Disaster Canadian doctor who's euthanized 400 says she helped kill man deemed incapable of choosing suicide - Dying With Dignity Canada associates Ellen Wiebe and Stefanie Green have reportedly euthanized more than 700 people between them

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  • Dying With Dignity Canada associates Ellen Wiebe and Stefanie Green have reportedly euthanized more than 700 people between them
  • Wiebe touted that she once helped a patient die after he was initially rejected because he lacked the ability to make his own health care decisions
  • Green, an obstetrician, describes her work as making 'deliveries' while insisting that people aren't getting Medical Assistance In Dying due to poverty
  • One woman said the mental anguish from loneliness and poverty outweighed her physical pain from chronic leukemia in her decision to want to die
  • While another man is just one signature away from being approved despite listing a fear of homelessness as his key reason for wanting to die
A Canadian doctor who's personally euthanized more than 400 people said she helped kill a man who was previously deemed unsuitable for assisted suicide.

Ellen Wiebe, a doctor who works with Dying With Dignity Canada, boasted in a seminar for physicians working in assisted suicide about the time she treated a patient who did not qualify for the end of life service.

A Medical Assistance In Dying (MAID) assessor had rejected the unnamed man because he did not have a serious illness or 'the capacity to make informed decisions about his own personal health.'

But the man eventually made his way to Wiebe, who cleared him, flew him out to Vancouver, and euthanized him, The New Atlantic reports.

'It's the most rewarding work we've ever done,' Wiebe said of MAID during a 2020 event in a video that's since been shared online.

Obstetrician Stefanie Green, a colleague of Wiebe, also revealed that she's helped 300 people die in Canada's controversial MAID program, which eclipses similar programs in the US.

She uses the term 'deliveries' to describe both her work helping women give birth - and people end their lives.

In 2021, only 486 people died using California's assisted suicide program, but that same year in Canada, 10,064 died used MAID to die that year. MAID has now grown so popular that Canada has both anti-suicide hotlines to try and stop people killing themselves, as well as pro-suicide hotlines for people wanting to end their lives.

MAID has fallen into further scrutiny over claims that people are now seeking assisted suicide due to poverty and homelessness or mental anguish, as opposed to the traditional method of the terminally-ill seeking a painless death.

Among the new type of patients was Rosina Kamis, 41, who said she needed to be 'euthanized ASAP.'

According to an analysis of Kamis' medical history and messages sent to doctors and family reviewed by The New Atlantic, the 41-year-old was facing eviction, needed to crowdfund to pay for food, and was afraid that she would 'suffer alone.'

She also feared being institutionalized, and saw MAID as 'the best solution for all.'

Although Kamis suffered from chronic leukemia and other health problems, her condition was not terminal, The New Atlantic reported, and a letter seemingly made for her attorney painted a different picture as to why she sought euthanasia.

'Please keep all this secret while I am still alive because… the suffering I experience is mental suffering, not physical,' she wrote.

Kamis was approved for MAID and chose to die on September 26, 2021, the date of her ex-husband's birthday. She passed away in her basement apartment after a doctor gave her a lethal injection.

Some of these new cases were highlighted in a 2021 MAID presentation by Althea Gibb-Carsley, a recently retired care coordinator and social worker for the Vancouver Coastal Health's assisted dying program.

In the presentation, Gibb-Carsley describes a 55-year-old patient by the name of Mary, who suffers chronic pains and cannot tackle the issue due to her low income.

'She does not want to die, but she's suffering terribly and she's been maxing out her credit cards. She has no other options,' the presentation reads.

Gibb-Carsley goes on to describe similar situations with a patient named Nancy, 68, a former doctor who ran out of savings, and another named Greg, 57, a writer suffering from a history of trauma who lacks housing.

Gibb-Carsley also highlighted a case of a 38-year-old trans woman named Lucy, an immigrant who suffers from chronic pains and felt trapped in her one-room studio apartment with 'no air or light and creepy men all around.'

It is unclear if any of these people were ever approved for assisted suicide.

Gibb-Carsley's presentation concluded with a note that the problem points out the inadequacies of the welfare state that is incapable of helping those who are struggling to make ends meet.

The report appears to suggest that Canada should bolster its social welfare programs based on the rising number of people seeking to end their lives due to poverty.

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A presentation for MAID providers highlighted that people would seek end of life services because of financial and housing struggles

In regards to these types of patients, Wiebe told The New Atlantic: 'It is rare for assessors to have patients who have unmet needs, but it does happen. Usually these unmet needs are around loneliness and poverty.

'As all Canadians have rights to an assisted death, people who are lonely or poor also have those rights.'

Green, who describes her work as an obstetrician and euthanasia assistant as helping with 'deliveries,' told the publication that stories about the poor seeking MAID are just 'clickbait.'

'You cannot access MAID in this country because you can't get housing,' she said. 'That is clickbait. These stories have not been reported fully.'

However, that is one person who is one step closer to MAID services despite listing poverty as his primary reason for seeking assisted suicide.

Lee Landry, 65, told assessors for the procedure he 'doesn't want to die' but has applied for MAID because he can't afford to live comfortably.

Astonishingly, a doctor has given one of the two signatures required for Landry to end his own life.

Landry is awaiting the decision of a second doctor who has assessed his eligibility. If that doctor rejects the application, Landry says he will simply 'shop' around for another who's prepared to sign off on his death - something that's allowed under Canada's assisted dying laws.

The shocking case lays bare the increasingly relaxed approach to euthanasia in Canada, where experts say 'choosing to die is more accessible than support for people with disabilities'.

Landry uses a wheelchair and has several other disabilities that mean he is eligible for MAID, including epilepsy and diabetes. But until recently, he was able to live comfortably, sharing his modest home in Medicine Hat, Alberta, with his service dog.

Changes to his state benefits when he turned 65 in May meant his income was cut and he's now left with around $120 per month after paying for medical bills and essentials.

Landry is also braced for a rent hike in January that could mean his benefits no longer cover the cost of essentials, placing him on the brink of homelessness.

'I don't want to go homeless,' he told the DailyMail. 'I don't want to end up living in a van so I can't make the van payments. I don't want to end up homeless. Who would want to be homeless at 16, never mind 65?'

Many of gone on to blast Canada's euthanasia program, including former Paralympian Christine Gauthier, who slammed her government for offering to euthanize her when she grew frustrated at delays in having a wheelchair lift installed in her home.


Gauthier, a retired Army Corporal testified in Parliament last month that a Veterans Affairs Canada (VAC) caseworker made the assisted suicide offer.

After years of delays in getting the home lift, Gauthier says the caseworker told her: 'Madam, if you are really so desperate, we can give you medical assistance in dying now.'

The worker who made the offer hasn't been named, but they are feared to have offered three other veterans who contacted VAC with problems the same 'solution', Global News reported.

The scandal emerged a week after Canada's veterans affairs minister confirmed that at least four other veterans were similarly offered access to Canada' MAID law in response to their troubles, a situation Prime Minister Justin Trudeau called 'absolutely unacceptable'.

Gauthier said that she has been seeking VAC assistance in getting a chairlift for her home since 2017.

'It has isolated me greatly, because I have to crawl down my butt with the wheelchair in front of me to be able to access my house,' she told Global News.

She said she was shocked by the offer of suicide from the caseworker, which came in a conversation in 2019.

'I was like, 'I can't believe that you will … give me an injection to help me die, but you will not give me the tools I need to help me live,'' she said. 'It was really shocking to hear that kind of comment.'

Gauthier was injured in an Army training accident in 1989, suffering permanent damage to her knees and her spine.

She competed in the 2016 Paralympic Games and Prince Harry's 2016 Invictus Games as a canoeist, power-lifter, and indoor rower.

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Gauthier's testimony, and reports of other similar cases, have drawn public outcry, and Trudeau vowed to make changes.

Medically assisted suicide was first legalized in Canada for terminally ill patients in 2016, but last year, the law expanded to offer euthanasia to patients whose natural death is not believed to be imminent.

Now, people with long-term disabilities can also receive medical assistance in dying. Last year more than 10,000 people in Canada died by euthanasia.

Starting next year, a new law will allow people suffering from mental illness, which had not previously be a qualifying condition, to receive medically assisted suicide.

The expansion of Canada's euthanasia laws, already among the most permissive on the planet, has raised concerns from some quarters.

Amid the latest expansion, Canada has two hotline systems for people looking for help in for assisted suicide, as well as those who want to be talked out of killing themselves.

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I know dudes who still have trouble with the fact they took a dozen or so human lives.

Hell, the Canadian AND USA VA's have support groups and everything else to help people do what they did during war.

This creature has executed more people than some battles have killed, and she smiles when she talks about it.

Think on that.

People say "Killing another human being changes you for the worse" and 'even taking one life scars you' and are now celebrating a bitch with almost the same body count as the Vietnamese got on the US during the Tet Offensive.

Both of these women together have killed more people than the US lost during the Tet Offensive.

And at least the Vietnamese were killing people who could fight back and had guns.
 
I am an organ donor and support euthanasia for painful, terminal conditions but Dying with Dignity is our biggest "right to die" charity and they are really corrupt IMO. Never, ever liked them, even before MAID got passed. They were big in advocating for MAID.
It should have never been allowed to be used for mental illness and other treatable, non terminal conditions and social issues like lack of disability support and poverty. There needs to be more access to hospice and palliative care in this country, so nobody "has" to choose suicide/euthanasia due to untreated, unbearable pain.
As have the invocations to the gods to strike you down if you do any of those things.
They need to bring it back, that's based.
 
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"Maxed out credit cards? Schedule a free euthanasia appointment today!"

Sounds like something out of Terry Gilliam's Brazil.
There was a Monty Python bit, I think in "The Meaning of Life," where some organ procurer knocked on a door and basically murdered the housewife there for her liver. It was cringe to watch 30 years ago because it was so extreme and over the top you wondered if they were trying to make a point, just be gross, or what- it wasn't funny, just depressing and trolly.

Now it's getting closer to being reality.
 
Liberals: "Well at least we don't have to pay to stay alive like in America"

Canadian Healthcare: "So we can get you in 4 months to treat your potential cancer spots or you can just off yourself"
 
Good god, that chart showing how rapidly government euthanasia has been increasing over the past... just 7 years?? Following that trend and given the fact that it's become so widespread and notable within the last year that journalists have only now started reporting on it in depth... I'm worried to see what the numbers are going to be for 2022 when they're released.
 
Imagine if they'll start sending these MAID doctors to do "house calls" on people without even asking them first. If they see you have a bad credit rating, low income, and history of mental illness, then they'll just send someone to "help" you.

Good lord, what a fucking nightmare country. Maybe those Ben Garrison cartoons weren't so crazy after all.
 
Wiebe touted that she once helped a patient die after he was initially rejected because he lacked the ability to make his own health care decisions
When this bitch helps a sick man consent to suicide, she's a hero. But when I help a blacked-out drunk chick consent to sex, I'm a rapist.
 
She’s killed 400 people. Most of whom were People who could, with care, have lived and felt happiness. How can she possibly feel proud of that? She’s a serial killer.
We don’t need open government sponsored euthanasia, we need to care for each other. If someone’s lonely, care for them. If they’re homeless, house them. If they’re terminally ill in dreadful pain we have palliative care, and right at the end maybe a little too much morphine. But so few of these cases are the ones this was sold with, the intractable agony/ terminal illness ones. Most are just a shocking lack of care. It’s a dreadful indictment of our society. Jesus would have cared for the lonely, not sent a ghoul dressed as a doctor to kill them
Dr. Weibe has a long and sordid history. IIRC she's the first one to have started using RU-486 (the "abortion pill") before it was even legalized in Canada. But I guess flushing fetuses by proxy wasn't doing it for her, so she expanded into Kevorkian territory. It would not surprise me if she's the one that did in Sue Rodriguez, the ALS sufferer who unsuccessfully challenged the law against suicide (assisted or not) at the Supreme Court back in the 90s. This bitch has some sanpaku eyes going here. She's probably telling herself that either Everybody Goes To Heaven, or there is no afterlife, only painless non-consciousness/extinguishment of one's life force. But yeah, she's probably a cluster B Clusterfuck or worse, heavy on the narcissism, maybe even a full-on socio/psychopath.

Hell, these smoothbrained morons aren't just taking out the most vulnerable. They're taking out the Left's (Liberal, NDP, Green, and Bloc) most reliable voting base.
 
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When this bitch helps a sick man consent to suicide, she's a hero. But when I help a blacked-out drunk chick consent to sex, I'm a rapist.
You want to know what a pirate once said to Alexander the Great right before his inevitable execution?
"I ravage the seas and they call me a pirate, but you ravage the world and they call you a king."
 
'As all Canadians have rights to an assisted death, people who are lonely or poor also have those rights.'

This is horrific and the bitch who said it deserves the rope. Let's just kill off people who are poor or lonely. Christ on a bike, Canada has truly lost their humanity.
The Capitalists are creaming their pants to statements like this. Instead of investing time into working to get people out of poverty and helping treat mental illnesses, why not just kill them instead?

How the hell can a country claim to be leftist and yet support services as egregiously barbaric as this?
 
Imagine if they'll start sending these MAID doctors to do "house calls" on people without even asking them first. If they see you have a bad credit rating, low income, and history of mental illness, then they'll just send someone to "help" you.

Good lord, what a fucking nightmare country. Maybe those Ben Garrison cartoons weren't so crazy after all.
And people will say you are just crazy hyperbolic and it will never happen.
Then it happens and no one will call you crazy anymore.
 
The Capitalists are creaming their pants to statements like this. Instead of investing time into working to get people out of poverty and helping treat mental illnesses, why not just kill them instead?

How the hell can a country claim to be leftist and yet support services as egregiously barbaric as this?

Canada never claimed to be 'leftist'. The most often repeated claim is "compassionate". This avoids any debating or discovering any points of protest within the never-ending logical incongruities of the state.

That being said I do believe the right to be killed for being poor is Elizabethean compassion followed to it's ideological conclusion.
 
The Capitalists are creaming their pants to statements like this. Instead of investing time into working to get people out of poverty and helping treat mental illnesses, why not just kill them instead?

How the hell can a country claim to be leftist and yet support services as egregiously barbaric as this?

Capitalists (in the ideological sense) are just as horrified as you are.

Collectivism could also lead to purges. Canada is getting rid of these people because they're a drain on the centralized, collectivized medical system.

I wouldn't call Canada communist, but they're certainly leaning more towards collectivism in general.

Those who do not work shall not eat, after all.

The same problems would remain if communism/socialism were instituted. I wouldn't blame capitalism or communism. Godlessness is the problem. Godless people wind up believing anything.
 
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