Law Originalism Is Going to Get Women Killed - Due process? Who needs it?

American law has not historically been good to women, and whatever progress there once was is now vulnerable to regression. This return is being midwifed into the world by the theory of constitutional interpretation known as originalism—the idea that a law’s constitutionality today is dependent on the Constitution’s purported “original public meaning” when the relevant constitutional text was enacted. Its adherents market originalism as fair and free from favor or prejudice—but its effects are not and will not be fair at all. By its very nature, originalism threatens women and other minority groups who were disempowered at the time of the Constitution’s adoption. We must instead develop a new constitutional interpretative method that protects all Americans as equal members of our democratic society.

The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals demonstrated as much when it relied on originalism in United States v. Rahimi, a case about a law restricting the gun rights of domestic-violence offenders, last week. The central legal issue in Rahimi was not whether protecting women and children from gun violence is good; the court conceded that it is. Rather, the question before the court was whether protecting women and children from gun violence is constitutional. And the court concluded that it is not.

A three-judge panel unanimously ruled that the Second Amendment was violated by a federal statute that made possessing a gun unlawful for a person who is subject to a restraining order in protection of an intimate partner or child. Its explanation for this dangerous ruling was a straightforward application of originalism. The Founders mentioned a right to keep and bear arms in the Constitution. They did not, however, mention women, who are disproportionately victimized by domestic violence. And although today’s lawmakers may care about women’s rights, they cannot deviate from the Founders’ wishes without a formal constitutional amendment. This will almost assuredly have very real, potentially fatal consequences for women in America: The presence of a gun in a domestic-violence situation increases the risk of femicide by more than 1,000 percent. Originalism is going to get women killed.

United States v. Rahimi is the latest example of the intolerable hazard that originalism poses to women’s lives and our democratic society. Originalist ideology glorifies an era of blatant oppression along racial, gender, and class lines, transforming that era’s lowest shortcomings into our highest standards. The country and the Constitution do not belong to the nation’s white and wealthy forefathers alone. But the consequence of chaining constitutional interpretation to a time when much of the country was much worse off and only a rarefied few held power is as foreseeable as it is deadly: Huge swaths of the population will be worse off once again. Originalism is fundamentally incompatible with a legal system interested in protecting the rights of all of the nation’s people.

The law at issue in Rahimi survived multiple constitutional challenges in the Fifth Circuit prior to originalism’s intervention. The same circuit court most recently reaffirmed its legality in 2020 in United States v. McGinnis, holding that the statute was reasonably adapted to the compelling government interest of reducing domestic gun abuse. This would have directly foreclosed the argument made in Rahimi if not for the Supreme Court’s June 2022 decision in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen. In Bruen, the Court announced a strict new originalist standard for evaluating the constitutionality of laws regulating guns. A gun law is now valid only if it is “consistent with the Nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation.” And even then, Justice Clarence Thomas wrote for the majority, “not all history is created equal.” (This is how the Bruen Court justified striking down a law that had been on the books for more than a century.) The elected branches must prove to the judiciary that a sufficiently analogous regulation existed roughly 230 years ago, when the Second Amendment was adopted, or potentially 155 years ago, when the Fourteenth Amendment was adopted.

There’s a certain level of absurdity to this exercise. The Supreme Court essentially disallowed the country’s lawmakers from developing new solutions to the national gun crisis and instead sent the people’s representatives on archival scavenger hunts. “When a challenged regulation addresses a general societal problem that has persisted since the 18th century,” Thomas wrote in Bruen, “the lack of a distinctly similar historical regulation addressing that problem is relevant evidence that the challenged regulation is inconsistent with the Second Amendment.” Instead of counseling, “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it,” originalism instructs, “If it’s still broken, you still can’t fix it”—a prescription for permanent crises in America, unsolvable in the present because they were not solved in the past.

The government jumped through the required hoops and proffered various historical analogues for the statute at issue in Rahimi. All were rejected. The Fifth Circuit’s rationale for doing so was sometimes disturbing. The government pointed to laws in several colonies and states that disarmed classes of persons considered dangerous—namely, enslaved people and Indigenous people. The Fifth Circuit said that the domestic abusers’ restriction was insufficiently similar, because it disarms people after individualized findings of credible threats to other identified persons, whereas the historical laws disarmed classes of people deemed a threat to the political and social order. Put plainly, the law was held unconstitutional because it disarmed citizens for reasons other than the brazen enforcement of white supremacy.

That it would be challenging to identify colonial laws that took violence against women seriously is not a surprise. Indeed, not until 1920 was wife-beating made unlawful in every state. Finding no historical tradition of disarming people who abuse women, the Fifth Circuit is allowing them to keep their guns. The court concluded that the statute’s ban on domestic-violence offenders possessing guns is an “outlier that our ancestors would have never accepted.” Whose ancestors is unclear. The court does not say whether it includes the ancestors of the 4.5 million women alive today in the United States who have been threatened with a gun by an intimate partner. Or the hundreds of victims of gunmen who first committed acts of violence against the women in their life—a reliable bellwether for mass shootings. Originalism limits who gets to be a part of “our” and who is entitled to the Constitution’s rights and protections.

The country is ill-served by a judiciary that uplifts an alleged original understanding of the Constitution over the public interest and makes false claims of objectivity to obscure oppression. The first drafters of the document articulated important, inclusive democratic ideals but did not yet know how to live up to them. The courts must stop rejecting everything we’ve learned over hundreds of years and calling doing so wisdom. Lives quite literally depend on it.



These weasels absolutely refuse to try to amend the Constitution to match their progressive 'dream' for America because that would require the consent of the governed, which includes those filthy red state plebs.
 
Ah yes, the classic sneeding of "[group] will be hurt by this pwease let us break the rules pwease".

How's about you use the lax gun laws to buy yourself a gun, and become proficient with it, for your own protection? Why is it a requirement that I give up something for you? Especially when you you will complain at easy access to guns. Protect yourself, that's what its for, dipshit.
 
Firstly, this is written by NY hard left negress.

Secondly, the point of "interpretation" of the constitution vs originalism isn't to addendum the constitution, that's literally what the amendments are for, right?

Thirdly, you can both have the constitution intact and protect people from gun related domestic violence, by enforcing harsher punishment for provable domestic violence and making a stronger system for victims to go to.

Taking guns away from law abiding citizens doesn't change anything. I don't get why these supposed "learned" types don't get that....oh wait, I forgot, they want the whole constitution torn up and remade in their image.
 
I’m sure more girls have been aborted than saved by it. Especially once you factor in India and China.
 
I am so sick of this over dramatic "IF THIS HAPPENS GROUP WILL DIE" propaganda approach being used constantly.

This is just a scare tactic used by adult toddlers. This is the same crap as a little kid demanding to get what they want or they will hold their breath.
 
Whenever someone tells me "women will die if we do x," I know x is the right thing to do. Not because I want women to die, and they probably won't. But because if appealing to the basic "PROTECC WOMAN" instinct is the only argument they have, that means there's no rational argument against x at all. Especially when they otherwise claim women are equal or superior to men. I'm not addressing that claim here, just the fact that they expect us to believe both in women's equality and their need for special protection.

Heh. It's like that old Simpson's joke that was memed for a while, "Won't someone please think of the children." Except children really do need special protection, and when we try to protect them from life-altering gender modifications they accuse us of trying to kill them.

Taking guns away from law abiding citizens doesn't change anything. I don't get why these supposed "learned" types don't get that....
Every man's a potential rapist, every man's a potential murderer. They really believe that. They have to believe it, because they can't believe some men are more likely to rape or murder than others. And once 50% of the population are murderous rapists (or rapey murderers), the decision to disarm them seems obvious.
 
Using mistakes of the past that have been corrected as a justification to knowingly make mistakes now and not fix them is NOT a compelling argument.
 
Didn't finish this tripe, but the foundation seems to be that only women are victims of domestic violence which is the stupidest and laziest take possible.
 
If you read the article, they're specifically mad that the Court ruled that having a restraining order on you can't be used as a pretext to abrogate your constitutional rights. The reason for this is having a restraining order on you doesn't involve a jury trial or facing your accusers, and therefore isn't a conviction of a crime, and therefore does not rise to the standard of the "due process" required to be able to take away your constitutional rights.

There is no fundamental difference between taking away someone's right to a firearm without trial and his right to vote, his right to freedom, etc. In other words, if it's constitutional to take away someone's gun rights without a trial, it's constitutional to put him in prison as well.

That your rights cannot be taken away without a trial in which you face your accuser, know the charges against you, and have a chance to defend yourself is fundamental to a free society. The left has been attacking this ground condition of liberty in the name of "muh women's safety" for decades. And sure, they're right. Women absolutely would be safer if all they had to do is give their word to a judge, and any man they happen to be a bit nervous about is clapped in irons and hauled away. But the reason we have the rights we do is our forefathers judged that the dangers of an all-powerful state that can strip anyone of rights on nothing more than a word far, far outweigh the dangers of liberty. Don't like it? Go back to England.
 
I am so sick of this over dramatic "IF THIS HAPPENS GROUP WILL DIE" propaganda approach being used constantly.

This is just a scare tactic used by adult toddlers. This is the same crap as a little kid demanding to get what they want or they will hold their breath.
Its the same level of emotional manipulation that trannies use "NOOOO DO WHAT I SAY OR X KILLS THEMSELVES/DIES"
 
Ah yes, the classic sneeding of "[group] will be hurt by this pwease let us break the rules pwease".

How's about you use the lax gun laws to buy yourself a gun, and become proficient with it, for your own protection? Why is it a requirement that I give up something for you? Especially when you you will complain at easy access to guns. Protect yourself, that's what its for, dipshit.
I have always found it funny that women are some of the biggest proponents of gun control, when they have the most to gain from using a firearm. I chalk it up to women being more emotional than men so the tactic of “here’s a dead kid, now give up your rights” works more effectively on them, I also think some buy too much into the “Girl Power” narrative so they think that learning karate or some shit is going to matter against the 400 pound meth-addicted rapist.
 
If you read the article, they're specifically mad that the Court ruled that having a restraining order on you can't be used as a pretext to abrogate your constitutional rights. The reason for this is having a restraining order on you doesn't involve a jury trial or facing your accusers, and therefore isn't a conviction of a crime, and therefore does not rise to the standard of the "due process" required to be able to take away your constitutional rights.

There is no fundamental difference between taking away someone's right to a firearm without trial and his right to vote, his right to freedom, etc. In other words, if it's constitutional to take away someone's gun rights without a trial, it's constitutional to put him in prison as well.

That your rights cannot be taken away without a trial in which you face your accuser, know the charges against you, and have a chance to defend yourself is fundamental to a free society. The left has been attacking this ground condition of liberty in the name of "muh women's safety" for decades. And sure, they're right. Women absolutely would be safer if all they had to do is give their word to a judge, and any man they happen to be a bit nervous about is clapped in irons and hauled away. But the reason we have the rights we do is our forefathers judged that the dangers of an all-powerful state that can strip anyone of rights on nothing more than a word far, far outweigh the dangers of liberty. Don't like it? Go back to England.
In striking down the ability of New York to take your guns on nothing but a signature you weren't even in the room for - the court specifically noted that you can't even be put in a psychiatric ward in New York without at least a five minute hearing - thus, under this EPO loophole of grabbing your guns? Based on the standards of proof used by the court it was literally a greater threat to own a gun than to be insane.


Which is exactly the standard the left has been pushing for decades - that gun ownership in itself, regardless of what you do or do not do with a gun, or even just concurrently without having one on you, but at home? Even if in a lockbox? Is proof of criminal levels of mental sickness and in and of itself is enough to have you incarcerated or at least sanctioned just to be safe.

They 100% believe in the notion of precrime, observe: -The country is ill-served by a judiciary that uplifts an alleged original understanding of the Constitution over the public interest

Hey, JACKASS - NEWS FLASH - THE APPLICATION OF THE CONSTITUTION UNDER IT'S "ORIGINAL" FORM IS THE VERY MOTHERFUCKING DEFINITION OF PUBLIC INTEREST!

Also, "alleged" - it's not alleged, its what the USSC, the highest court in the land, has ruled, it is not in doubt at all.

Are you too stupid to get this? Or are you so power-hungry you don't care if you leave your muddy bootprints all over the document that tells the government it explicitly CAN'T do something?!
 
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I have always found it funny that women are some of the biggest proponents of gun control, when they have the most to gain from using a firearm. I chalk it up to women being more emotional than men so the tactic of “here’s a dead kid, now give up your rights” works more effectively on them, I also think some buy too much into the “Girl Power” narrative so they think that learning karate or some shit is going to matter against the 400 pound meth-addicted rapist.
Because they are. That's just a fact, and those self-defense classes have been outright said by actual martial arts practitioners as fantastic ways of getting yourself raped.
 
Because they are. That's just a fact, and those self-defense classes have been outright said by actual martial arts practitioners as fantastic ways of getting yourself raped.
As they say, God created man, Sam Cold made em' all equal - anyone who can muster up 6 lbs of pull in a finger now has the right and ability to stop even the biggest human aggressor they can imagine and not just stop them, but KILL them.

No extra skill or athleticism needed.
 
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