Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

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Minor win today. I have a chronic pain disease that flares up from time to time. I'm at the tail end of a flare, still not feeling great, but I got down on the floor and did some ab/leg exercises. Not many reps yet, because I'm terribly out of shape, but I won't get in shape without actually beginning somewhere.

As for push-ups I can't even do one. Part of that is I'm still overweight by about 50 pounds, but mostly it's just really weak arms. I'm going to do some arm exercises tomorrow and eventually I will get to the point where I can add push-ups. I can plank for a few seconds at least, not long but again I have to start somewhere.

Doing girl push-ups while kneeling is not an option. I can't kneel without a lot of pain in one knee due to a mechanical issue that can't be fixed. I haven't tried doing them while leaning on my counter yet. Maybe tomorrow.

 

[CowPox]

Today,
50lbs curls for six x4 Dumbell
50lbs hammercurls for six x4 Dumbell
1 minute static grip hold at 132 lbs x2

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Minor win today. I have a chronic pain disease that flares up from time to time. I'm at the tail end of a flare, still not feeling great, but I got down on the floor and did some ab/leg exercises. Not many reps yet, because I'm terribly out of shape, but I won't get in shape without actually beginning somewhere.

As for push-ups I can't even do one. Part of that is I'm still overweight by about 50 pounds, but mostly it's just really weak arms. I'm going to do some arm exercises tomorrow and eventually I will get to the point where I can add push-ups. I can plank for a few seconds at least, not long but again I have to start somewhere.

Doing girl push-ups while kneeling is not an option. I can't kneel without a lot of pain in one knee due to a mechanical issue that can't be fixed. I haven't tried doing them while leaning on my counter yet. Maybe tomorrow.

Keep trying. It gets easier, you just have to commit.

 

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Keep trying. It gets easier, you just have to commit.

I want to do this. I want to lose the extra fat. I want to break my junk food addiction. I want to feel healthy and strong. The only way I can accomplish those things is by doing the work. So I'm going to do the work, even when I don't feel like it.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

Minor win today. I have a chronic pain disease that flares up from time to time. I'm at the tail end of a flare, still not feeling great, but I got down on the floor and did some ab/leg exercises. Not many reps yet, because I'm terribly out of shape, but I won't get in shape without actually beginning somewhere.

As for push-ups I can't even do one. Part of that is I'm still overweight by about 50 pounds, but mostly it's just really weak arms. I'm going to do some arm exercises tomorrow and eventually I will get to the point where I can add push-ups. I can plank for a few seconds at least, not long but again I have to start somewhere.

Doing girl push-ups while kneeling is not an option. I can't kneel without a lot of pain in one knee due to a mechanical issue that can't be fixed. I haven't tried doing them while leaning on my counter yet. Maybe tomorrow.

A good way to do easier pushups if you can't get on your knees is just by putting your hands on something.

I personally use the Smith Machine for a similar movement targeted more towards triceps, but my friend couldn't do any pushups and after doing these regularly he got them down no problem. They're also great for mechanical dropsets because you can quickly change how high up the bar is, and that can be nasty.
If you workout at home, a chair, a bed frame, a counter like you said, anything like that works really well.

 

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A good way to do easier pushups if you can't get on your knees is just by putting your hands on something.
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I personally use the Smith Machine for a similar movement targeted more towards triceps, but my friend couldn't do any pushups and after doing these regularly he got them down no problem. They're also great for mechanical dropsets because you can quickly change how high up the bar is, and that can be nasty.
If you workout at home, a chair, a bed frame, a counter like you said, anything like that works really well.

Good to know! I'll do some tomorrow on my counter. Thanks!

 

[CharcoalChkn]

Good to know! I'll do some tomorrow on my counter. Thanks!

You can even do wall push ups and slowly work your way to more advanced movements when your body can tolerate it.

https://youtu.be/0GsVJsS6474

 

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You can even do wall push ups and slowly work your way to more advanced movements when your body can tolerate it.

https://youtu.be/0GsVJsS6474

I've done them on the wall, but I don't think I did them right because it was super easy. I did a few on my counter this evening and I really liked it. It's hard but not impossible. I don't think I can do a full range of motion and get down close to the counter, but I know with practice I'll get there.

Another reason to keep doing this: even a few minutes of exercise does amazing things to my blood sugar. I looked it up and weight training is better than cardio for regulating blood sugar for fatty diabetes. Nice! I hate cardio.

 

[Big Al's Famous Pork]

I want to do this. I want to lose the extra fat. I want to break my junk food addiction. I want to feel healthy and strong. The only way I can accomplish those things is by doing the work. So I'm going to do the work, even when I don't feel like it.

Don't give up. You can do it bud.
Even those of us who are borderline swole don't want to do it sometimes.
You will be swole someday. Never give up.

 

[MS Paint Gigachad]

Another random question for you guys: what music (if any) do you usually listen to when working out?

For me, it's usually either metal, dark synth or sometimes drift phonk. So, recently stuff like Children of Bodom and Dance with the Dead. But then there's also oddball stuff, like I've listened to the mechanicus soundtrack while working out.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

The 35 pound kettlebell is becoming too light, at least for swings. I am seriously considering a 53 pound. I tried one at a sporting goods store and it was actually manageable. Which is terrifying.

Also, is it normal to be way behind on the weight for Turkish get ups compared to swings? Because I'm still trying to get a handle on, uh... considerably less.

 

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Also, is it normal to be way behind on the weight for Turkish get ups compared to swings? Because I'm still trying to get a handle on, uh... considerably less.

I have never done a turkish get up, but the way I see it, YES, because the KB swing is a simple, stable hinge where the weakest link is pretty darn strong, meanwhile the get up seems unstable, and the weakest link is probably gonna be like the delt or something.

Also, I've never seen an adjustable kettlebell, do they even exist?

 

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Another random question for you guys: what music (if any) do you usually listen to when working out?

For me, it's usually either metal, dark synth or sometimes drift phonk. So, recently stuff like Children of Bodom and Dance with the Dead. But then there's also oddball stuff, like I've listened to the mechanicus soundtrack while working out.

When I was struggling through cardio I liked loud shouty high energy stuff. AFI, My Chemical Romance (The Black Parade album mostly), Sonata Arctica, and for a completely different genre the Lord of the Dance soundtrack. I love Nightwish too but it's too melodic for working out in most cases, at least to distract myself during cardio. Once I get to where I can do more than a few minutes of lifting at a time I'll probably listen to the same stuff.

 

[realitysurf]

Another random question for you guys: what music (if any) do you usually listen to when working out?

For me, it's usually either metal, dark synth or sometimes drift phonk. So, recently stuff like Children of Bodom and Dance with the Dead. But then there's also oddball stuff, like I've listened to the mechanicus soundtrack while working out.

The music I listen to while lifting is quite diverse, but it's quite terrible. A lot of Kanye, mostly from Yeezus because that's what fits my taste the most, Death Grips, and then the worst part, the zoomer music.
I started listening to Bladee in 2017 and I really love his music, but listening to it while lifting is a weird ass thing. The music I listen to was not inspired by /mu/. Or Anthony Fantano. I developed it through organic interactions and my friend groomed me into listening to Death Grips lol.

 

[MS Paint Gigachad]

For me, it's usually either metal, dark synth or sometimes drift phonk

My bad, should've elaborated further. What I mean by "metal" is a pretty weird mix and includes stuff like Thrash (Megadeth, Pantera, Paranorm), MeloDeath (the album Clayman by In Flames, Children of Bodom, Nightrage), TechDeath (Archspire, Revocation), Melodic Techdeath (mainly Allegaeon, some Obscura), and then stuff like Nightwish and Amaranthe. Love my stuff melodic, but I can enjoy some heaviness.

For my dark synth, Dance With The Dead, Perturbator, and Carpenter Brut.

For Phonk, well, it's whatever happens to be cool and hip with the zoomers.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

I have never done a turkish get up, but the way I see it, YES, because the KB swing is a simple, stable hinge where the weakest link is pretty darn strong, meanwhile the get up seems unstable, and the weakest link is probably gonna be like the delt or something.

Also, I've never seen an adjustable kettlebell, do they even exist?

They do exist, although I don't have any. The ones I've seen are sort of an orb shape that you open up and put plates into. Seems like kind of a pain in the ass if you want to change them frequently.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Minor win today. I have a chronic pain disease that flares up from time to time. I'm at the tail end of a flare, still not feeling great, but I got down on the floor and did some ab/leg exercises. Not many reps yet, because I'm terribly out of shape, but I won't get in shape without actually beginning somewhere.

As for push-ups I can't even do one. Part of that is I'm still overweight by about 50 pounds, but mostly it's just really weak arms. I'm going to do some arm exercises tomorrow and eventually I will get to the point where I can add push-ups. I can plank for a few seconds at least, not long but again I have to start somewhere.

Doing girl push-ups while kneeling is not an option. I can't kneel without a lot of pain in one knee due to a mechanical issue that can't be fixed. I haven't tried doing them while leaning on my counter yet. Maybe tomorrow.

You should try biking/spinning or walking/slow jogs if you're that out of shape (and maybe overweight), you need to make your body relearn stress/rest cycles and put it into a parasympathetic state to get rid of that chronic inflammation.
Weight lifting is absolutely great but its effect on cardio are less pronounced and the weight loss less intense.
Low intensity cardio, and couple that with weights as you progress. Your cardiovascular system is the first prio, not shiny bulging muscles (considering the lack of shape).

 

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You should try biking/spinning or walking/slow jogs if you're that out of shape (and maybe overweight), you need to make your body relearn stress/rest cycles and put it into a parasympathetic state to get rid of that chronic inflammation.
Weight lifting is absolutely great but its effect on cardio are less pronounced and the weight loss less intense.
Low intensity cardio, and couple that with weights as you progress. Your cardiovascular system is the first prio, not shiny bulging muscles (considering the lack of shape).

You're absolutely right about needing cardio for health. I have a stationary bike that I will get back to riding on on muscle rest days. I can ride it for about 45 minutes to an hour at about six-eight miles an hour for most of the time, but I find it incredibly boring. I don't have a road bike, the last time I rode one I fell off. Walking is painful due to an ancient not weight related knee injury - same knee that now makes kneeling impossible. I do walk anyway, but not on a regular basis.

If I were to join my gym again I can do water aerobics or just swim. I want to get more of a habit built up before I join the gym again though. Last time I did it I just never went often enough to make it worth the cost, even though insurance subsidized it. Maybe I can convince my husband to go with me (haha right).

 

[AgendaPoster]

You're absolutely right about needing cardio for health. I have a stationary bike that I will get back to riding on on muscle rest days. I can ride it for about 45 minutes to an hour at about six-eight miles an hour for most of the time, but I find it incredibly boring. I don't have a road bike, the last time I rode one I fell off. Walking is painful due to an ancient not weight related knee injury - same knee that now makes kneeling impossible. I do walk anyway, but not on a regular basis.

If I were to join my gym again I can do water aerobics or just swim. I want to get more of a habit built up before I join the gym again though. Last time I did it I just never went often enough to make it worth the cost, even though insurance subsidized it. Maybe I can convince my husband to go with me (haha right).

Swimming is great, even better than spinning for good cardio without putting excessive stress on your joints. Don't overdo it on the bike, just listen to some podcast or watch a YT video to not get bored, and keep the HR in the lower zones. You don't want to get into tempo and interval high HR zones, get lactic, 2 days of muscular fever, and get discouraged yet again.
Key is being consistent and staying uninjured/healthy as much as possible, get used to regular exercise, have patience, results will show, they always do.

 

[Quantum Diabetes]

Another random question for you guys: what music (if any) do you usually listen to when working out?

For me, it's usually either metal, dark synth or sometimes drift phonk. So, recently stuff like Children of Bodom and Dance with the Dead. But then there's also oddball stuff, like I've listened to the mechanicus soundtrack while working out.

Actually I like cheerful stuff like third wave ska or maybe “No more kings”, something really goofy like the Aquabats gets me more pumped that anything. “super rad” is the go to for starters.

Anyways is this “Ghost” brand worth a shit? I usually buy plain protein powder and mix in some Mexican koolaid stuff like soursop flavor or whatever but a healthy way to have Oreo flavor might be a good thing, it’s just way more expensive than I usually buy. I buy the cans of ghost from circle k but I don’t know if the powder wouid have the same flavor.
Also I find eating pickled beets is a better nitric oxide booster than buying supplements, not to mention tastier.
I sprinkle mine with that chelada stuff you’re supposed to put in beer.