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I appreciate your contrarian takes, but this is just disturbing
(07/29/2022) - New Chris Jail Letter - Barb is described as being "zombie-like" and like a "scared deer in a headlight", Chris shit talks jail staff, Chris adamant about the fundraiser
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- 4 de Jul, 2022
She was a whore in her early life, she abused Cole, she had another child way too late in her life, and she barely raised that child. None of that is an excuse to downplay her being raped while she's ridden with dementia.
And Ruckersville isn't "bumfuck" Virginia. There's no "bumfuck" left on that far of the east coast. Stop trying to flex your libertarianism and accept that that bitch ass retard is going to sap our money one way or another, and the best way for him to sap our money is going to jail.
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- 24 de Jul, 2022
while i do agree that this whole mess is barbs fault for essentially making chris her replacement for bob. i dont think any of this would be going on right now if she was fully into whatever went on with chris. she would tell chris to keep it between him and her and when asked by police and anyone else she would deny anything had occurred and this whole saga would have never happened. the fact that chris is banned from returning home and not allowed to even be near barb implies some form of evidence was found so either barb snitched or they found some other form of evidence.
as far as barb still being able to drive or at least having a license and all that is concerned the amount of car accidents that involve old people unfit to drive is pretty high actually. you dont get a mental check or anything of that nature in most states that im aware of so barb could very well be senile and still get in a car and drive around. only way it stops is if she hits someone and gets her license revoked.
but yeah over all i think this was all chris. however if you told me barb actually started it during some dementia episode where she thought chris was bob i could see that happening but either way chris should have known better which of course due to how barb was raising him especially after bob died i would not be surprised if he saw himself as bobs replacement and if barb is so mentally gone that chris can do whatever he wants to her then she needs to be removed from the house. i say let chris have the house and see how long that lasts.
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I find it hilarious he had to be in a restraint chair. I remember seeing those on some of those shows inside American jails. Here is a short video of an example of the chair. Often they will have to wear a sort of bag over their heads to stop them from spitting.
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1. I wonder if those officers got/would get fired for improper use of equipment.
2. I could imagine Chris squirming and demanding to be let go because he's Jesus with psychic powers.
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- 12 de Sep, 2016
Well well well, a Chris jail letter actually worth reading. Sorry I am late to the "hot takes" party but man, what a mess. First, He admits that Barb only married Bob for his house. Second, Chris-Chan says Barb is "Like a zombie" which will fuck up his legal position from incest to rape. Third he claims that because she is a gold digging zombie that he should have the house and she should be shipped away to wherever, with little regard to her health or wellbeing and any desire (despite the law) to be there for his aging mother/lover. ALL IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH.
All the Kiwis that claimed that Chris' #1 priority in life was to sit in his room at 14BC and play make believe were 100% correct. No 1000% correct. Chris will trade everyone and everything for that damned bedroom. If Mr. Putin himself asked for the location of all U.S. nuclear weapons in exchange for Chris to be allowed to sit in his bedroom at 14BC he would. What a piece of shit, what an absolute low-life. Barb wasn't even some twisted psychologically fucked up motherfuck relationship, he's treating her like a disposable cumrag. Which not only says how long he thinks of his mother, but how low he thinks of women he'd be involved with.
Aside from Chris' admittance that he is inwardly an abomination of a human being, to match the outward appearance, his story about getting kicked out of the psych ward for attempting to perform an exorcism is hilarious, and the idea of him getting strapped to a chair too. I bet he talked back to everyone and walked around like he was the boss. Chris is so sheltered and so unsocialized that his true colours went on display. Meanwhile, Sieg Heilburg is pulling his hair out.
Chris has taken what little sympathy I had for him down to zero. He was without a doubt always like this, just not crazy enough to show it to the whole world with pride.
All the Kiwis that claimed that Chris' #1 priority in life was to sit in his room at 14BC and play make believe were 100% correct. No 1000% correct. Chris will trade everyone and everything for that damned bedroom. If Mr. Putin himself asked for the location of all U.S. nuclear weapons in exchange for Chris to be allowed to sit in his bedroom at 14BC he would. What a piece of shit, what an absolute low-life. Barb wasn't even some twisted psychologically fucked up motherfuck relationship, he's treating her like a disposable cumrag. Which not only says how long he thinks of his mother, but how low he thinks of women he'd be involved with.
Aside from Chris' admittance that he is inwardly an abomination of a human being, to match the outward appearance, his story about getting kicked out of the psych ward for attempting to perform an exorcism is hilarious, and the idea of him getting strapped to a chair too. I bet he talked back to everyone and walked around like he was the boss. Chris is so sheltered and so unsocialized that his true colours went on display. Meanwhile, Sieg Heilburg is pulling his hair out.
Chris has taken what little sympathy I had for him down to zero. He was without a doubt always like this, just not crazy enough to show it to the whole world with pride.
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Gotta say, these oast few letters have been ice cold. Imagine admitting to raping your mother, complaining that the protective order is preventing you from going hime, and then trying to bribe her out of the house. Bonus points for her being so old she's unable to take care of herself.
How does Chris not feel any sense of... I don't know, remorse? Pity?
How does Chris not feel any sense of... I don't know, remorse? Pity?
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He claims. How would he know this?
He claims. Videos and eyewitness reports suggest she’s not that bad. Additionally, she was sent home from the hospital on her own recognizance and her family didn’t step in until the crash.
I repeat this because it’s important to remember that Chris is a habitual liar who will say absolutely anything if he thinks it will get him what he wants. The twist is he’s also very stupid and has little to no theory of mind, so he keeps shooting himself in the foot.
Did he say he actually tried to perform one or did he say the staff was opposed to the idea?
He is?
Chris said "he's been distant" but never really clarified as to how or why. People ran with the idea that Heilberg has cut ties and is leaving, but there's no evidence for that. It's highly likely he's just doing his normal duties since an attorney shouldn't have to sit with and babysit their client 24/7 and would be hard to do his job if he was.
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- 22 de Jun, 2021
Its Chris. Can we really be sure about that? Cause I can almost see Chris doing that based on events recorded of his behavior at cons.
Cops have surprising leeway for what they can and cannot do when it comes to making advertisements or skits for things, at least they do in my neck of the woods.
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Dude WTF is wrong with you? I read this horrifying post twice and I can only come to the conclusion that you're defending what happened to her! Yes, old people have sex. Yes it is disgusting and makes us want to vomit. Yet most sexually active elderly do it with other willing elderly people. Not their own mutant transperg troonfag sons. Come the fuck on. The only reason she lives by herself is her son is in fucking jail. Before that he was her caretaker. If any social worker found out this Norman Bates shit was going on they would have pulled the ripcord on that parachute. She's only alone because that's where she ended up after being FUCKING RAPED. You legit say it's HER FAULT on top of it. Good fucking god, did you even think this post out? Just because she's a piece of shit who birthed another piece of shit doesn't make her a cumdumpster for her genetic throwback offspring. Then to claim the money spent to make sure he gets what's coming to him is wasted, I'm just fucking lost. There's no words I can say that accurately put together the emotion of cringe I'm feeling. I need a shower after this post.
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Cwc is saul goodman with less success and more retardation
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Regarding text messages, Dalton v. Commonwealth (2015)
The Virginia court of appeals stated that while text messages constituted "writings", by themselves, simple screenshots of text messages are inadmissible hearsay, because by themselves it's not really possible to build adequate foundation for them. They're simply too easy to fake.
It's not quite binding case law because it was not actually part of the ruling. The court merely observed that the screenshots were admitted in error, but it was a "harmless error" because their inclusion did not have any meaningful effect on the verdict. Thus, while they agreed with the appellant that they were inadmissible, they found that it was not grounds for appeal in the case. Still, courts in Virginia will refer to Dalton.
It's for the same reason that in the 20th century you couldn't simply admit a typewritten document that says "My name is John Smith, and I murdered John Doe." Anyone could have written it on any typewriter.
Now, it's not impossible to build foundation for these things. For instance that typewritten document could have been found in the possession of John Smith, or an expert could analyze the particulars of the document and determine from the exact positioning of the struck characters that it was produced on John Smith's personal typewriter, but it's a tall order.
A screenshot of a text message is even worse because it's just bits and thus harder to determine provenance. If you're going to include a screenshot, the requirements for its inclusion are going to be very, very high.
The calls and letters are, of course, admissible with proper foundation, and the rules for this are very old, but they can't just be "thrown in". It takes work.
Following the "best evidence" rule, if you're going to include a handwritten letter, if an original exists you must produce the original. A photocopy is only admissible if the original is lost or destroyed. The keeper of the letter also must testify to its authenticity.
If you don't have these things, for instance if the original is destroyed and the recipient is dead, then you can admit a letter but you must build foundation another way. For instance you could have a handwriting expert testify that the writing matches Chris' handwriting.
So what I was saying wasn't that the prosecution couldn't attempt to include all these letters, but rather that they wouldn't bother, because the amount of work for something so unimportant would be unwarranted, especially since many of them could be thrown out anyway due to lack of relevance.
The phone call with Bella will be included because it's the best confession they have (unless Chris flat out confessed to the cops). The best evidence rule applies though, so they're going to have to put in work. For instance they're going to command Bella to produce the original, unedited call if possible.
They're also going to want Bella to give the best testimony possible for evidence that's so important. In the past, that would mean being physically present, though COVID has changed a lot. Restrictions have relaxed enough that I think they would at least want her to video conference from someplace other than her home -- home zoom calls are dicey because of the lack of a controlled environment.
In general courts have treated testimony in the same vein as best evidence. Best testimony would be the that the person is physically there, but if there are circumstances that prevent that, then you do a video call. If for some reason you can't do a video call, then you do a phone call. The important thing is that you do the best you can within the realm of reasonable possibility. You do not use a worse option merely because it's cheaper or more convenient.
I can't find a hard rule for this in Virginia, though in neighboring Maryland the courts have made this standard explicit after defendants made sixth amendment appeals concerning video testimony.
And, of course, you can use stipulation to include just about anything unless it's so bad that the judge complains, but if you're the defendant and your attorney lets the prosecution admit evidence as they please through stipulation, then you need a new attorney. 90% of the time a defense attorney's job is to be able to have a credible threat of making a trial a hassle, thus getting you better terms on your plea agreement.
(This is why having an attorney from a public defender's office is so bad. It's not that they're inherently bad attorneys, it's just that they don't have the *time* to make it painful for the prosecutor, and the prosecutor knows that. A good defense attorney builds a reputation for making a prosecution costly. Fortunately for Chris, Heilberg is not a PD and has a reputation to uphold.)
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Chris wasn't going to amount to anything, and what else is he going to do? Chris really didn't expand his horizons, unless they were troll induced (see Ohio trip). Everything he wanted to do had to be in or within VA, and the only time he wanted to venture out on his own was for Everfree, and we all know what happened there. As discussed, Chris cares about instant gratification. He can visit a pony convention in Australia, but would still want to return home at the end of the day.
Mainstreaming autistic children the Weston Chandler way doesn't work. Chris is the end result of that, and Chris never did learn about respect or boundaries, so it's no secret how he would would show his true self. Heilburg is everyone Chris has ever interacted with.
With every action leading Chris where he is now, I'm surprised you'll find at least 5 people who have sympathy for him. Taking away the 'tism, Chris is a selfish, irredeemable POS. He doesn't deserve the life he lived and needed discipline and consequences, and he is getting it.
Even if Chris gets out with slap on the wrist (I doubt it at this point), Chris will forever be marked as a sexual deviant. I don't expect him to attend any establishment for the remainder of his life.
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- 19 de Jul, 2019
Pointless Sperg dijo:
Of course, text messages do get admitted into evidence sometimes, as Alex Jones just found out.
I doubt Heilberg would do what Jones's attorneys did and accidentially dump the entire contents of Chris's phone onto the prosecution, but presumably the court could order the phone turned over for forensic analysis. Alternately, I imagine Null could submit an affidavit affirming that a particular list of messages is a TRUE and HONEST copy of the messages he exchanged with Chris. Of course, if the defense is looking for a circus they could then subpoena Null so they could cross-examine him about the messages and the affidavit.
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Jones may have had idiot lawyers. He continually fired his lawyers for obeying the law and expected them to work miracles for him despite his inability to take their advice.Of course, text messages do get admitted into evidence sometimes, as Alex Jones just found out.
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Of course, text messages do get admitted into evidence sometimes, as Alex Jones just found out.
Yes, text messages are evidence just like any other form of writing. If they were on Chris' phone when it was seized then it's not a big problem to attribute the messages to him (as long as they documented how the phone was searched).
A randomly uploaded screenshot of a text message is not admissible, however. Think about the BDSM texts. People had to check the pixels to determine for sure they were fake, but imagine if Bella's crew hadn't fucked that up? Just because the pixels are correct doesn't make it good evidence.
There has to be something about the message that makes it attributable. Either how it was found, or using the metadata stored with it.
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I've always said that Chris is autistic AND sociopathic to some extent. His lack of empathy is not normal
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Heilberg's initial strategy was to position Chris as a mentally retarded, suggestible dolt who was taken advantage of by the internet. He figured that meant that if he suggested a group home as a soft landing after all the nasty incest stuff was taken care of, he might be able to mitigate the sentence and arrange for a decent life for Chris.
The court required a professional evaluation, so they carted Chris off to the loony bin, but instead of looking like a poor little retarded boy, he threw fits, was restrained and interfered with other patients. That proved conclusively that the soft landing was off the table. Chris is unfit for a group home environment.
Now Heilberg can make the "poor little retarded boy" argument, but all it's going to buy is a little less time in prison. Chris had his chance to be compliant and have some sort of structured plan for his life after jail, but he blew it. He took the wind out of Heilberg's sails. Now it just gets played out, and Heilberg won't be going for any Hail Mary rescues for poor retarded Chris.