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Archie has got another infection

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The appeal hearing will start at 10am Britbong time in open court. The army are asking supporters to come along but are unhappy that public doesn't mean invite only. Many appeal court hearings are live streamed on YouTube so it may be possible to watch online.

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The delightful Ella Carter created a post with photos of the FB accounts of several people commenting on the D4A page. Some of them included information on their employers so other commenters are now encouraging her to report them to try and get them fired.

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Updates from the Barmy Army.

Archie has got another infection

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The appeal hearing will start at 10am Britbong time in open court. The army are asking supporters to come along but are unhappy that public doesn't mean invite only. Many appeal court hearings are live streamed on YouTube so it may be possible to watch online.

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The delightful Ella Carter created a post with photos of the FB accounts of several people commenting on the D4A page. Some of them included information on their employers so other commenters are now encouraging her to report them to try and get them fired.

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I'm not a neurologist, but I'm a lot closer to being one than Ella Carter will ever be. I like when these middle aged women get obsessed with a poor child who's suffered brain death and they wish to keep him alive for their fandom. And this boiled dumpling of a human being probably thinks she's better than a member of BTS army or Twilight tards, when she's just a worse variant.

Yeah, the nice Christian guy can shit talk and actually point out the foibles of the pig. Anyone who wants to do this to a child and pretends it makes them virtuous deserves all the scorn and derision. Sorry not sorry for an out of character post.
 
Both of us are from the United States. I'm unsure where my friend was when he was being kept in juvenile hall, but if I were to guess, that really ghetto area he stayed in while he was in Houston, Texas. They never did anything to him except shove him into abusive temporary housing consistently.
ETA: That type of situation could've been remedied through an abortion. He's my best friend, so I wish that he didn't have to suffer through that shit that no child being forced into this world should go through. He's doing better now, but it sucks to think about kids (especially profoundly disabled ones) being given up to the state to be fucked over because of our government's sick ideologies.
Ah yeah I've never been to TX but I could see them just sticking foster kids in juvie for lack of better places to put them. Red states like TX aren't exactly known for their robust network of social services for vulnerable children.

Unfortunately I'm sure other red states will just do the same thing (sticking foster kids in juvie) instead of anything that actually helps anyone. Even more seriously disabled ones at higher risk of abuse, not like child abuse prevention is something they give a shit about.
Yeah, the nice Christian guy can shit talk and actually point out the foibles of the pig. Anyone who wants to do this to a child and pretends it makes them virtuous deserves all the scorn and derision. Sorry not sorry for an out of character post.
I think anyone, no matter their religious views, can come together and agree keeping a dead child on life support to grift is grotesque. I'd imagine outside of Hollie's ilk of megachavs most people in bongland think she's fucked.
 
I'm not a neurologist, but I'm a lot closer to being one than Ella Carter will ever be. I like when these middle aged women get obsessed with a poor child who's suffered brain death and they wish to keep him alive for their fandom. And this boiled dumpling of a human being probably thinks she's better than a member of BTS army or Twilight tards, when she's just a worse variant.

Yeah, the nice Christian guy can shit talk and actually point out the foibles of the pig. Anyone who wants to do this to a child and pretends it makes them virtuous deserves all the scorn and derision. Sorry not sorry for an out of character post.
I think it’s actually important for Christian folks at speak up against this kind of shit.
These folks are using Christian funded lawyers and invoking Christianity in their grift.
When decent Christians stay quiet and let these nutters be the only ones outsiders see, we’ll it doesn’t do much for the religion’s reputation.
 
Why in the world does Hollie think this supposed gynecologist is a reliable specialist in the case of her 12 year old male brain dead son? That’s about as far apart in medical specialties as possible. Is Hollie going off the deep end completely?

I think Hollie is just stupid. She doesn’t know what a gynaecologist does, or a neurologist, so she confused the two. Started typing and waited to see what autocorrect would suggest to her.

Likewise, when she said the gynaecologist/neurologist was also the “founder of the hospital”, they had probably introduced themselves to her as the lead doctor in Intensive Care and she garbled it.
 
I think it’s actually important for Christian folks at speak up against this kind of shit.
These folks are using Christian funded lawyers and invoking Christianity in their grift.
When decent Christians stay quiet and let these nutters be the only ones outsiders see, well it doesn’t do much for the religion’s reputation.
no wonder young people are distancing themselves from organized religion more than ever. like, yeah, no shit they're ~straying from the church~ when they look around and see nothing but narcissistic pinheads cosplaying as christians and making a public spectacle of themselves while the sane ones look away and pretend like nothing's happening.
 
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I think it’s actually important for Christian folks at speak up against this kind of shit.
These folks are using Christian funded lawyers and invoking Christianity in their grift.
When decent Christians stay quiet and let these nutters be the only ones outsiders see, we’ll it doesn’t do much for the religion’s reputation.
One exception I know is the Karen Anne Quinlin case in the 70s, whose devout catholic parents had to fight the hospital to be able to turn off her ventilator after becoming a veggie from an OD. The argued prolonging her life on heavy machinery was unnatural and against God's will. It was basically the Terru Shiavo case of its time.
 
One exception I know is the Karen Anne Quinlin case in the 70s, whose devout catholic parents had to fight the hospital to be able to turn off her ventilator after becoming a veggie from an OD. The argued prolonging her life on heavy machinery was unnatural and against God's will. It was basically the Terru Shiavo case of its time.
Oh I’m sure that there are tons of Christians who think that way, but they don’t need to fight for it anymore. They can just quietly say their goodbyes, and let their loved ones go.

I am decidedly not-a-Christian, but it seems to me that a kind way of dealing with this situation would be for a group of Christians to offer to pray for Archie to be cleansed of all sin (including the sin of suicide) so that his soul could enter Heaven.
Like some weird middle ground. “Keep him hooked up for a week while we pray for his soul” or something like that. That way you assure folks that their child is entering heaven and you can just work on guiding the parent to a better life so they can see their kid again one day.

Like, how hard is that theologically speaking?
 
All the people saying that Archie should “open his eyes for mummy” reek of narcissism. It just reads like they view the child as an extension of the mother and not a person in his own right. If I had a (non brain dead) comatose child I’d want them to open their eyes for themselves in the hope that they could recover and live a happy healthy life, not just because I wanted them to. Am I making sense?
 
Oh I’m sure that there are tons of Christians who think that way, but they don’t need to fight for it anymore. They can just quietly say their goodbyes, and let their loved ones go.

I am decidedly not-a-Christian, but it seems to me that a kind way of dealing with this situation would be for a group of Christians to offer to pray for Archie to be cleansed of all sin (including the sin of suicide) so that his soul could enter Heaven.
Like some weird middle ground. “Keep him hooked up for a week while we pray for his soul” or something like that. That way you assure folks that their child is entering heaven and you can just work on guiding the parent to a better life so they can see their kid again one day.

Like, how hard is that theologically speaking?
You wouldn't think it would be hard, but then the Quinlan case as mentioned earlier opened a big can of worms. That poor young woman lived another 10 years after being taken off the ventilator, but was only a body on a bed with no quality of life. Theologically, you have those people who believe in birth until natural death, which means if you medically intervene treatment should not stop until clear signs of death are present. To them, it often means physical decay in those cases.
 
You wouldn't think it would be hard, but then the Quinlan case as mentioned earlier opened a big can of worms. That poor young woman lived another 10 years after being taken off the ventilator, but was only a body on a bed with no quality of life. Theologically, you have those people who believe in birth until natural death, which means if you medically intervene treatment should not stop until clear signs of death are present. To them, it often means physical decay in those cases.
PL but when my grandfather died in the early 90s/late 80s, my mom had to go to court to get him taken off the ventilator. One of the points she argued was that as a staunch, lifelong Catholic, he wouldn't want to be anchored to a rotting body and prolong everyone's pain. But now, I think we're so used to insane lifesaving measures, and we hear so much about the super rare cases when someone has a supposedly unsurvivable injury and pulls through, it's become almost reasonable to expect to keep a braindead kid on a vent.

Getting a living will is cheap, get that shit taken care of and tell your family how to access it, telling them you "wouldn't want to live like that" isn't good enough for a hospital ethics committee if you have that one batshit relative who wants to play Frankenstein.
 
All the people saying that Archie should “open his eyes for mummy” reek of narcissism. It just reads like they view the child as an extension of the mother and not a person in his own right. If I had a (non brain dead) comatose child I’d want them to open their eyes for themselves in the hope that they could recover and live a happy healthy life, not just because I wanted them to. Am I making sense?
The two warring Facebook tribes are bascially people who believe kids are the property of the parents to do what they want with and people who believe the child is a sovereign individual.
 
You wouldn't think it would be hard, but then the Quinlan case as mentioned earlier opened a big can of worms. That poor young woman lived another 10 years after being taken off the ventilator, but was only a body on a bed with no quality of life. Theologically, you have those people who believe in birth until natural death, which means if you medically intervene treatment should not stop until clear signs of death are present. To them, it often means physical decay in those cases.
Ahh this actually answers a question I’ve always had about the meaning of “natural death”. In the US we have butters that will let their kids die of the flu because giving them tylanol and an IV drip is against gods will and praying to Jesus will heal the sick.
And somehow that has to be rectified with this nonsense of keeping a dead kid animated on a bunch of machines.

I always wondered where medical intervention came into play here, and the argument is that once it starts, it shouldn’t stop? That’s actually really terrifying because while I wouldn’t mind being stabilized with a vent or whatever I wouldn’t want to remain on one indefinitely.
PL but when my grandfather died in the early 90s/late 80s, my mom had to go to court to get him taken off the ventilator. One of the points she argued was that as a staunch, lifelong Catholic, he wouldn't want to be anchored to a rotting body and prolong everyone's pain. But now, I think we're so used to insane lifesaving measures, and we hear so much about the super rare cases when someone has a supposedly unsurvivable injury and pulls through, it's become almost reasonable to expect to keep a braindead kid on a vent.

Getting a living will is cheap, get that shit taken care of and tell your family how to access it, telling them you "wouldn't want to live like that" isn't good enough for a hospital ethics committee if you have that one batshit relative who wants to play Frankenstein.
One of the first things I did as an adult, and it’s updated regularly. Nobody ever wants to talk about this stuff but I refuse to live like a potato!
 
Getting a living will is cheap, get that shit taken care of and tell your family how to access it, telling them you "wouldn't want to live like that" isn't good enough for a hospital ethics committee if you have that one batshit relative who wants to play Frankenstein.
Dead people don't sue, so even a living will isn't 100%.

They're a great help, however, when you have 3/4 of the kids on board with Mom's wishes and the crazy daughter flies in from NY or CA. Instead of reopening all the sad, hard decisions and throwing on decades of family drama, the living will/advance directive says in black and white: no, we know "what Mom would want," because she wrote it down.

If 3/4 of the kids are daughters from California and only one of the kids is sadly pointing at the living will, sorry, Mom, you're getting a PEG.
 
This entire thread makes a great case for why forced sterilization isnt a bad thing.
People who shit out one tard baby, are warned they are dysgenic abominations and any further attempt to breed will be as bad if not worse (looking at you Gwen) and continue regardless.
 
Dead people don't sue, so even a living will isn't 100%.

They're a great help, however, when you have 3/4 of the kids on board with Mom's wishes and the crazy daughter flies in from NY or CA. Instead of reopening all the sad, hard decisions and throwing on decades of family drama, the living will/advance directive says in black and white: no, we know "what Mom would want," because she wrote it down.

If 3/4 of the kids are daughters from California and only one of the kids is sadly pointing at the living will, sorry, Mom, you're getting a PEG.
Can you grant power of attorney to someone in your living will? If I'm in a vegetative state, etc, this guy pulls the cord
 
I know prior to Roe the US had similar facilities that I'm sure were also hotbeds of abuse. "Homes for unwed mothers" was the euphemism, and girls who got knocked up out of wedlock used to get shipped off to them so the rest of society could pretend no one had sex before marriage.

Given that they've been shuttered for decades I assume most unwanted kids born as a result of new bans in red states will just end up in foster care after being removed from some horrorshow situation. That's generally what happens to unwanted kids in burgerland.
The Boothe Homes, run by the Salvation Army, were designed for homeless pregnant women of any age; minors had to go to school, which they provided, and AFAIK, at least towards the end, they could keep their babies if they wanted. The Boothe organization also sponsored a school for pregnant and parenting teens in my hometown until the mid 1980s, when it was fused with the public school district. This school had the same general curriculum as the regular schools, and provided free child care; some people wondered if married girls could go there, and the answer was yes.

However, some of them WERE nightmares. I read a book by a Space Shuttle astronaut whose wife, before he met her, was subjected to this. At 19, in the mid 1960s, she got pregnant, and she and the father wanted to get married but her parents wouldn't allow it because their state required parental permission before age 21. (His parents would have.) She was shipped off to a "maternity home" that was out in the middle of nowhere, and the girls "earned their keep" by being used as slave labor at a bottom-of-the-barrel nursing home, and keeping the baby was not an option, either. (I suspect they were sold, which is another story.) The women were not allowed to send or receive mail or phone calls, nor were they allowed to have visitors. When she returned "home", she and the father, who stayed faithful to her because he loved her, tried to re-establish their relationship, but they just couldn't.

To this day, there are homes, usually Christian-oriented, for homeless pregnant women. I don't have a problem with that, as long as they don't force religion on them, and give them an option about keeping their babies. My old town had such a place; women who didn't have a HS diploma or GED had to go to school, and this place did provide transitional housing for women who kept their babies. Bible study was available, but they were not required to attend, or penalized if they didn't. Many of them were fleeing domestic violence and were more comfortable going there. I remember a story in the newspaper about an elderly person who had died, and left their automobile and the mobile home they lived in and its furnishings to this organization, for them to do as they wished with them. In this case, they were used for someone in the transitional program.
 
Can you grant power of attorney to someone in your living will? If I'm in a vegetative state, etc, this guy pulls the cord
Good. I'd just check that everything you've done fits your state's requirements. The terms often get used interchangeably, but "living will" is a version of advance directive that applies to terminal conditions. You may end up needing a broader advance directive that'll cover things like PVS and dementia, you may want to find a backup in case your medical PoA isn't available when needed, and there may be specific requirements about how and by whom it's witnessed. It's still pretty easy to find a fill-in-the-blanks form (or one that can be edited a tiny bit).

If you're picking friends to be your medical PoA because you know that your NoK would be predisposed to go against your wishes, it'd still be helpful to talk to your NoK about it so they're not blindsided. The idea is do work now so that if hard decisions have to be made, it's easier on the people left behind to enact your chosen directives.

(And you can feel out your close family for what they'd want done, so that you're ready if the situation is reversed, and everyone can ~engage in a dialogue~ and learn about each others' wishes.

n.b. do not surprise everyone with Advance Directive worksheets at Thanksgiving.)
 
To this day, there are homes, usually Christian-oriented, for homeless pregnant women. I don't have a problem with that, as long as they don't force religion on them, and give them an option about keeping their babies. My old town had such a place; women who didn't have a HS diploma or GED had to go to school, and this place did provide transitional housing for women who kept their babies. Bible study was available, but they were not required to attend, or penalized if they didn't. Many of them were fleeing domestic violence and were more comfortable going there. I remember a story in the newspaper about an elderly person who had died, and left their automobile and the mobile home they lived in and its furnishings to this organization, for them to do as they wished with them. In this case, they were used for someone in the transitional program.
Yeah I don't think faith-based programs in and of themselves are bad, it's just if they're evangelical they need to be upfront about it, as well as what services they do and don't provide.

Shit if CPCs were open about not being actual clinics&being religion linked, they wouldn't really be an issue IMO since there will always be women who want to keep pregnancies, but need supplies/education/etc.
Can you grant power of attorney to someone in your living will? If I'm in a vegetative state, etc, this guy pulls the cord
I think so, my friend's step-dad who went into a coma related to COVID had his brother authorized to pull the plug (which he did since if he woke up there was like a 90% chance he'd have severe brain damage or some shit). He was also a cop though, so I'm sure he had it all written down before the pandemic and shit.
 
Good. I'd just check that everything you've done fits your state's requirements. The terms often get used interchangeably, but "living will" is a version of advance directive that applies to terminal conditions. You may end up needing a broader advance directive that'll cover things like PVS and dementia, you may want to find a backup in case your medical PoA isn't available when needed, and there may be specific requirements about how and by whom it's witnessed. It's still pretty easy to find a fill-in-the-blanks form (or one that can be edited a tiny bit).

If you're picking friends to be your medical PoA because you know that your NoK would be predisposed to go against your wishes, it'd still be helpful to talk to your NoK about it so they're not blindsided. The idea is do work now so that if hard decisions have to be made, it's easier on the people left behind to enact your chosen directives.

(And you can feel out your close family for what they'd want done, so that you're ready if the situation is reversed, and everyone can ~engage in a dialogue~ and learn about each others' wishes.

n.b. do not surprise everyone with Advance Directive worksheets at Thanksgiving.)
Aw jeepers! We've recently had to arrange a few funerals, will arrange another within the next few months, so the topic's come up a lot and we've been airing out our wishes and such, so getting them to finalize it online should be easy enough if I spend the 4th nagging and nagging and nagging. Thanks for the info! Reading about these details now, and realizing that I'm going to have to redo my own wishes.
 
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