🎭 Dramacow Kimberly Marie Mirro / Ana / Anavoir / Anafrills / Anarchofrills - Destiny's stalker and purveyor of subclinical psychology diagnoses and potentially a killer of client(s). Usually feels cute and might do a murder suicide later, idk

[Courtfire]

Ana sent me an email asking "what would happen if I dmca'd you", just a head's up.

What would happen? Do you comply with DMCAs here?

We could just move all the clips off-site if it's causing issues, use streamable links or Odysee and counter all her claims, easy.

 

[Spunt]

The stream highlights are posted here for the purposes of criticism and mockery (mostly mockery). They're protected under fair use, so Nool can just reject the takedown and she'd have to sue.

AFAIK nobody has attempted to sue at that point except Russell Greer, and that didn't go so well for him.

 

[Null]

What would happen? Do you comply with DMCAs here?

>DO YOU COMPLY
american company, yes, I take them seriously. I don't know why people assume I just ignore them by magical principle of because I want to.

I wrote a long reply because I felt like it. There's some typos but it's legible.

I noticed you opted not to link the thread or post they were attached to. I've gone ahead and found it.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kimbe...-anafrills-anarchofrills.118753/post-12105373

In general I'd be hesitant to defend a full hour long archive unless the context is particularly persuasive. Fortunately for me, the user Don.Apple did a very good job at providing context. His post is very long, has paragraphs of explanation, provides the full archives and then smaller clips from it.

Compare this to what would probably be considered an infringing use: a fan of a popular vtuber posts a Patreon-only stream in the Virtual YouTubers thread with a message like, "here's wee-chan's latest stream!!".

The four pillars of fair use are outlined here: https://copyright.columbia.edu/basics/fair-use.html

1. Purpose and Character of the Use. Derision and ridicule are more strongly protected than other forms of speech, believe it or not.

2. Nature of the Copyrighted Work. Compare what you're looking at vs. what is ordinarily protected by copyright. Does turning on the camera and doing a stream for 2 hours amount to the same product as a 2 hour long feature film? Absolutely not, and a use is evaluated with that in mind.

3. The Amount of the Portion Used. This is not in our favor because all of its used. It's basically impossible to DMCA a 1 minute long clip, but a full copy is easier.

4. The Effect of the use on the Potential Market or Value of the Work.

This is the big one. If the use is a full copy but it is of something protected by paywall (movies), then the market is negative impacted. If I take your vtuber design and make a figurine out of it, then that is also copyright infringement because you reserve the right to exploit your creative property in that way. The impact on your property is a major consideration in the copyright court.

Saying "I turned on my webcam and started crying for 2 hours so this infringes my rights to archive it" is not as persuasive as "I spent 90 million dollars making this 2 hour long movie to sell tickets to see it and they're hosting it for free".


Also, as far as copyright goes, if I choose to ignore your DMCA (and I will), you have to actually prove damages to win damages. Even if it's found not to be fair use, you have to prove that the infringement hurt you in some way to be awarded anything. Movies can do this quite easily, but since your livestreams make money through live superchats and you make nothing off the archive, then there are no damages.

Punitive damages are awarded only when the copyright infringement is deliberate and no reasonable person could have considered it fair use (i.e. pirate copies of movies). I, obviously, have very good reason to believe this is fair use.


I like talking about copyright so that's why I wrote this email. I'm not interested in hearing a refutation of my points; you asked me and I have given you an answer. If you consult an attorney and he tells you I'm wrong, remember that he gets paid regardless of if you win. Taking a copyright claim to federal court will cost about $75,000.

Cheers,
Josh

 

[BruceyBoy]

"What would happen?" Sounds like she's moving on from destiny and has a bit of a thing for dear leader.

 

[Hot Dog]

Ana is one of those girls who's whole personality revolves around being mentally ill and uses her psych background to justify her actions while trashing others. Avoid people like this at all cost because their MO is dragging everyone down who comes in their orbit until they get what they want, typically attention and sympathy until they get bored and move on to the next target.

 

[Courtfire]

Here is Kimi's VOD from today: 2022-06-10 Anavoir - Kimi is back after giving away her stream key(LIE), took 4 days

She also streamed on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSjohtVCTjA
Archived proof, URL matches

Kimi is a Twitch partner, streaming on YouTube is breaking Twitch ToS and often results in bans and termination of partnership. She's probably just following her one-night-stand Destiny to YouTube, it's true love!
Or she wants her Twitch account to get banned so she can cry about it on her YouTube stream and farm views by playing victim, it's a tried and true tactic of the stalker-barbie.

She lied about giving away the account to her mysterious "real life friend". Caught in yet another lie, very uncharacteristic.

Probably another made-up person, like all the Twitch streamers who believe and support her.

TONS of streamers believe her but last time I counted I didn't get past 0, maybe I missed a few?

 

[Carpe Jugulum]

I just stumbled on this and…wow. Awesome work.

Got a feeling that this is gunna be the wildest ride. Maybe one day she can aspire to be the female version of the Gunt.

 

[norbo]

"What would happen?" Sounds like she's moving on from destiny and has a bit of a thing for dear leader.

Feeder in chief may have finally met the one.

Hold on. Why would Ana DMCA the content? We're just trying to help a victim of abuse get her story out there!

 

[Null]

@Anavoir registered with an email address that is posted as her official contact email, so I've verified her account and unthreadbanned her.

 

[Anavoir]

@Anavoir registered with an email address that is posted as her official contact email, so I've verified her account and unthreadbanned her.

Thanks, Null.

Courtfire: It wasn't a lie. I gave my stream key away. But I couldn't resist and went back in my account and changed it again to stream. I didn't give my pw away.

 

[norbo]

Courtfire: It wasn't a lie. I gave my stream key away. But I couldn't resist and went back in my account and changed it again to stream. I didn't give my pw away.

You popping back into twitch then? Also, the deal you made with your viewer ultimately was to give away the password to someone you know. Not the stream key.

Initially the conversation revolved around the stream key but it developed into the password once they all realized that wouldn't remotely stop you. You had told them you were going to give away the password for the account.

Also look at null being such a sweetie. He even has you as a "twitch streamer"

It looks like she gave away her Twitch account password

"for the pw change and giving over the account"

"It's ok. I already did it."

Also if you want to tag someone or address someone, Ana, just @ them. Alternatively use the reply or quote button.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

I will be nice and give honest advice. Kimi get the fuck off the internet if it is so traumatic for you even if I take everything you claim at face value this martyring yourself over drama and having a right to be heard is not the hill to die on. You are just keeping this shit going by sperging out on streams that people MUST believe you and your experience was VALID. Reality will never be the way you want it to be so just stop going over this publicly and move the hell on already.

Because at some point this goes from ‘fighting for your truth’ to ‘masochistic fetish’.

 

[Doomer]

I will be nice and give honest advice. Kimi get the fuck off the internet if it is so traumatic for you even if I take everything you claim at face value this martyring yourself over drama and having a right to be heard is not the hill to die on. You are just keeping this shit going by sperging out on streams that people MUST believe you and your experience was VALID. Reality will never be the way you want it to be so just stop going over this publicly and move the hell on already.

Because at some point this goes from ‘fighting for your truth’ to ‘masochistic fetish’.

The effort is commendable but don't bother giving any honest advice to this retard. If she had any genuine interest in improving her clusterfuck of an existence, even someone as stupid as her would have figured it out by now. She revels in being the psychotic malingerer leech to whoever will let her worm her way in. She has no interest in changing because she preys on the good faith of others. She gets off on being a vampire to simps.

 

[Courtfire]

Courtfire: It wasn't a lie. I gave my stream key away. But I couldn't resist and went back in my account and changed it again to stream. I didn't give my pw away.

Hi Kimi! Why are you still lying about your age?

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

The effort is commendable but don't bother giving any honest advice to this retard. If she had any genuine interest in improving her clusterfuck of an existence, even someone as stupid as her would have figured it out by now. She revels in being the psychotic malingerer leech to whoever will let her worm her way in. She has no interest in changing because she preys on the good faith of others. She gets off on being a vampire to simps.

Yeah I know she does likely from coddling by parents but I am an eternal optimist.

 

[BruceyBoy]

About bloody time. It's always more fun when the schizo's engage with the thread.

FYI, Null is heaps taller than desTiny, a way more receptive target for your affections imo

 

[Anavoir]

Well, I’ll be a dick sucked by a dumbshit.

Looks like Kimi was wrong about the Depp case!

(2022-05-06)
1 KF depp clip.mp4

What a complete turn of events that shocks absolutely no one.

Newsflash for you, Kimi: in the real world, your feelings don't matter.

The only things that matter are cold hard facts, and the truth. Not how you feel about them.

And unfortunately for you, almost exactly like Amber Heard, the facts show that you are a stalking, manipulative liar that has slandered, harassed and emotionally abused Destiny for almost TWO YEARS, using your feelings as a weapon when you became upset he didn't fall in love with you after fucking once.

This is why no one believes you.

The world doesn't owe you empathy. You're not entitled to it, and you can't cry calling everyone abusive psychopaths when they don't give it to you.

Anyway, I'm still doing my write-up, but it's going to take a while now. Unlike dear Kimi, I have actual responsibilities and rent to pay without rich parents doing it for me. I'm going to be real busy with work for the next couple months so unfortunately I can't be a full-time Kimstorian, but I still want to get an A+ in my lolcow homework. I'm sure I can drop it before Destiny drops the Vaush manifesto (COPIUM)

1. I didn't support Amber Heard, but nice attempt at being slimy here and taking only a few seconds clip to make it appear that way instead of the nuanced take I had. I was explaining one perspective of abuse from a coercive control framework and how Dr. Hughes was coming to her conclusions since people were attacking her as illegitimate when she absolutely is qualified and well-read on IPV.

2. The facts do not support what Waffles or Destiny claimed. You're writing your own fanfiction here.

Those Instagram DMs show that I was very scared of him since I was sent screenshots of him and Mel (I have nothing against her) talking about using dgg to try to get me fired from any future career. I thought he was vindictive enough to try to destroy my life and I was trying to apologize and make peace hoping he'd also stop saying I'm crazy etc on his stream (I was sent plenty of clips of this crap). He was slandering me on his huge platform as he was accusing me of "diagnosing him" which I'd never done. Subclinical Narcissism =/= clinical Narcissism (NPD)
This was an extremely stressful thing to deal with. I had no way of publicly countering his slander since my platform at the time was TINY and I got like 25 viewers.

3. He didn't want to end things, we would have fights and not talk for some months. After the Zherka panel when he DID break things off, it was pretty mutual at that point. Ending a relationship/friendship is NOT abuse or mistreatment and that wouldn't cause me to feel mistreated.

I wouldn't have been so distraught if that had been it. But no.

What WAS mistreatment was that the very next day he went on to falsely accuse me of stalking after the Zherka panel. I posted a multitude of DMs that showed he'd been in frequent, regular, and willful contact with me for months. Sexting and all that (which I cannot show because that would violate his privacy)


4. I did not try to define what the relationship was for Destiny. He specified on multiple occasions that it was more than a hookup. We had many talks and agreed that there was some emotional obligation on both of our parts. There was mutual emotional intimacy. Most people, including me, consider that a kind of dating dynamic. He wanted to keep it labeled as 'friends'. Downplaying and minimizing this is manipulative.

 

[norbo]

I did not try to define what the relationship was for Destiny.

Kimberly, you just did this.

"He and I have the same definition of what dating is" though you also say he will say it isn't his threshold for what dating is. On you stream from 05-11-22, you go over the definition of a relationship in order to take your dogshit reading comprehension to the point you can classify what you had with him as an intimate relationship.

Where they explicitly talk about what this constitutes. You REALLY push to say it was dating. Dating requires consent from both people to be considered dating. If you want me to send you clips I'll do it but this is so pathetic.

 

[Anavoir]

You popping back into twitch then? Also, the deal you made with your viewer ultimately was to give away the password to someone you know. Not the stream key.

Initially the conversation revolved around the stream key but it developed into the password once they all realized that wouldn't remotely stop you. You had told them you were going to give away the password for the account.

Also look at null being such a sweetie. He even has you as a "twitch streamer"



"for the pw change and giving over the account"

"It's ok. I already did it."

Also if you want to tag someone or address someone, Ana, just @ them. Alternatively use the reply or quote button.

No, still trying to stay away from streaming.

Yeah I didn't elaborate with that guy what exact steps I took to give away my account (he's not a friend) but I did with my mods/friends. It wasn't just the stream key.

Also: How am I revising the Waffles history when she first came into my stream during the drama?? And then when Dest did that huge 2 hour stream, she was there for me and introduced me to Merl and had him mod for me and did a LOT to gain my trust.
I don't think that was for clout but she'd been deceptive with me and I never knew that for years prior to that she had been trying to be friendly with Destiny

 

[Courtfire]

Waffles history when she first came into my stream during the drama

That's a lie, Waffles was in clips on your channel that were made before the drama started. Your kid act only works on your faggy symps, we're not here to play princess with you. UwU

Kimberly Marie Mirro, why do you keep lying about your age? You are 33 in 10 days, not 29. You are a liar, isn't lying immoral Kimi? Why are you lying?