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🤝 CommunityTard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial
Here's a screen recording of the latest BBC report. A totally different story. Rabbit and bag and hollie "snapping" the cord are now replaced by Hollie having been out of the house and returned to find Archie "lying on the floor" with brain damage. It's not like the BBC to make fuckups on that level and Hollie isn't disputing this report. This falls in line with the rumours that she had left him home alone when the hanging occurred.
Ooooh inquest gonna be lit. How do you get from an elaborate story about a rabbit and a joke and a tiktok challenge to 'he was just like that when I found him'? At least the hanging story made sense. How is he supposed to have gotten brain damage in this version? Huffing paint?
Ooooh inquest gonna be lit. How do you get from an elaborate story about a rabbit and a joke and a tiktok challenge to 'he was just like that when I found him'? At least the hanging story made sense. How is he supposed to have gotten brain damage in this version? Huffing paint?
I think in this version he's hung and then the ligature has snapped. Hollie initially described having "snapped" it herself and then he fell. Is she the hulk? I doubt many people could manually snap a dressing gown cord strong enough to have hung a 12 year old.
This is interesting. I tried to make the point (badly!) when those interviews came out about the level of detail not feeling right but I didn't think that the whole thing was made up.
I keep asking myself "why" things are happening in this case. Why is Hollie making up a story about what happened? Why is Ella the family spokesperson? The person who brings the two of them together is Thomas Summers (Hollie's other son, Archie's half brother and Ella's fiancé). Are the two of them trying to protect him?
In my conspiracy a few pages prior I asked how can it be confirmed she was the only person in the house except for her own story. Now she's saying she wasn't even in the house at all.
I now 90% believe he found an open opportunity to do what he wanted to do as opposed to my inclination she mightve been involved.
Not being in the house makes much more sense because as a child you always fear "being caught" doing something you're not supposed to.
Also if I threw a 10lb bag of potatoes off of the second floor landing attached to a banister, the thud would be pretty noticeable. If she made up the story about being at home, it makes her look like a worse mother because my shitty mother once heard me swear outside on a hill 100ft away from my house. To not hear at LEAST 90lb weight dropping in your home as a mother.... I'm judging you. How big is this house? It sounds like average suburuban sized house, not a McMansion.
If we're talking about a polyester belt used for shower robes (for the North Americans) I find it hard to believe that would break his neck. Hangings were seen as gruesome because if you didn't get all the technical details right in order to break the neck, the person would slowly suffocate, writhing and wrangling. Maybe since he's a kid and bones are more brittle but it doesn't seem like they've mentioned significant damage to the neck? Like if he had a neck injury, he'd likely to be paralyzed if he did wake up and no one has mentioned it?
The disturbing fact is Archie may have been strangling for several minutes before succumbing. No average person will ever want to picture the legitimate details of this. A polyester belt that is thick enough to withstand the force of 90lb dead weight and writhing cannot be snapped by human hands. That's not scientifically sound. It had to be cut or torn with an object and ripped by hand.
What we do know as fact is he used a fabric belt tied around a banister and around his neck. The average length of these belts is about 6ft. When he jumped, he had best estimate 4ft between the second floor landing and hanging by his neck. Without snapping his neck, this was unlikely to have killed him immediately. Dogs get trapped on leashes and hang themselves at this length. What kind of fabric was this belt actually? Was it the fluffy robes or a linen/cotton or a silk? Consider how much stretch the fabric has, even if tied tightly to start. Again, no one would think you could "snap" a thick cotton/linen belt. You could "maybe" with a fluffy polyester.
So she was not in the house, or that's the new story at least, and there is no feasible way for her to estimate how long he hung beyond when she left the house and when she returned. For three months she has claimed at least 40 minutes from the last time she saw him. He was not pronounced dead on the scene as he had "signs" of life. To my understanding these were very faint signs of life and to my (not professional) understanding, people can come back without starting to necrotize after 3-5 minutes of "being dead". I'm reminded of people who overdose and technically die for a period of time.
So again, to my understanding, based on the damage and decline, he probably hung, strangling for 10-15 minutes. I'm sure at that point, as most do, he regretted his decision.
Perhaps it does come down to those forty minutes but she needs to prove he only hung for 3 minutes. How can she know if she left for forty and found him in that position? You have to account for that time so I hope she has real proof that says a time frame, otherwise it's illogical to claim 3 minutes unless you saw it happen as you pulled up in the driveway and it took 3 minutes to run inside.
I still, however, 10% feel she has committed a crime that we've not been made aware of yet. Even though the gofundme is kind of bordering on it but GFM by nature is a fraud.
I saw Hollie giving an interview about the decision, the video was on tiktok and I'm kicking myself for not saving it.
They respun the entire story. Apparently Archie is squeezing their hands, responds to his name, opens his eyes, again repeated that this was caused by a tiktok challenge. They think he's going to wake up and get to go home.
And said it all with a straight face.
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but I seriously think Hollie might be a munchie. A few years ago she was in the papers because she had applied ear drops to Archie's eyes causing him painful burns, claiming she had been given the wrong prescription. Either poor Archie has prodigious levels of bad luck or there's something very fucking fishy going on here.
It's not legal to screencap or otherwise reproduce the court footage but dignity for all once again being a good internet detective (if you're reading here you should come and join in July) has shared the time stamp where cardiac arrest was mentioned and confirms Ella is (to nobody's surprise) a big fat liar pants on fire. Again.
Well he's decaying. His soul is gone and she's tending to a mass of meat that isn't her son no matter how much she wants it to be, and honestly it's fucking selfish for her to insist his mangled soul is still housed in a rotting prison rather than having moved on. Lazarus this kid is not.
In my conspiracy a few pages prior I asked how can it be confirmed she was the only person in the house except for her own story. Now she's saying she wasn't even in the house at all.
I now 90% believe he found an open opportunity to do what he wanted to do as opposed to my inclination she mightve been involved.
Not being in the house makes much more sense because as a child you always fear "being caught" doing something you're not supposed to.
Also if I threw a 10lb bag of potatoes off of the second floor landing attached to a banister, the thud would be pretty noticeable. If she made up the story about being at home, it makes her look like a worse mother because my shitty mother once heard me swear outside on a hill 100ft away from my house. To not hear at LEAST 90lb weight dropping in your home as a mother.... I'm judging you. How big is this house? It sounds like average suburuban sized house, not a McMansion.
If we're talking about a polyester belt used for shower robes (for the North Americans) I find it hard to believe that would break his neck. Hangings were seen as gruesome because if you didn't get all the technical details right in order to break the neck, the person would slowly suffocate, writhing and wrangling. Maybe since he's a kid and bones are more brittle but it doesn't seem like they've mentioned significant damage to the neck? Like if he had a neck injury, he'd likely to be paralyzed if he did wake up and no one has mentioned it?
The disturbing fact is Archie may have been strangling for several minutes before succumbing. No average person will ever want to picture the legitimate details of this. A polyester belt that is thick enough to withstand the force of 90lb dead weight and writhing cannot be snapped by human hands. That's not scientifically sound. It had to be cut or torn with an object and ripped by hand.
What we do know as fact is he used a fabric belt tied around a banister and around his neck. The average length of these belts is about 6ft. When he jumped, he had best estimate 4ft between the second floor landing and hanging by his neck. Without snapping his neck, this was unlikely to have killed him immediately. Dogs get trapped on leashes and hang themselves at this length. What kind of fabric was this belt actually? Was it the fluffy robes or a linen/cotton or a silk? Consider how much stretch the fabric has, even if tied tightly to start. Again, no one would think you could "snap" a thick cotton/linen belt. You could "maybe" with a fluffy polyester.
So she was not in the house, or that's the new story at least, and there is no feasible way for her to estimate how long he hung beyond when she left the house and when she returned. For three months she has claimed at least 40 minutes from the last time she saw him. He was not pronounced dead on the scene as he had "signs" of life. To my understanding these were very faint signs of life and to my (not professional) understanding, people can come back without starting to necrotize after 3-5 minutes of "being dead". I'm reminded of people who overdose and technically die for a period of time.
So again, to my understanding, based on the damage and decline, he probably hung, strangling for 10-15 minutes. I'm sure at that point, as most do, he regretted his decision.
Perhaps it does come down to those forty minutes but she needs to prove he only hung for 3 minutes. How can she know if she left for forty and found him in that position? You have to account for that time so I hope she has real proof that says a time frame, otherwise it's illogical to claim 3 minutes unless you saw it happen as you pulled up in the driveway and it took 3 minutes to run inside.
I still, however, 10% feel she has committed a crime that we've not been made aware of yet. Even though the gofundme is kind of bordering on it but GFM by nature is a fraud.
Well I do remember that lady that hung both her kids and tried to claim it was a murder suicide. That the boy hung his sister and then himself like the kid from Jude The Obscure. She was quickly found out. She was also having sex with the dog.
I don't think Hollie killed Archie. As you said before the spoiler, he saw an opportunity. Hollie panicked and started playing fish tale roulette because she didn't want any skeletons popping out of the closet. She's not at all what she's presenting herself to be. Something made that boy want to end his life. She doesn't want anyone to know what caused him to be so depressed because it relates directly back to her.
Well I do remember that lady that hung both her kids and tried to claim it was a murder suicide. That the boy hung his sister and then himself like the kid from Jude The Obscure. She was quickly found out. She was also having sex with the dog.
I don't think Hollie killed Archie. As you said before the spoiler, he saw an opportunity. Hollie panicked and started playing fish tale roulette because she didn't want any skeletons popping out of the closet. She's not at all what she's presenting herself to be. Something made that boy want to end his life. She doesn't want anyone to know what caused him to be so depressed because it relates directly back to her.
I'm not going to pretend to know anything more than the average outsider does. However, my farmer instincts and former fucked-up kid instincts both say that this situation is one giant red flag. Something is off with Hollie and her story. Even without all the fishy details about her past, the fact that her story keeps changing is very weird. Who knows if anything she's said is true?
It does. Just healthy normal boy things! Not corpsey at all! It's just a little light necrosis nothing to worry about.
Another interview. Same old shite. Christian concern have turned the comments off now. Hollie "on top of the world" like her football team just won. Completely delusional and claiming Archie is "responsive" because his blood pressure rises when they bed bath him. I'd imagine that's because lifting his limbs without the proper homeostatic systems working will cause everything to go screwy.
I don't understand how she can go from a court hearing discussing how Archie will die to ... well ... that.
Her minder is there again making sure she keeps to the script.
Hollie keeps telling interviewers that Archie is "stable 99% of the time" I don't think she understands what that means. Stable =/= not in cardiac arrest.
I've been watching the "Pandemic" miniseries on Netflix (it was released in 2020 and is mostly about influenza) and this woman and her unschooled, unvaccinated children show up periodically. I'm surprised she doesn't have any spuds amongst her 5 home-birthed offspring.
Because adoption in the USA is an extremely long and expensive process. Adopting a newborn baby can cost $45,000 - it’s genuinely disturbing how many hurdles there are that don’t priories the child’s safety. Foster-to-adopt is less expensive and a way more difficult process (dealing with the birth family, no adoption is guaranteed etc) I’m not an expert in the topic but I’ve clearly looked into it more than you.
No, they don’t adopt those, because the majority of children in foster care are black and/or have special needs, which includes severe physical or psychological disabilities. Why deal with that mess when you can have a nice, clean, healthy white or white-passing baby?
What the fuck are you talking about? The MAJORITY of kids in foster care in the USA are WHITE. The fact that your very first sentence is so wildly wrong makes me think it’s pointless to even read how retarded the rest is. Getting special needs kids adopted is a huge difficultly, adoptive families of all kinds (not just the Christians you hate so much) don’t want to adopt tard babies. For obvious reasons.
Other good Christians who have adopted children from Africa have subjected those children to extreme abuse, even worse than the physical and sexual abuse they already inflict on their own biological children, as detailed in the Quiverfull threads here on BP (for anyone not familiar with our board).
Lmao. Yes it’s well known that many adopted children face abuse. Do I now need to find a few dozen good Christian families that adopted and treated those adopted children well to have made a good point, by your logic?
Given your example of one politician with a black kid that according to you all the Christians hated and some vague statement about how adopted children get abused but only African black ones and always by Christians, that’s your conclusion? Just use a condom dude.
I came here to look at deluded parents and their half-corpse children but couldn’t ignore the absolute incoherent political diatribe/atheist Reddit-style sperg that went on in this thread. Rate me late, I deserve it, but it was too funny to not highlight.
Well I do remember that lady that hung both her kids and tried to claim it was a murder suicide. That the boy hung his sister and then himself like the kid from Jude The Obscure. She was quickly found out. She was also having sex with the dog.
I don't think Hollie killed Archie. As you said before the spoiler, he saw an opportunity. Hollie panicked and started playing fish tale roulette because she didn't want any skeletons popping out of the closet. She's not at all what she's presenting herself to be. Something made that boy want to end his life. She doesn't want anyone to know what caused him to be so depressed because it relates directly back to her.
