally, this bitch is crazy af)
 
@EverythingIsChemicals Yes..that is how she sees herself. She can do no wrong, don't you see?? *gags*
It's scary how obvious her sock puppet accounts are...I mean..come on..
I still can't believe people are supporting her.
I'm fed up with this world.
 
I think that's how she wants to see herself, and more importantly, how she wants other people to see herself. It's very clear that Margo lived vicariously through her daughter for years, even before she got Internet famous. It's almost like she hates herself, and desires her daughter's youth to the point of insanity. (literally, this bitch is crazy af)
Oh yeah, it's insanely obvious, especially apparent in the "my strange addiction" show she "arranged" for Venus to be on. Venus is the subject and on a photoshoot, and suddenly here's mama, in a dolly dress and makeup. Look how mama is ALSO a doll!! And every interview Venus ever had, margo was right there by her side, soaking up the attention.

Real managers don't do joint interviews with clients, even if they're a kid. They might be on set, but they are never in front of the camera like Margo. Margo isn't smart, but at some point she realized that Venus was her only route to fame - or at least notoriety and attention. She hates Venus for it, but Margo knows she won't get accolades on her own. Venus never caused any of this, but this shit burns Margo up.
 
I just reported every video in this channel as Scam / Fraud for monetizing Venus' content and duping viewers into believing it could be Venus.

Just did the same, hopefully we'll get results. It was so tempting to select the "child abuse" option that was directly above the scam/fraud menu.

Oh yeah, it's insanely obvious, especially apparent in the "my strange addiction" show she "arranged" for Venus to be on. Venus is the subject and on a photoshoot, and suddenly here's mama, in a dolly dress and makeup. Look how mama is ALSO a doll!! And every interview Venus ever had, margo was right there by her side, soaking up the attention.

The video on the first page that shows this event has been taken down btw. Anyone have a re-upload somewhere?
 
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I'd like to raise awareness of this shadow YT channel which is pretending to be Venus and is growing fast. I'm really dubious about it.
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I just reported every video in this channel as Scam / Fraud for monetizing Venus' content and duping viewers into believing it could be Venus.
I reported it yesterday, and also emailed fullscreen to let them know that someone is impersonating a client of theirs on a monetized account. I figured they might take action if their bottom line was being affected.
 
Margo had a tantrum today, after being relatively pleased with herself for moving back to the EU and not bragging about her new hovel yet. Margo tries to justify calling Venus an accident (and shes reaaaaly insistent that there's big difference between calling venus and accident and a mistake). She claims it's a German word and totally common and just a cultural misunderstanding and Venus says she had accidents when she was a child that are clearly part of her evil plan, so how can poor mother be wrong? Do you not understand how hard it is to give and give and give and then have someone not love you back (PRO-JEC-TION)?

Actual Germans tell her that this thing is not a thing, and that her insisting it is firmly lumps her in the shitty parent category. Marglish ensues.

Not an actual German, but close enough.

She isn´t completely wrong, but for me it sounds old-fashioned and off. Depends when Margo learned German ? Some 30 years ago it was probably (more) common, nowadays it seems just wrong.

At most I´d say someone might use it in a sort of ironically tone, but with quote marks as "unfall". If you use/take it at face value as is in context it´s definitely shitty.
 
Ha, margo outed herself as @margaretpalermofan! She forgot to switch accounts and replied to a tagged comment for her sock with her main.
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I'll give her credit for this one, she usually makes the mistake of speaking in first person pretty quickly on her sock accounts. She was pretty careful not to do it with this one for a while, but it was way less comment active than usual, too.
 
Ha, margo outed herself as @margaretpalermofan! She forgot to switch accounts and replied to a tagged comment for her sock with her main.
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I'll give her credit for this one, she usually makes the mistake of speaking in first person pretty quickly on her sock accounts. She was pretty careful not to do it with this one for a while, but it was way less comment active than usual, too.
I would have thought that it was obvious from the start. Who could be a fan of Maggot?
 
I would have thought that it was obvious from the start. Who could be a fan of Maggot?
Oh, it's pretty obvious for a couple of reasons, including the fact that margo already has a sock account (that got banned) that was one letter off from this current one. I just like watching her slip up when the thinks she's super slick.
 
Oh, it's pretty obvious for a couple of reasons, including the fact that margo already has a sock account (that got banned) that was one letter off from this current one. I just like watching her slip up when the thinks she's super slick.
Just goes to show that even people with supposed high IQs can be fucking retards. And yes, I'm looking at you Pedobear.
 
Just goes to show that even people with supposed high IQs can be fucking retards. And yes, I'm looking at you Pedobear.

Someone bragging about their IQ level is a good indicator that they're full of shit to begin with. Not only is Margo (obviously) lying about hers, but IQ levels are no longer considered to be an accurate measure of a person's intelligence. The tests are horribly outdated, and the only thing they really prove is individual test-taking ability. Margo only used her "superior intelligence" to further manipulate her own daughter, and make her feel inferior to foster that codependency dynamic.
 
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Someone bragging about their IQ level is a good indicator that they're full of shit to begin with. Not only is Margo (obviously) lying about hers, but IQ levels are no longer have never been considered to be an accurate measure of a person's intelligence . The tests are horribly outdated, and the only thing they really prove is individual test-taking ability. Margo only used her "superior intelligence" to further manipulate her own daughter, and make her feel inferior to foster that codependency dynamic.
FTFY.

And I'm aware of the whole "IQ is bullshit" bit. I think I mentioned in another thread that I used to be a member of MENSA and while the majority of these people had smoking high IQs they were complete idiots when it came to everything else. When it comes down to it, those tests are a flawed way measure of raw intelligence. I've always said that one of the best ways is to see how well you can use that which you have. Otherwise all you have is a head full of information and what good does that do you except maybe clean up when playing Trivial Pursuit.

Maggot might very well be smart but she's not clever by any stretch of the imagination.
 
Wow, it seems really easy to take down youtube channels by spam reporting videos. Why doesn't that happen to other youtube celebs?
It has happened in the past; usually the celeb just takes down that particular video that was flagged and moves on. You also need to leave your legal name and address on the copyright report, which discourages people who are just there to watch the world burn from making formal copyright reports; most of the persons reporting are only out to get compensation for the fair use of the materials, and / or have that particular video taken down. But generally speaking, there are very few circumstances where people have actual claims, so most of the reports are ineffective.

In Venus's case, Margo is not only happy to leave her legal info, she's mass reporting the videos and escalating the level of response - i.e. Venus made counterclaims, and Margo escalated to combat the counterclaims. If Margo had any definitive proof that the materials were hers, the videos would have been taken down. And both times Venus's channel was restored, all of the videos were still up, so none of Margo's claims were found valid by YouTube. However, when the claims escalate beyond the initial report and the counterclaim, YouTube is obligated to remove the content until the dispute is settled legally.

Anyway, that's a long way of saying it does happen, but rarely is someone on such a vengeance tour and willing to not only escalate a claim with zero proof, but do it purposefully to drag out the channel downtime. Mostly people just either want their content taken down, or to be paid to use the content (provided they have proof of ownership, which Margo does not.)

Huh. Weird update: one of my instagram accounts just got a message from margo's "fan" sock account! I don't think she's behind the fake channel, because she wants the link to it. It must be nicejewishmamma, aka Cara Cohen, a convicted stalker and former madam at the Mustang ranch brothel. She's got all kinds of weird SEO scams, I guess she was insulted that her "business advice" for Venus wasn't being listened to.
 
Margo has posted a photo of herself in Hamburg, Germany. We suspect she may be couch surfing with one of her particularly committed stans, and one of the few who isn't a preteen (although she's roughly Venus's age).
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