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💥 TrainwreckMargaret Palermo / Margit Neuenschwander / Margit Konzcene / Laurel Lee Bay - VenusAngelic's mom, batshit narcissist, homeless stalker, river Kappa
There's something really terrifying about a forty year old trying to do the cutesy anime character thing and not realizing how weird and creepy that looks. This shit only works with really young looking girls.
First thought: If you took a shot every time she said "murder" in this video, you'd be, well, dead -- especially if you add "horror movie." That's a bit disturbing in light of her stalking, but of course to her, the little caps that go over your ears are the disturbing part. (Edited to add: And if someone doesn't want it to look bloody, may I suggest buying a color that isn't on the red end of the spectrum?)
Second thought: No shit, a liquid that you put in a round container and shake isn't going to magically turn into a flower-shaped pudding without being poured into a mold? You don't say!
Third thought: Way to dye hair, Margo. The "finished" look has huge chunks that are still blonde because they weren't touched by ze poodeeng at all, but there's a broad pink stripe on her forehead. Of course the $13 will be a waste if the user is an idiot. Hell, $3 would be a waste if Margo was the user.
So Margo made a video in which she emulates not only a video subject that Venus did on her own once she got to Japan, she attempts- badly - to emulate the character Venus Angelic. And did Margo claim that SHE'S the one who came up with all of Venus's videos? But Margo is re-making a video that Venus did on her own in Japan (the Bubble Foam Hair Dye vid) whilst being decidedly terrifying and not at all cute, young or fun? Margo, I hope you know the creep factor involved in being the screeching, hanger-on mother who corners her kid's friends and demands to be treated as a fun, hip, YOUNG YOUNG YOUNG equal.
And what drove Mags to make this video today? Oh, did she see that Mana dyed his hair yesterday? But I thought she's the creative force, the only one in the family who is capable of having ideas to do things.
Next, Margo makes a snapchat, just like the kids! She also displays her very technical cosmetologist knowledge by not understanding what the green "dye" is for (because she likes Brass with a capital B in her blond, thankyouverymuch.) Thank god she's not melting Venus's hair every 3 weeks anymore, that poor kid.
Finally. Let's look at Margo's "fun" selfie up close. What's that, all strategically lit up in the background, up on a pedestal so it will definitely be in the frame? Is it your "ex"-daughter's childhood plushie, the one you keep using as bait and / or attempting to manipulate her with? Margo, we are the only ones who care about it at this point. And all it does in make you look more psycho.
Lastly, Mags is crunk up in her basement closet at almost 3 am, bitching about her cruel, ungrateful child to strangers on the internets.
edited to add extra salty woe as me comments as they flow
First thought: If you took a shot every time she said "murder" in this video, you'd be, well, dead -- especially if you add "horror movie." That's a bit disturbing in light of her stalking, but of course to her, the little caps that go over your ears are the disturbing part. (Edited to add: And if someone doesn't want it to look bloody, may I suggest buying a color that isn't on the red end of the spectrum?)
Second thought: No shit, a liquid that you put in a round container and shake isn't going to magically turn into a flower-shaped pudding without being poured into a mold? You don't say!
Third thought: Way to dye hair, Margo. The "finished" look has huge chunks that are still blonde because they weren't touched by ze poodeeng at all, but there's a broad pink stripe on her forehead. Of course the $13 will be a waste if the user is an idiot. Hell, $3 would be a waste if Margo was the user.
That video is horrifying, if only for the fact that she's clearly trying to act younger than her age and capture the sort of aesthetic that made Venus so popular.
She is having such a meltdown that she doesn't realize that middle-aged women don't just go out, by themselves, in a foreign country to buy a cutesy pink pudding hair dye and then make "beauty" videos about the experience. People in her demographic don't do that sort of shit, and the demographic she's trying to get (young adults or children) to watch these videos aren't going to watch a grown ass woman act like a child.
It makes me wonder if she was projecting a personality onto Venus or if she's now taking what she thought was winning about Venus' personality. Maybe both?
Slightly off-topic, every picture of her drives me up a wall because she can't even do her own makeup properly. How hard is it to fill your lips in with the lipstick? I can see half a damn lower lip covered in foundation in the video.
Holy shit, what a botch dye job. At the end of the video she complained that it wasn't the right color when she started off with a horrible shade of bronze. I guess she's never heard of toner before. Man, I hope she makes more videos so we can get a front row seat to her midlife crisis. It's going to be fucking wild.
Slightly off-topic, every picture of her drives me up a wall because she can't even do her own makeup properly. How hard is it to fill your lips in with the lipstick? I can see half a damn lower lip covered in foundation in the video.
Shaping your lips with foundation is a staple in the cutesy living doll look (and you're right, it looks terrible.) I think it's meant to make the mouth appear more "pouty" but really, it isn't doing Mags any favors. Because she's not the kawaii teenage girl she thinks she is.
It makes me wonder if she was projecting a personality onto Venus or if she's now taking what she thought was winning about Venus' personality. Maybe both?
You're correct in part about the projection, I think: Margo projected stupidity, asexuality, and being docile onto Venus. As late as last year, Margo was dressing Venus up in over the top gothic lolita outfits and parading her around Shibuya holding stuffed animals. Margo wanted Venus to be grown enough to whore out and make mama more money by marrying rich, but she was also insistent on keeping Venus locked in a weird bubble of timelessness where she'd never grow up, have feelings, change or leave.
Venus started making videos before Margo cared anything about her - Mags didn't get involved as "momager" until Margo grasped that Venus might not be useless to her anymore vis a vis getting money and fame for Mama, around when Venus was almost 15 (V started making the videos age 13.) So the "cute" thing is Venus's own personality - Margo just capitalized on it further and tried to turn it into pedo shit.
The deep irony of Margo doing this NOW is that Venus herself has moved on from hyper-cute and doll-like things. Sure, she still likes pink and frilly and has some dolly clothes, but they're much simpler than before, more muter, conservative, and slightly more grown up. As is appropriate, since Venus herself is getting older.
Sorry for the double post: I got around to making some screencaps of Mags' video foolery for posterity and was struck by the difference between a video still and posed photo of Hags' face. Mind you, BOTH are filtered and she's fully made up in each (in her CHANEL powder foundation, peasants.) She can't curate and spot filter every frame in a video, though. Dat nose, eye bag and marionette line shrink:
I found a different listing for rooms in Margo's hostel that give a better idea of how spartan the place is. While the in room show is nice to have, it's a pretty grim place to find yourself when you're broke, jobless, 41 and alone.
That video is horrifying, if only for the fact that she's clearly trying to act younger than her age and capture the sort of aesthetic that made Venus so popular.
She is having such a meltdown that she doesn't realize that middle-aged women don't just go out, by themselves, in a foreign country to buy a cutesy pink pudding hair dye and then make "beauty" videos about the experience. People in her demographic don't do that sort of shit, and the demographic she's trying to get (young adults or children) to watch these videos aren't going to watch a grown ass woman act like a child.
It makes me wonder if she was projecting a personality onto Venus or if she's now taking what she thought was winning about Venus' personality. Maybe both?
Somebody posted a video once of Venus on the show, "My Strange Obsession" and Venus is doing a photoshoot as a living doll. Maggot shows up a few moments later all "dolled" up as well going, "look at me! I am a doll!" and she proceeds to pose with her daughter.
There's always been this undercurrent there where Maggot seems to be trying to live vicariously through her daughter but also is desperate enough to want to be seen as "the cute one". In a sense, she tries to upstage Venus every chance she gets.
Somebody posted a video once of Venus on the show, "My Strange Obsession" and Venus is doing a photoshoot as a living doll. Maggot shows up a few moments later all "dolled" up as well going, "look at me! I am a doll!" and she proceeds to pose with her daughter.
There's always been this undercurrent there where Maggot seems to be trying to live vicariously through her daughter but also is desperate enough to want to be seen as "the cute one". In a sense, she tries to upstage Venus every chance she gets.
Yeah, I saw that clip. She seems to use Venus as an extension of herself, rather than her own person. Unsurprising, considering how insane she is, but disgusting nonetheless.
She thrives off attention, no matter what form it takes, but really seems to preen when she interprets the attention as positive.
She was oblivious to the cameraman's discomfort and didn't realize he was only filming her antics because he was getting paid.
I wonder if the same concept could be projected onto other people?
What I mean is, could she honestly think that pushing Venus and watching her like a hawk was her being a good, attentive mother? I don't think she sees it as lying. She's fucking delusional. I wouldn't be surprised if she has issues determining good and bad attention.
Highly late, but can someone fill me in on what happened between Venus and Margo when they met at the airport? This is such a convoluted drama that I can't find a straight description. Did Margo actually try to kidnap her?
Highly late, but can someone fill me in on what happened between Venus and Margo when they met at the airport? This is such a convoluted drama that I can't find a straight description. Did Margo actually try to kidnap her?
Sure, I can do you one better - I can have Venus tell you, her post on the matter in still up on her instagram, I copy/pasted this:
"My mom came to Japan with the reason that she wants to bring me my things and spend my Birthday with me. I've only met her for a couple of minutes though, and I can't agree with ver request of letting her stay where Manaki and I are after all these things she said about us. At the airport I first I went to the locker area, where my mom said I could pick up a suitcase with the info on a pic she sent me via messenger. So I went there but only opened the suitcase to check the contents. As it was nostly my mom's belongings I returned the suitcase. After that my mom came to the Airport as well, but she said that I stole things from the suitcase, which I didnt do! I then asked her to give me the pin code to my bank account, which she refused to do and in turn asked me to give her my cash card and suggested I live off Manaki (my husband). I thought it's better to leave, but when I did she immediately grabbed my arm and didnt let go despite pulling. Eventually I could make someone call the security so she let my arm and I could go away. She also changed the password to my main e-mail venusangelic@gmail.com, I can't log in there anymore."
Venus moved in with Mana because her mom was ragging on her constantly to divorce him, and she didn't want to (in addition to Margo's regular abuse of V). Once Venus left to live with her husband, Margo lost her shit. She posted photos of what she claimed was Venus cheating on her husband (was actually Mag in the pic, back to camera), and make a BUNCH of posts that Venus was an alcoholic asexual with aspergers who has violent aspie fits wherein she violently abused her mother and killed 2 of her pets (implied later that Venus just likes killing and hurting things - Margo was trying to dance between Venus being mentally ill or just being evil, and she never quite figured out which one was "true" for her.) Margo also fought for control of every account Venus has - Venus was never allowed her own passwords, and Margo kept different passwords on 4-5 different cell phones so Venus couldn't ever find them without Margo figuring it out (Margo's biggest threat was always deleting Venus's accounts.) The only accounts Venus managed to get and change the passwords for before leaving were the YouTube and instagram before Margo scented trouble, but those were the most important.
After all this, Margo convinces Venus to invite her to Japan for Venus's birthday. Margo offers to bring the clothes Venus has to leave behind. The visit is supposed to be only a few days, and Margo isn't invited to stay with them. Venus goes to meet Margo in the airport while Manaki waits outside in the car - essentially with the engine running, so they have a backup plan for venus to cut out if Mags goes crazy - but Venus is giving her one last shot. The above happens, Margo physically retrains Venus and accuses her of stealing her suitcase (the one Margo told Venus was full of her things), and security has to be called before Margo unleashes V. Margo's true colors are revealed to Venus - there is no hope that her mom will get better, or less crazy, or forgive her for getting married.
Margo camped at the airport for 3 days in protest, convinced Venus would break down and come to mama begging her to move into their marital home and ruin their lives, and when that didn't happen the next 87 days consisted of a narcissistic rage that's fueled this thread for 30+ pages and has no end in sight.
That would explain a lot of the oddly manipulating and controlling behavior. I remember one of you guys saying how Margo didn't let Venus have her own bed or something like that? And obviously all of this stuff about Manaki, too.
I sort of feel bad for Margo sometimes, she's so obviously sick (in a mental sense) but refuses to get help for it because she lacks the awareness to realize that she is sick. Even if she is narcissistic and kind of a bad person.
I don't feel bad for her, in some ways she does know what she's doing but refuses to allow her daughter have her own life and picks her up and plays with her like a toy. for Margo Venus was nothing more than a living doll she could dress up and control, not a child she should love, care for and mentor. Margo only wanted the good parts of being a parent and neglected to do any of the really important stuff like letting her have friends. it's a miracle Venus is as well adjusted as she is, no doubt she will need therapy but she still continues to fight to be her own person.
I sort of feel bad for Margo sometimes, she's so obviously sick (in a mental sense) but refuses to get help for it because she lacks the awareness to realize that she is sick. Even if she is narcissistic and kind of a bad person.
I don't think she's mentally ill, but she is a huge cunt. Margo-chan wants to bask in the attention, no matter how negative it is. She has no viable source of income or a support system. She's hanging onto the few asspaters that she has on IG and YouTube and that's it. She's utterly alone and she's probably losing her shit. I don't feel bad for her at all.
Margaret reminds me of those horrid pageant moms. They don't put their daughters in to look pretty or to have fun, they do it for themselves. If it hasn't already, I'd bet her midlife crisis is hitting her pretty damn hard right now. She tried to live through Venus to recapture that lost part of her youth because she's so hardcore thirsty for the attention, just like the pageant moms.
At the end of the video she complained that it wasn't the right color when she started off with a horrible shade of bronze. I guess she's never heard of toner before. Man, I hope she makes more videos so we can get a front row seat to her midlife crisis. It's going to be fucking wild.
