🐱 Comics making trans jokes 'could be criminalised' under new strategy, barrister warns

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Campaigners fear a new hate crime strategy could see comedians who make jokes about transgender issues hauled in front of a judge.

A barrister warned telling jokes about trans people, like Ricky Gervais in his most recent show, could be criminalised if a new Home Office plan is put in place.

Priti Patel's department dismissed the claims and said it will protect free speech.

Its new strategy is due to be published shortly, with a Home Office minister saying it will "set out steps to increase the reporting of all forms of hate crime – including hate crimes targeting sexual orientation or transgender identity".

They will see "perpetrators" accused of "non crime hate incidents" [NCHIs], which are recorded on police systems. It comes after the Court of Appeal ruled that College of Policing guidance telling forces to record incidents believed to be 'motivated by a hostility or prejudice against a person' as NCHIs violates the European Convention on Human Rights.

But Sarah Phillimore, a barrister from Fair Cop, a group describing itself as a "gender critical" organisation of lawyers, police officers and writers, said: "It is astonishing that legislators are planning to expand the discredited and unlawful practice of recording non-crime hate incidents [NCHIs]."

She told MailOnline that the strategy could put police on the wrong side of the law, saying: "Police forces that record complaints against comedians - or any other lawful speech - as NCHIs will be piling illegality upon illegality.

"They will then find themselves in court with no legitimate defence. This quixotic strategy oozes arrogance, as if the law does not apply if you're fighting for 'the right side of history'.

"But how can you be on the right side of history if you're repeatedly on the wrong side of the law?"

A Home Office spokesperson hit back: "These claims are completely wrong - there are no plans to expand recording of non-crime hate incidents, nor will we criminalise comedians or introduce a complaint scheme. Free speech is a fundamental right and we will always protect it.

"Our approach will ensure the police are focussing their resource on serious and harmful hate crimes, such as violent assaults and attacks on places of worship."

Ricky Gervais' most recent show, Supernature, triggered a row over jokes about trans people.

In the show, Mr Gervais said: "Oh, women. Not all women, I mean the old-fashioned ones. The old-fashioned women, the ones with wombs. Those f****** dinosaurs.

"I love the new women. They're great, aren't they? The new ones we've been seeing lately. The ones with beards and c***s. They're as good as gold, I love them.

"And now the old-fashioned ones say, 'Oh, they want to use our toilets.' 'Why shouldn't they use your toilets?' 'For ladies.' 'They are ladies - look at their pronouns! What about this person isn't a lady?' 'Well, his penis.' 'Her penis, you f****** bigot!' 'What if he rapes me?' 'What if she rapes you, you fucking TERF w****?'"

He said at the end of the show: "Full disclosure: in real life of course I support trans rights. I support all human rights, and trans rights are human rights.

"Live your best life. Use your preferred pronouns. Be the gender that you feel you are. But meet me halfway, ladies. Lose the c***. That's all I'm saying."

Some branded the comedian a "coward" who is "making cheap, nasty stereotypes out of a minority group" while others defended the jokes as funny.

Jokes about trans issues and people have taken centre stage thanks to an ongoing row involving US comedian Dave Chapelle.

He triggered controversy with his show The Closer, in which he said "gender is a fact" and supported Harry Potter author JK Rowling, who has also attracted criticism for her comments about sex.
 
This won't get passed, the tide has turned.
There's way too much backlash against troons in the UK, "What is a woman?" is now a normie meme here, it's not 2018 anymore.
The time to do this came and went.

Also, if this passes, jokes about men or Caucasians or heterosexuals will become a criminal offense as well and I'll be taking full advantage of that, people will get fined and arrested.
 
If you think this is going to be used to make things better, you haven't been paying attention.

A decade ago, sure. Maybe five years ago, even. Now though, the tide has turned on this "institutionalised X-ism" bullshit. The remaining step requires medicine, government, mass media and sports to now hold hands and all publish their research findings at once, to mimimise the backlash on individuals. It's almost certainly why they delayed publishing the Census yet again, and why LBQT+ have been acting even more maniacally than usual this last month, disappointed to the point of freaking out at an advanced copy. Reading between the lines of their PR scramble, public support has dropped below 18% for their nonsense, down from 60%+ a decade ago. That's exactly the sort of data Westminster needs to confidently close the door on their lobby groups.
 
A decade ago, sure. Maybe five years ago, even. Now though, the tide has turned on this "institutionalised X-ism" bullshit. The remaining step requires medicine, government, mass media and sports to now hold hands and all publish their research findings at once, to mimimise the backlash on individuals. It's almost certainly why they delayed publishing the Census yet again, and why LBQT+ have been acting even more maniacally than usual this last month, disappointed to the point of freaking out at an advanced copy. Reading between the lines of their PR scramble, public support has dropped below 18% for their nonsense, down from 60%+ a decade ago. That's exactly the sort of data Westminster needs to confidently close the door on their lobby groups.
Public opinion doesn't matter.

If TPTB really want something, they make sure all major parties agree, so you can't vote around it. See - unlimited immigration. No one wanted it, at least no one normal who isn't a fat cat. Doesn't matter. Party donors are more important than voters.

Also, ofc, Westminster is FULL of degenerate perverts. They'll not back down.
 
Public opinion doesn't matter.

If TPTB really want something, they make sure all major parties agree, so you can't vote around it. See - unlimited immigration. No one wanted it, at least no one normal who isn't a fat cat. Doesn't matter. Party donors are more important than voters.

Also, ofc, Westminster is FULL of degenerate perverts. They'll not back down.
Yeah. The meme of 'both sides are the same' is kinda true in the USA. It's 100% literally true in the UK. Has been ever since Blair took power, ensured we were ruled by fiat, and empowered the civil service into a politicised machine. It's purely, absolutely and 100% about nothing but cash money. Labour is money, Cons are money. They have the exact same policies between them, the exact same people between them, and they all hold absolute contempt for the people outside the London machine.
 
Carlin was as bad a lefty fag as they all are. He loved the policies that caused this shit. Fuck Carlin.
He was that, but fuck me if he hadn't lost his shit when someone would force him to speak "properly" and say "nice" jokes.
His whole game was about him saying whatever the fuck he wanted to say.
Because of his 7 dirty words, this censorship bullshit went to the Supreme Court where Carlin's side won.
I don't believe for one second he would have caved to some troons, even if he was a leftoid.
 
He was that, but fuck me if he hadn't lost his shit when someone would force him to speak "properly" and say "nice" jokes.
His whole game was about him saying whatever the fuck he wanted to say.
Because of his 7 dirty words, this censorship bullshit went to the Supreme Court where Carlin's side won.
I don't believe for one second he would have caved to some troons, even if he was a leftoid.
He wouldn't have caved for sure. But he'd have done the exact same thing that John Cleese did. "W-wha! How could this have happened, what's going on! Why can't anyone take a jooooookkkkeeee anymore guys!"

Because of you! You fuck! The reason no one can take a joke anymore is because it was constant, unrelenting, pissy little whingey snips. Carlin, and Cleese, and Gervais, and every other 'lemme just be maaaaannn' style comics came about in the fun little bubble where the people in power didn't take themselves that seriously, and wouldn't stomp you flat socially and economically for laughing at them. Hell, often times they laughed with you, at themselves. But it was the exact same bubble that these comedians help make that allowed for the insane faggotry we've got now. I guaran-fucking-tee you, if Carlin had been stabbed to death on stage when he made one of his million 'white people so dumb' jokes, the anti white shit would have cooled right down. It's infuriating, I feel like a hoe with sand in her vagina every time someone gets up and goes 'Oh man, X would have hated this!' because more often than not, they helped make this. They just didn't have the decency to live through hell-world with us.

Ahem.

Carlin is pretty funny though, and he did play a small role on getting people to untighten their arseholes on certain issues, which is nice. No-no words are a retarded concept.
 
This won't get passed, the tide has turned.
There's way too much backlash against troons in the UK, "What is a woman?" is now a normie meme here, it's not 2018 anymore.
The time to do this came and went.

Also, if this passes, jokes about men or Caucasians or heterosexuals will become a criminal offense as well and I'll be taking full advantage of that, people will get fined and arrested.
I admire your optimism. It will be up to TPTB which thought crimes get prosecuted and which do not: Look at Count Dankula.
 
He wouldn't have caved for sure. But he'd have done the exact same thing that John Cleese did. "W-wha! How could this have happened, what's going on! Why can't anyone take a jooooookkkkeeee anymore guys!"
No way.
John Cleese is a bong fag with no spine.
Carlin was a New York crazy lunatic who reveled in rebellion since he was a kid. Considering troons are a status quo these days, something Carlin always hated, and considering troons demand total censorship, which Cralin hated even more, and considering that these fucks grew out of leftist ideology that Carlin espoused while being a rebel in his time, if he had lived long enough, Carlin would have started comiting terrorism on troons, if nothing else lol
Probably would have a kiwi account an post in his own thread which he himself would have created for the lulz
Because of you! You fuck! The reason no one can take a joke anymore is because it was constant, unrelenting, pissy little whingey snips. Carlin, and Cleese, and Gervais, and every other 'lemme just be maaaaannn' style comics came about in the fun little bubble where the people in power didn't take themselves that seriously, and wouldn't stomp you flat socially and economically for laughing at them. Hell, often times they laughed with you, at themselves. But it was the exact same bubble that these comedians help make that allowed for the insane faggotry we've got now. I guaran-fucking-tee you, if Carlin had been stabbed to death on stage when he made one of his million 'white people so dumb' jokes, the anti white shit would have cooled right down. It's infuriating, I feel like a hoe with sand in her vagina every time someone gets up and goes 'Oh man, X would have hated this!' because more often than not, they helped make this. They just didn't have the decency to live through hell-world with us.
Nice rant.
A little long winded though, which makes it very Carlin-esque.
Carlin is pretty funny though, and he did play a small role on getting people to untighten their arseholes on certain issues, which is nice. No-no words are a retarded concept.
Everyone likes a rebel.
First big commedian to go outright on the troots, betting his life and acreer on it, could make it or break it.
 
I Bongland there are literally only two ways to go if you are a women

1 - get raped by durka durkas
2 - get raped by troons

Also in both instances the police will arrest you for a hate crime if you complain about being raped.
 
Public opinion doesn't matter.

If TPTB really want something, they make sure all major parties agree, so you can't vote around it. See - unlimited immigration. No one wanted it, at least no one normal who isn't a fat cat. Doesn't matter. Party donors are more important than voters.

Also, ofc, Westminster is FULL of degenerate perverts. They'll not back down.

The difference between reverse outsourcing cheap labour via immigration and "Institutional Transphobia" is that the latter is a direct attack on Whitehall and Westminster, as well as the police, NHS etc. It makes them look bad when bullshit reports claim "transphobic hate crimes have incresed 2000% in one year" when in reality it's concerned citizens replying in a negative way to that one tweet introducing the new tranny policeman, or decrying another hulking bloke winning some women's borefest sporting event. Due to the nebulous nature of what constitues a "hate crime" dissenting online over handing a mentally ill man the authority to arrest people is on par with firebombing a mosque as things currently stand. The government can't do much until they get the nod from the public that telling these grifters to fuck off won't come round to bite them in the arse at the ballot box. This data needs to be collated in a formal manner, and be legally unassailable. Hence the point-blank "Are you a tranny?" question on the census.

In the last two years we've had "preliminary findings" published by Sports & Culture indicating a mere 1 in 50 supports trannies in girl sports, the GMC sheepishly pull the plug on tranny SRS due to an accounting error in Survival Curves for Best Practice (full report publishing date pushed back yet again...) at least two dozen High Court claims by ex-tranny child victims of the Tavistock Paeditric Clinic, and all manner of criminals working their ticket using transitioning as an excuse to the point where it's cutting into private prisons profit margins, among other things. The Westminster Bubble is very real, yet bursts just as easily as it is inflated, and all the trannies ever had was "Institutional Transphobia" to work with in the first place. "Institutional Racism" died at Rotherham, with the man who coined the phrase decrying its abuse. All of this is before we begin to factor in the feminist lobby who did not take the trannies using their own tactics against them well at all.

The 2020s are not going to be the free ride the 10s were for tranny grifters here in Blighty, which is why so many of them have fled overseas to the likes of New Zealand. The death throes of the Tranny Cult are going to be overly-dramatic and tend towards the extreme, yet their entire MO has been so ridiculously high pitched we won't notice much change. The rush to cram trannies into TV shows before the Official Policies change is palpable, for instance. The results will be as disaterous on viewing figures as ever, of course, not that they care. It's exactly that bullheaded arrogance that dug their own am hole.
 
A Home Office spokesperson hit back: "These claims are completely wrong - there are no plans to expand recording of non-crime hate incidents, nor will we criminalise comedians or introduce a complaint scheme. Free speech is a fundamental right and we will always protect it.

Honestly I'm really surprised to hear a brit official say speech is a fundamental right... a few years ago they would have just said "hate speech isn't free speech" or "this isn't america" or "we don't have a tradition of unlimited free speech unlike some countries we could mention.".
I feel like if they're on the defensive about this, and feel compelled to describe free speech as a positive value, maybe that's progress?
 
'Her penis, you f****** bigot!' 'What if he rapes me?' 'What if she rapes you, you fucking TERF w****?'"
Why is one 'fucking' uncensored but the others are? And what is the unmentionable w word?
 
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