Nicholas J. Fuentes vs Jaden McNeil - A jilted ex lover cries and seethes eternally for months on end

I’ve seen screenshots of what they say is the top donor’s account saying he’s gay. If true (if the screenshots are real and that is, indeed, his donor’s real account), I’m surprised he’s not offended by some of the shit Jaden says about homosexuality, to be honest. Jaden can be pretty judgmental about stuff like that, from what I can see. Or maybe he’s not and just thinks it’s morally wrong in a religious sense, idk.
Nick is 100% a lying retard, but I refuse to believe that Jaden multiple times has been involved with very obviously gay men, without knowing it. His intense disavowal of gayness reeks of desperation, like the AF catboys.

Isn't it strange how Jaden seems to be surrounded by gay men no matter where he goes, and is just completely oblivious of it? Makes you think...

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Looking further into Ultros archives they have a few more archived of him saying he's gay. i don't know much about Ultros but if anyone else in AF tweeted like this I'd call them gay https://archive.ph/https://twitter.com/southsidecards/*
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also archived are tweets as late as March 23rd of Ultros hyping Nick and hating on Joe Kent for disavowing him
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gonna be honest, I don't buy it. you know if Ultros was on the other side and this was found, Jaden would not be excusing it.

Nick on Killstream yesterday to talk about Metokur/Michael Alberto but primarily talks about Jaden:
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I don’t buy it, either and I’m not sure Jaden really does, either. He SAYS he does, but you could hear it in his voice, there’s doubt.
I agree with you.
Not that Jaden would ever stop taking the money, though, no matter what he believes (nor did he ever say he would, to be fair, but like you said, it’s definitely something he would call AFers out on, so…)
  • 26:00 wondering if Jaden has to jerk off on video for Ultros after his streams.
  • "Jaden fleed my apartment because I asked him to pay rent".
  • claims Jaden actually moved to Champagne Urbana IL instead of Kansas or Nebraska like he's said. he previously read an Urbana IL address on a twitter space
Yes! To add, Nick says he told Jaden he had to be out by May 1 and Jaden moved right before that (late April). So Jaden went on the Kino Casino like a week after moving out.
  • says that Jaden's gf has 2 siblings from different fathers, one of them is Mexican, so when Jaden calls Nick a spic, Nick thinks Jaden's gf should be pissed on behalf of her half brother. also says she's ugly

Nick also wondered out loud about how awkward the wedding could be. “Does her family know how you feel and talk about Hispanics?” (Paraphrasing) and brings up the whole “shut you fucking sp*c mouth,” thing.
You can tell that shit really pissed Nick off, that’s when he changed from kind of angry but sad and hurt to just pure rage.

Nick is 100% a lying retard, but I refuse to believe that Jaden multiple times has been involved with very obviously gay men, without knowing it. His intense disavowal of gayness reeks of desperation, like the AF catboys.

Isn't it strange how Jaden seems to be surrounded by gay men no matter where he goes, and is just completely oblivious of it? Makes you think...

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It mean, yeah. It’s odd. I also think identity crisis/self-hate is common in these sort of movements related to identity politics, though, on both sides. Think Rachel Doziel. All these people are drawn to these types of movements for a reason - either because they are bothered by what they see happening around them (Jaden said he initially got involved because of Hispanics, them moving into his town and “destroying” it within a few years) or because they are deeply bothered by something within themselves or about themselves and join these movements to suppress/overcompensate for it.
So, if you join a movement like this, you’re probably gonna meet a lot of closeted men, men who aren’t completely white, etc.
 
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Straight men typically don't think about other men having sex with men. Nick is also just a bitter ex girlfriend which is why all this is happening. Jaden isn't interesting enough (imo) for me to pay attention to him to the point it's suddenly interesting he has a gay top donor. Jaden seems like a victim of nick fuentes.

I guess it's interesting? "Jaden disavows all things to do with homosexuality" meanwhile Jaden was kept in Nick's basement as some sort of pet while pictures were taken of him. idk the whole situation is weird but focusing on who donates to jaden seems like a waste lol
 
A few clips from Jaden's stream last night.


  • Nick always raged when Jaden spent time with other friends or girls. Jaden has texts to prove this.
  • One of Nick's top donors was a 50+ year old gay man who donated $20,000 to AFPAC. He came to Chicago for a few days and invited Nick and Jaden to go ziplining with him. Nick said he was too busy, and voluntold Jaden to go with the donor by himself. Jaden refused; Nick was pissed.
  • Nick also wanted Jaden's credit card numbers and wanted Jaden to open a bank account for Nick.


  • Nick would constantly talk about how great he was and how he hated all of his friends (including Baked, Ralph, Dalton, Simon, and his assistant).
  • Nick openly talked about his plans to take blackmail on his ex-friends to the feds, dox ex-friends, and sue Simon to ruin his life.
  • Groyper generals don't know how insane Nick is because they never had to spend a significant amount of time with him in person.


  • Jaden talks about some of the people in Nick's circle including Milo Yiannopoulos (outed behind the scenes for hooking up with a bunch of college students), Ali Alexander (gay pedophile) and Trey Godzich (pedophile who posted CP on Twitter)


 
Straight men typically don't think about other men having sex with men. Nick is also just a bitter ex girlfriend which is why all this is happening. Jaden isn't interesting enough (imo) for me to pay attention to him to the point it's suddenly interesting he has a gay top donor. Jaden seems like a victim of nick fuentes.

I guess it's interesting? "Jaden disavows all things to do with homosexuality" meanwhile Jaden was kept in Nick's basement as some sort of pet while pictures were taken of him. idk the whole situation is weird but focusing on who donates to jaden seems like a waste lol
The entire discussion is meant to demoralize Jaden and others from talking about and exposing Nick and his movement, it's a red herring that Nick thinks will pull the financial rug out from under Jaden so he goes away. Nick said as much when speaking with Ralph. Nick only goes after Ultros because he has hardly anything else on Jaden save creepshots.
 
The petty behavior towards Jaden over getting a girlfriend really reminds me of the pettiness of a woman. My working theory is that he wasn't effectively socialized with male peers his age during high school and college, and as a result adopted more feminine ways of behaving. This is why almost all the people in his movement, especially inner circle, are less masculine and more feminine. When those people end up adopting more masculine traits (getting married (Simon), girlfriend (Jaden), wanting to do physical labor, etc) they tend to leave the movement. Ask yourself this, are any of Nick's 'friends' (Beardson, Ralph, Dalton, etc) traditionally masculine?
 
Ask yourself this, are any of Nick's 'friends' (Beardson, Ralph, Dalton, etc) traditionally masculine?

Ralph is totally masculine. Just look at the size of his balls:

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Nick’s sad attempts at trying to “own” Jaden includes doxxing and obsessively stalking Jaden’s pay piggy.

Imagine being so mad and resentful that you dox a random supporter of your former friend’s show. This is the level of pettiness Nick displays on the daily. Every day I always see new info about Nick seething about Jaden. Jaden left in April 30, it’s now October, it’s been nearly half a year, and still Nick seethes about Jaden daily

Imagine if somebody compiled all of Nick’s cope/seethe/rage/lie sessions he has about Jaden. It would take up probably over an hour or more of content by now. Over one guy.

I really do think that Jaden utterly buck broke Nick after his first Kino Casino episode. Combined with more info from Jaden about Nick’s disgusting interests and you get a clearer picture of who Nick really is. A petty faggot that can’t let go of shit

This probably explains Patrick Casey’s silence. Casey’s doing his own thing and doesn’t bother Nick for many reasons (possible blackmail according to Jaden).

Patrick Casey = Zidan for Nick Fuentes and Jaden himself could be the Gator in the AF sphere.
 
It would take up probably over an hour or more of content by now. Over one guy.
It would be multiple hours, I wouldn't even want to estimate cause I know I'd fuck it up. He has spent at least 1 minute of each day of those six months talking about Jaden, many days he spends many minutes talking about him. I'd also say that for this particular metric you might want to take into consideration the number of times he has had his minions go out and talk about it as well. To this point he now has Beardson doing 4+ streams devoted to talking ONLY about Jaden's donor.
 
I didn’t catch much of Jaden’s stream tonight, but from what I saw, he basically didn’t further address anything else about Ultros, he just dismissed it as a gayop.
Deep down, he has to know Ultros is lying to him. Maybe he’s just backing off of it because he realizes it’s clearly something Ultros doesn’t want him to know and he wants to respect that because that’s his income. Or maybe he doesn’t even want to know.
All I know is, Ultros has previously said Jaden has become like family to him and he apparently helped him get an attorney for all this Nick drama. They both say they’ve only met once, at AFPAC, but clearly, they talk a lot behind the scenes.
I wish Jaden would just say, “Even if he is gay, it doesn’t matter to me, we’re close, he’s done a lot for me and it’s not my place to judge,” or something like that. Something that tells me Ultros could feel comfortable telling him if he wants to. I get the feeling Ultros doesn’t want him to know because he’s afraid it would change their relationship, that they wouldn’t be as close or something and that’s really sad to me, that there’s someone out there so lonely that he feels a need to buy this friendship and still fears telling him about such a major part of himself and it’s even sadder to me if his fears are warranted.
Or maybe it has nothing to do w/Jaden and it’s just a part of himself that he’s now deeply ashamed of. I don’t know. What do y’all think?
 
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What do y’all think?
that groypers are probably just gaslighting people about ultros using selective social media posts and the entire thing is probably fake, gay, and trying to divert attention away from fuentes and his own sides faggotry. beardson didn't stream for what a week? then he came back doing less than a stream a day until he got called up by Nick to talk about this and he has done like 4 shows in 2 days all just trying to push the narrative the guy is gay. makes it sus if nothing else.
 
Nick’s sad attempts at trying to “own” Jaden includes doxxing and obsessively stalking Jaden’s pay piggy.

Imagine being so mad and resentful that you dox a random supporter of your former friend’s show. This is the level of pettiness Nick displays on the daily. Every day I always see new info about Nick seething about Jaden. Jaden left in April 30, it’s now October, it’s been nearly half a year, and still Nick seethes about Jaden daily

Imagine if somebody compiled all of Nick’s cope/seethe/rage/lie sessions he has about Jaden. It would take up probably over an hour or more of content by now. Over one guy.

I really do think that Jaden utterly buck broke Nick after his first Kino Casino episode. Combined with more info from Jaden about Nick’s disgusting interests and you get a clearer picture of who Nick really is. A petty faggot that can’t let go of shit

This probably explains Patrick Casey’s silence. Casey’s doing his own thing and doesn’t bother Nick for many reasons (possible blackmail according to Jaden).

Patrick Casey = Zidan for Nick Fuentes and Jaden himself could be the Gator in the AF sphere.
It's true that Nick is petty and ridiculous, especially since by now many of the remaining Groypers are applauding him for this and encouraging him to act out. The result is that he doesn't have many people in his inner circle who will tell him when to calm down about Jaden, and he seemingly just keeps going.

But there's also something that I've noticed about Groypers now that cozy.tv is here. Since cozy.tv is based around continual broadcasts but often is just drama, personal stuff, or other non-political content, there are a few weird Groyper incels who seem to just look at cozy.tv as a place to sit and watch for hours to get a constant flow of content to enliven their petty lives. The result is that they end up centring around this kind of manufactured e-drama, from the lolcow uprising to the Jaden split, and viewers start to live vicariously through this while political content becomes window-dressing. The Groyper culture is such that dedicated Groypers by now are more people who feel a sense of personal fulfilment and excitement from identifying with Nick's petty dramas, and so content tends to go in that direction.

There are probably also more casual Groypers who still view it as a primarily political movement, but I'm not sure that most are that invested outside of hearing about the old Groyper Wars. The cozy lineup doesn't exactly scream 'serious political movement.'

And yes, Nick's cope/seethe sessions about Jaden would probably last well over an hour, IIRC some of his Twitter Spaces about the issue lasted for ages.
 
What do y’all think?
If Ultros is really a gay man, I don't feel bad for him. He voluntarily gave thousands of dollars to a homophobe. That's a him problem.
The whole question is retarded because Nick tolerated (if not welcomed) the presence of gays in/around America First for years. Black Swan, Milo, Ali Alexander, Lucian Wintrich, Jon Miller, Kami, the sussy squad, at least one megadonor, and probably more.

Imagine if somebody compiled all of Nick’s cope/seethe/rage/lie sessions he has about Jaden. It would take up probably over an hour or more of content by now. Over one guy.
It surpassed an hour of content before Jaden went on the Kino Casino. It's many, many hours at this point.
 
that groypers are probably just gaslighting people about ultros using selective social media posts and the entire thing is probably fake, gay, and trying to divert attention away from fuentes and his own sides faggotry. beardson didn't stream for what a week? then he came back doing less than a stream a day until he got called up by Nick to talk about this and he has done like 4 shows in 2 days all just trying to push the narrative the guy is gay. makes it sus if nothing else.
I mean, to me, it’s not even a question whether or not Ultros is gay, it’s obvious, the writing is all over the wall in neon-red letters visible from miles away lol. he’s made multiple posts about it going back years. He used to be part of gays4trump, called himself The Gay Patriot, messaged guys saying “you’re hot, are you gay?” and some other stuff.
And that’s no big deal. What’s weird (to me) is that he’s denying it and Jaden claims to believe him. Why not just own it and move on?
 
Why not just own it and move on?
Its pretty obvious isnt it? The biggest attack against Nick is that he's gay, and Jaden would constantly criticize them for softening on issues like homosexuality and others, allowing fags like Milo, Jon Miller, sussy squad, etc. to be in the movement. He cant really turn around and say "yeah my big donor is a gay man a lot older than me but there's nothing wrong with that" after months of criticizing Nick for very similar things. It would be hypocritical given jadens beliefs and give groypers tons of easy attacks against him
 
Its pretty obvious isnt it? The biggest attack against Nick is that he's gay, and Jaden would constantly criticize them for softening on issues like homosexuality and others, allowing fags like Milo, Jon Miller, sussy squad, etc. to be in the movement. He cant really turn around and say "yeah my big donor is a gay man a lot older than me but there's nothing wrong with that" after months of criticizing Nick for very similar things. It would be hypocritical given jadens beliefs and give groypers tons of easy attacks against him
I mean, yeah, I suppose an argument could be made that it’s a bit hypocritical. And I guess that’s his angle, that’s the reasoning behind the denial. Jaden’s never gone after Nick or AF for anything related to their donors, though, he’s gone after them for platforming people who the movement claims to be against - nonwhites, homosexuals, etc.
And I’d say denying it in the face of overwhelming evidence is also hypocritical, considering he always makes fun of them for doing the same when it comes to Cozy and Nick. Not to mention he just looks absurd, at this point, because it’s so damn obvious lol.
 
Its pretty obvious isnt it? The biggest attack against Nick is that he's gay, and Jaden would constantly criticize them for softening on issues like homosexuality and others, allowing fags like Milo, Jon Miller, sussy squad, etc. to be in the movement. He cant really turn around and say "yeah my big donor is a gay man a lot older than me but there's nothing wrong with that" after months of criticizing Nick for very similar things. It would be hypocritical given jadens beliefs and give groypers tons of easy attacks against him
I am standing by my earlier prediction this ends with Nick and Jaden outing each other in MAD followed by screeching from Nick that Jaden had premarital sex and therefore ruined his virginity while Jaden argues blowjobs from women made him less gay (which could be true but still embarassing)
 
It would be multiple hours, I wouldn't even want to estimate cause I know I'd fuck it up. He has spent at least 1 minute of each day of those six months talking about Jaden, many days he spends many minutes talking about him. I'd also say that for this particular metric you might want to take into consideration the number of times he has had his minions go out and talk about it as well. To this point he now has Beardson doing 4+ streams devoted to talking ONLY about Jaden's donor.
no just streams. the twitter spaces. It could easily fill a full 24 hours. Which I'm sure nick would love and listen to on repeat...just him endlessly bitching about unrequited love from Jaden
 
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