Wuhan Coronavirus / COVID-19 Thread 2: Booster Shot - Resume all Corona sperging here.

What would you do if you were a doctor with a patient in the ER 11 days into Covid?
I'm not a doctor, but I'm going to try my best to describe what's going on here, based on my digs.

Ideally, early and proactive outpatient treatment should begin the very moment that symptoms appear. But let's presume that the subject is in poor health and has been symptomatic for over a week, like in your scenario. The onset of COVID-19 hyperinflammation is when someone is about 8 to 11 days post-symptomatic, or about two weeks after initial exposure. Some come into the ER feeling a little funny, with O2 sat around 93%. Others have their lips turning blue and their SpO2 is in the area of 77% and dropping rapidly. When they take their blood and start doing tests, they see an exhausted adaptive immune system and over-activated innate immune system (lymphopenia and neutrophilia) coupled with elevated inflammatory and oxidative markers, but also signs of abnormal clotting. Some older patients with pre-existing clotting disorders come into the ER with COVID-19 and their D-dimer is like 2,000 to 20,000 ng/ml. Twenty-goddamn thousand. Yes, COVID-19 can cause blood clots bad enough to trigger strokes, heart attacks, PE, and even cut off blood supply to the extremities, in some instances.

The patient is beginning to show the clinical signs of severe viral sepsis and endothelial dysfunction, trending towards ARDS, respiratory failure, and death. Normally, when someone comes into the hospital with bacterial sepsis, the standard treatment is antibiotics, but COVID-19 sepsis is not like bacterial sepsis. The causative agent is a virus that has profoundly deranged many key biochemical pathways in the body, suppressing endogenous antioxidant enzyme activity and directly activating the innate immune system. As a result, the patient's immune system is now attacking their body with an over-exuberant immune response.

By this point, the virus is already gone, so antivirals don't work. If I intubate the patient and pump them full of corticosteroids, as appears to be customary with COVID-19, I risk causing additional oxidative damage to their lungs (a.k.a. VILI). The ROS would then trigger steroid insensitivity by attacking glucocorticoid receptors, leading to steroid rebound and more inflammatory damage. And yet, the patient is critically deoxygenated and it's only a matter of time before they're a brain dead vegetable. Also, the entire time, I will be fighting an uphill battle of coagulopathy by futilely using anticoagulants, alternating between too little and too much, risking clots one moment, hemorrhages the next.

That's how COVID-19 patients are currently treated.

If it were my choice, I would postpone invasive ventilation as long as possible, and provide a cocktail of:
  • Vitamin D (antioxidant and calcium moderator; never hurts to try, and most people are deficient anyway)
  • Intravenous NAC and glycine (profoundly antioxidant)
  • Intravenous Vitamin C (antioxidant)
  • Selenium (antioxidant)
  • Melatonin (anti-inflammatory and antioxidant)
  • Methylene blue (antioxidant)
  • Inhaled Budesonide (anti-inflammatory)
  • Inhaled Montelukast (antioxidant)
  • Colchicine (antioxidant)
  • Amlodipine (antioxidant)
  • Deferoxamine (iron chelator)
  • Fluvoxamine (SSRI that's also an antioxidant)
  • Famotidine (antihistamine that's also an antioxidant)
  • Diphenhydramine (antihistamine that's also an antioxidant)
  • Quercetin, Resveratrol, and Apocynin (more antioxidants)
  • Aspirin (mild anticoagulant)
If that fails to improve the patient's condition and they're still deoxygenating, then intubate and go in with dexamethasone, while continuing to provide antioxidants as an adjunct therapy, but also try monoclonal antibodies against inflammatory cytokines, like Humira and Actemra, and also protectively dose them with antibiotics in case the immunosuppression creates susceptibility to opportunistic secondary infections. Avoid the hardcore anticoagulants like Heparin and tPA as much as possible unless absolutely necessary; you don't want to trigger bleeds in these injured tissues, but you may not have a choice.

The virus is mostly gone by the time the patient is 8 days post-symptomatic. Antivirals are useless by that point and may do more harm than good. Ivermectin, HCQ, Kaletra, and Remdesivir are all basically useless by that point. Ivermectin may have some immunomodulatory/redox modulation properties that the others don't have, but it seems too subtle to be of much benefit.

The ideal time to take antivirals is actually immediately after suspected exposure, continuing until symptoms appear and discontinuing at around day 7/8. The controversy about what antivirals to dose people with past day 8 is basically pointless bickering that does absolutely nothing for the patients. The pro-antiviral and anti-antiviral sides are both caught up on a red herring. They should really be talking about immunomodulatory drugs and antioxidants.

I should add, the first phase of treatment would also include non-invasive ventilation.
 
Thank you! I've heard a C-PAP also helps. Is that correct?
In their standard configuration, not really. They need some tweaks for effectiveness:


CPAP delivers a constant flow of oxygen at a prescribed pressure, measured in cmH20, which remains constant during inspiration and expiration. Intrinsic positive end expiratory pressure is the residual volume preventing collapse of the alveoli normally measuring around 2.5–3 cmH2O.5 CPAP is usually commenced at a higher level than normal intrinsic pressure around 5cmH2O. For most patients with T1RF, it is secondary to conditions which either collapse the alveolar or widen the gap between the alveolar and the blood vessels that surround them thereby reducing gaseous exchange. The application of Positive End Expiratory Pressure (PEEP) assists in maintaining the patient's airway pressure prevents alveolar collapse, in turn increasing lung volumes and distends them to reduce the distance between the alveolar and the blood vessels to improve gaseous exchange.5 , 7 , 14 In severe COVID-19, initial CPAP settings have been suggested 10 cmH2O and 60% oxygen.15

For CPAP to be effective, a sealed system is required, through application of a tight-fitting mask or a hood.5 , 6 Both methods for establishing a sealed system have benefits and disadvantages. With a face mask, the tight fit means patients may experience pressure damage to the nasal bridge. Newer types of facemask are available with high-volume low-pressure seals which reduce the pressure needed to create the seal when applied correctly, but with rapidly increasing numbers of patients needing CPAP, these may be difficult to acquire. An ill-fitting mask leads to significant leaks, resulting in poor inflation of the lungs, with dry oxygen/air leaking round a mask likely to lead to irritation, abrasions, and oedema of the cornea and conjunctiva. The second method, a CPAP hood, requires the patient's head to be fully enclosed with a secure seal around the neck and the hood can be supported by straps under the armpits.16 While such hoods reduce the risk of facial pressure sores, when straps are used, they can cause discomfort, pain and potentially with prolonged use, pressure sores. It also has to be noted that for many patients the noise generated from the high flow required impedes communication with Healthcare staff and for some, causes claustrophobia which is counterproductive in terms of recovery.5 , 6 A potential complication is that gasping breathing, and reduced compliance of the lungs can lead to air being swallowed, which if not addressed will lead to gastric distention and vomiting, with a risk of aspiration of gastric contents. As with COVID-19 type diseases, patients patient's lungs are less compliant, the risk of developing barotrauma and pneumothorax must be recognised and observations regularly taken and in the light of the rapid deterioration that occurs with COVID-19 urgent, early intervention is essential.17 If positive pressure ventilation is continued where there is an undrained pneumothorax, it can lead to a tension pneumothorax and potentially cause cardiac arrest.17

Or you could just get the safe and effective vaccines..........just a thought
This is what happens to your heart if a vaccine technician injecting you with a COVID-19 mRNA vaccine hits a blood vessel:


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It's not a hypothetical exercise. We have proof these vaccines (actually barely-tested gene therapies) can cause myocarditis bad enough to require a heart transplant.




If you want to take that risk, that's on you.
 
It's easy to see why the vaccines are massacring sports players and athletes, do we have an explanation for why it also seems to hit presenters hard?

If I were to put on my tin foil hat for a moment I might think it is curious that the sedentary white collar left face less vaccine adversities than the more active blue collar right. It also makes it hard for any sort of populous uprising to take place or for soldiers to operate in a conflict. It's sort of like the movie crank but you have to keep your heart rate below a certain threshold. Bugman heaven.

If they can't even tell the public to get Vitamin D in them then they are not going to ever bother telling the public not to do any strenuous activity after they take their poison.
 
It's easy to see why the vaccines are massacring sports players and athletes, do we have an explanation for why it also seems to hit presenters hard?
Probably due to increased heart rate for both. Audiences induce adrenaline and an increased strain on your body's system.
If I were to put on my tin foil hat for a moment I might think it is curious that the sedentary white collar left face less vaccine adversities than the more active blue collar right. It also makes it hard for any sort of populous uprising to take place or for soldiers to operate in a conflict. It's sort of like the movie crank but you have to keep your heart rate below a certain threshold. Bugman heaven.
Well this does lead into my question from
Here's this weeks UK vaccine surveillance report, literally the same report as was published last week.


Lot's of pretty graphs and declarations regarding vaccine efficacy (spoiler they think they have some effect) but no actual hard data.

There's no reason for them to have stopped reporting as they're still collecting national testing data as well as hospitalisation and deaths as can be seen here


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Testing is down 80% from peak but deaths and hospitalisations are higher than the height of the Omicron peak in January. The UK is well into it's spring. Covid, like all respiratory viruses, is at least partially seasonal. The actual positivity rate, assuming that most cases are not being captured in the testing data but serious cases are still being identified in hospital, must be equivalent to the winter peak.

So what the fuck is going on?

We know from past reports that the boosted are up to 4 times more likely to catch Covid compared to the unvaxxed.

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The problem with the vaccines isn't that they don't work to stop infection it's that they enhance infection.

Covid is now a pretty mild illness but for a boosted 80 year old catching it over and over again because they're unable to derive proper immunity from being exposed to wild virus will eventually cause serious illness.

The good news is that if you stop taking these shitty products they eventually wear off

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Note that younger people who have lower rates of booster dose uptake have far higher rates of N-antibodies. This tells us that the vaccine effects in suppressing natural immunity is not permanent.

The bad news is that governments around the world seem determined to continue with rolling out 4th doses for the elderly and we don't know whether or not the vaccines effects are cumulative. If they are expect the death rate to go even higher.
While the "effects" of the vaxx may disappear with time in terms of natural immunity coming back, do we know if the damage also rolls back over time? The massing of spike proteins in reproductive areas, do those go away? Does the heart and blood vessel inflammation go away over time? Do we know? Yeah it's all well and good that bugmen may not be collapsing at their desks but that doesn't mean they aren't damaged by it and do we know if they damage is permanent or not?
 
Probably due to increased heart rate for both. Audiences induce adrenaline and an increased strain on your body's system.

Well this does lead into my question from

While the "effects" of the vaxx may disappear with time in terms of natural immunity coming back, do we know if the damage also rolls back over time? The massing of spike proteins in reproductive areas, do those go away? Does the heart and blood vessel inflammation go away over time? Do we know? Yeah it's all well and good that bugmen may not be collapsing at their desks but that doesn't mean they aren't damaged by it and do we know if they damage is permanent or not?
To take it a step further: Are the vaccinated now transhuman? If everyone on the planet was vaccinated then you might never see test results that match a 2019 human again.

We don't know how long the spikes stay in the system because (correct me if I a wrong) the best data we have is from Israel and they only tested people for something like up to two months after the shot and some of them still had the spikes in their lymph nodes.
 
To take it a step further: Are the vaccinated now transhuman? If everyone on the planet was vaccinated then you might never see test results that match a 2019 human again.

We don't know how long the spikes stay in the system because (correct me if I a wrong) the best data we have is from Israel and they only tested people for something like up to two months after the shot and some of them still had the spikes in their lymph nodes.
16 weeks.
 
Thank you! I've heard a C-PAP also helps. Is that correct?
They hekp with gigantic fucking fatcunts. Because fatcunts are being choked by the rolls of fat accumulating on their necks and chests.

They should be banned as a medical intervention completely, and we should be using money for medical resources better, on people who have not destroyed their bodies because they're too retarded or gluttunous to put down the fucking pizza.

Seriously, I mean it. Fuck fat people. Deny them care. This is the grave they chose and they dug it with their own knives and forks. Fuck 'em.
 
The death spiral of COVID-19 is basically down to one thing; the failure of endogenous antioxidant systems to break down ROS fast enough. If you can cut off ROS at the source by suppressing its production, or by enhancing endogenous antioxidant enzyme function to break down excess reactive oxygen species after they are produced, you can prevent the lipid peroxidation of late-stage COVID, in theory.

The so-called "Long COVID" may, in part, be a result of "redox reprogramming", or semi-permanent shifts to the balance of redox reactions in the body, leading to inflammatory responses that cause fatigue, reactive arthritis, et cetera. This is exactly what underpins Martin L. Pall's theory of "NO/ONOO- Disease" being responsible for ME/CFS.


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Endothelial NO production and function decline with age (225). Endothelial dysfunction is a hallmark of COVID-19 and is associated with impaired NO availability secondary to enhanced oxidative stress, an established risk factor for mortality in chronic, noncommunicable diseases (117). Many different processes contribute to promoting oxidative stress in COVID-19, but—importantly—the changes in oxidative poise provoked by infection with SARS-CoV-2 happen rapidly and can be of considerable magnitude; this leaves complex homeostatic systems (with interdependency for the same substrates) little opportunity to readjust. Greater viral loads elicit more pronounced oxidative stress more quickly, translating into greater vulnerability to perturbation of the RSI with a higher risk of failure.

The effects of oxidative stress on complex redox systems are not as simple as a yin-yang balance. Oxidative stress triggers a change in Redox Landscape (Box 3) rather than a linear shift of associations. The redox network itself as well as the shape and precision of redox communication change altogether. Thus, complex signaling interrelationships become challenged such that the shared redox language becomes “non-sensical,” with messages from remote organ systems becoming “difficult to interpret.” This would lead to the initiation of a positive feedback cycle, resulting in an “Oxidative Storm” rather than a “Cytokine Storm,” with eventual failure in redox communication—an oxidative stress-triggered “Redox Tsunami” at which stage the system would become unstable and collapse (Fig. 3).
 
Ok, how many dollars AstraZeneca used to bribe...I mean to spent to convince the guys of Health Canada to approve their latest prevention drug? If they didn't bribed, I guess they dropped a call telling "Nice house/car/family you have, it'll be sad if something bad happens..."

Canada on Thursday authorized British drugmaker AstraZeneca Plc's antibody-based therapy for preventing COVID-19 infections, giving itself another weapon against the disease as cases rise in the country.

Health Canada has cleared the drug — Evusheld — for use in individuals aged 12 years and older who are immunocompromised and unlikely to mount an adequate immune response to COVID-19 vaccination, or for whom COVID-19 vaccination is not recommended.

While vaccines rely on an intact immune system to develop targeted antibodies and infection-fighting cells, Evusheld contains the lab-made antibodies tixagevimab and cilgavimab, which are designed to linger in the body for months to contain the virus in case of an infection.
 
I haven't been on this thread in a while, because I was sick of thinking about this shit. But I need to duck my head in for a rant.

My corner of the world tried the Covid Zero thing. We locked down, banned travellers, mandated masks, closed schools, the whole nine yards. Everyone jumped on board the virtue signal train, and loved wearing their masks.

Omicron came along, and showed the folly of Covid Zero. It's been ripping through the population. But the government understands it's time to move on and live with it. They started lifting restrictions. But the public is angry and demanding they be put back. They were set to remove the mask mandate in schools, but gave in to pressure and extended it. Twice.

They let nursing homes make their own rules, so there are still severe limitations at some of them about visiting. Only two visitors, only with an appointment, only if you're vaccinated, only if you test at the door, only if you mask, etc. (The one I tried to set up a visit with demanded vaccine papers for the 5 year old grandchild.)

Now businesses are falling over themselves to announce they're "Covid Safer" and still making everyone wear masks. There's a local doctor who appointed herself the covid expert, and decided to undermine the government and public health by using social media to keep restrictions going:



When our mask mandate ended a couple weeks ago (for adults; schools kept them), it seemed like maybe a quarter to half of the public took them off. But the public pressure to put them back on is so strong, that I was the only one on the bus without a mask yesterday. Everyone is so afraid of being judged by these crazy people who are still avoiding covid like it's Ebola. They're all talking about it being a staffing crisis, but the "crisis" is entirely in the isolation requirements.


Are there other places this insane? Why do these people all want to keep living this way?

The Maritime provinces have had so much potential for over a hundred years. Rich in natural resources. Close to the US border and major shipping trade routes. But no, everything must flow to the rest of Canada. The Maritimes have been fucked for a long time and the primary cause is the ever present government handouts that have prevented them from breaking free. It's created intergenerational dependency on the government as a way of life. Why work for more than 4-6 months when you can go on the pogey for the rest of the year. If you want a real life example of what UBI would do then look no further than the Maritimes.

Then you have incredible concentration of provincial and federal government jobs across the Maritimes. All these public sector parasites convincing themselves they're serving the rest of Canada by pushing forward the mindless bureaucracy of the federal and provincial government organizations.

And that is why you have so many boot licking authoritarian pieces of shit in the Maritimes.
 
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The Martime provinces have had so much potential for over a hundred years. Rich in natural resources. Close to the US border and major shipping trade routes. But no, everything must flow to the rest of Canada. The Martimes have been fucked for a long time and the primary cause is the ever present government handouts that have prevented them from breaking free. It's created intergenerational dependency on the government as a way of life. Why work for more than 4-6 months when you can go on the pogey for the rest of the year. If you want a real life example of what UBI would do then look no further than the Maritimes.

Then you have incredible concentration of provincial and federal government jobs across the Maritimes. All these public sector parasites convincing themselves they're serving the rest of Canada by pushing forward the mindless bureaucracy of the federal and provincial government organizations.

And that is why you have so many boot licking authoritarian pieces of shit in the Maritimes.
I just have to say here in Alberta I have been around the Maritimers who left over the last 25 years and they are delightful. Hard-working, cheerful, loyal and fun to be around, often pretty based.

They all loved their hometowns and preferred them (who wouldn’t, it’s beautiful there) but felt they had to go where they could make money and raise their families.

I am assuming we got the best of them. A bunch went back after the last crash in 2014 but many stayed.

My Cape Breton neighbors HATED the lockdowns and were either fighting with or ignoring their covidian families back home.
 
@Drain Todger
Any thoughts on the "Watch the Water" interview?
It's mostly nonsense.

SARS-CoV-2 has protein motifs that do, in fact, align with snake venom sequences, but the pathophysiological significance of this is not fully understood. Some researchers thought that nicotine might be protective against COVID-19 (which would explain why smokers seem to be affected by COVID-19 less often), but it's also possible that the nitric oxide in cigarette smoke is acting as a form of pulsed nitric oxide therapy, which confuses the issue.


This in silico study identified a potential interaction between SARS-CoV-2 and nAChRs, which could result in dysregulation of the cholinergic anti-inflammatory pathway and could adversely affect immune homeostasis in COVID-19. These findings have potential therapeutic implications since cholinergic agonists could protect and restore the function of nAChRs. Nicotine, varenicline, and galantamine—examples of FDA-approved cholinergic agonists for various pathologies—are proposed as therapeutic interventions for COVID-19, targeting the NCS. Since these proposals are based on theoretical models, further in vitro and in vivo studies are needed to explore these pathophysiological mechanisms.


Although these results are observational and cannot testify for a causal relationship, they provide elements for further discussion about cholinergic system manipulation in COVID-19. While clinical trials investigating the efficacy of vagus nerve stimulation or nicotine administration in COVID-19 for cholinergic anti-inflammatory pathway activation are ongoing, the impact of the expression of the dominant negative duplicate CHRFAM7A has never been considered. Yet, this duplicate has been implicated for explaining the previous failures of pharmacological α7 nicotinic receptor agonists in neurocognitive diseases, while murine studies were clearly encouraging24. Knowing that trials are underway to evaluate the usefulness of nicotine on the risk of developing a SARS-CoV-2 infection and severe COVID-19, it seems critical to address the influence of the dominant negative duplicate CHRFAM7A expression on the nicotine response.

The rest is nonsense. No, there's no way that I know of that this could have arisen from recombination in a snake. If those protein motifs are in SARS-CoV-2, some nutcase bioweapon engineer probably put them there by hand.

No, it's not snake venom in water. The CDC were doing PCR tests on wastewater because SARS can become wastewater-borne because it can infect the epithelium of the GI tract (this is also the logic behind the ridiculous-seeming "anal swabs"; COVID-19 may have oral-fecal transmission as well as aerosol transmission). That is to say, people who are infected with COVID-19 actually shit out measurable quantities of the virus that can be detected in sewage.

The stuff about "watching the water" is straight-up well poisoning bullshit. In fact, Jikky called it out as such on Twitter and was served a suspension over it.


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It's mostly nonsense.

SARS-CoV-2 has protein motifs that do, in fact, align with snake venom sequences, but the pathophysiological significance of this is not fully understood. Some researchers thought that nicotine might be protective against COVID-19 (which would explain why smokers seem to be affected by COVID-19 less often), but it's also possible that the nitric oxide in cigarette smoke is acting as a form of pulsed nitric oxide therapy, which confuses the issue.







The rest is nonsense. No, there's no way that I know of that this could have arisen from recombination in a snake. If those protein motifs are in SARS-CoV-2, some nutcase bioweapon engineer probably put them there by hand.

No, it's not snake venom in water. The CDC were doing PCR tests on wastewater because SARS can become wastewater-borne because it can infect the epithelium of the GI tract (this is also the logic behind the ridiculous-seeming "anal swabs"; COVID-19 may have oral-fecal transmission as well as aerosol transmission). That is to say, people who are infected with COVID-19 actually shit out measurable quantities of the virus that can be detected in sewage.

The stuff about "watching the water" is straight-up well poisoning bullshit. In fact, Jikky called it out as such on Twitter and was served a suspension over it.


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Even Alex Jones was not impressed by this, except he too, recognized if anything it would be some crazed bioengineer deciding snake venom proteins should be inserted into a virus... you know, for funzies.

Otherwise dumping it into water would just be too impractical. Having a virus create that protein as a weapon has some potential. One would hope that's not the case, but given what we know of human nature, it wouldn't be shocking that someone would try that.
 
It's happening in Philadelphia too. We're being advised to mask indoors again. But fuck that. No mandate? No mask.

Just let it end already. I'm not wearing masks for the rest of my life.
We are Americans. Since when does a mandate mean shit?

The "protect the NHS" mantra is even more fucking absurd when you look at the fact the Government set up the "Nightingale Hospitals" (they were called something else in Scotland, I forget the name) with the rows upon rows upon rows of cubicles, complete with ventilators, so they could intubate and eventually kill people.

These were barely ever utilized and have become synonymous with the spastic, over the top, histrionic reaction to this all.


Simply put: the retards in charge fell for the lie that this was literally airborneebolaarsecanceraids, and that everyone who got it was going to fucking croak. And even then, they didn't really buy it because TPTB were going about as normal. Fucks sake. The First Fuhrer of Scotland was attending a wake (if things were so deadly, why did she go?) And the blonde retard running the UK, who had allegedly been at deaths door just a month back was socialising with colleagues. Even one of the cunts in charge and who helped write the rules broke them herself and has now been issued with a fine by the Met.


If things were do deadly, the matter so grave, then they would have followed their rules but they didn't.

Only spastics like Grant still buy in because he hates his job and wants another shut down. He earns less than a crew member at Maccies- seriously, that's by his own admission, it's on his Twatter feed if you look under tweets and replies- and is just gagging to be laid off and sucking niccies titties for furlough because at least he won't have to debase himself for less money than someone making big Macs gets.
The biggest exclamation point in this whole scheme is people actually believing a Fed government agency isn’t a corrupt cesspool of information designed to please political donors.

The CDC is a federal agency, therefore, it’s unnecessary and only serves to keep people under the thrall of Big Daddy.
 
It's happening in Philadelphia too. We're being advised to mask indoors again. But fuck that. No mandate? No mask.

Just let it end already. I'm not wearing masks for the rest of my life.
It ends when you grow some balls, you pussy. Stop wearing them you fucking cuck. Christafickinglive. You're in the USA. I am in the UK. you're waiting to be given permission to stop wearing a maskiewaskie. I have never won one.

You live in a state where gun access is fairly easy to do. I live in a country where it is reviled. And yet I'm the one who has never worn a mask.


Grow a pair of nuts.
 
Lockdowns have been over for a year, as you keep pointing out. If you've not started bothering to lose it then you never will.

Alcohol contains loads of empty calories. You should get help for your drink problem. An Irish/Scottish mutt with a drink issue is a gigantic fucking cliche by the way. How pathetically trite.

I didn't gain weight. I lost. A lot. Being stripped of the right to work and earn and living on poverty does that. And being poor is no excuse to pack on the pounds either.

Obesity is what takes coof from a nothing to potentially deadly. Because being fat is inherently unhealthy. It is fundamentally hypocritical of you, a fattie, demanding others protect you by being vaccinated when you are a risk to NHS staff and their backs.

Until you are a healthy weight and not an alcoholic you should shut the fuck up and focus on sorting your shit out. Your flailing on Twitter and trying to get asspats on there because it's not working as you intended on here is hilarious.

Look man, keep away from my booze, ok?
 
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